Death of supercars
Discussion
Clarkson was right - for the wrong reason - Astons and others are doomed not by the green lobby, not by the price of petrol, but by the diabolical state of our roads.
Audit Commission in Scotland has just confirmed what we all know - a third of our road system up here is b---ed and in dire need of repair at at a cost of several billion we don't have - since it is needed for bankers bonusses, half built tram systems and more essential public services like employing people to show fat people how to use a trampoline to lose weight.Has the world gone mad or is it just me ?
Britain seems to have turned into Romania over night ! There is no way I am going to get any pleasure bumping my pride and joy over the farm tracks that pass for A roads. All because local authorities have been stealing money from the roads budget for years for projects nobody who actually finances these idiots wants and this winter has revealed decades of underspending .
I have just about got used to the idea of working for 6 months of the year to finance the less fortunate in society (and accepted that this does mean financing
a few work shy layabouts in tracksuits ), but there does come a point when enough is enough . The evening paper also carried the news that our Council - already warned for being £1.3bn in debt is to borrow £300k it does not have to put in cameras on our bus lanes to raise more taxes .Meanwhile the motorist that pays for all these fools is forced to drive over a road system only a 4x4 should contemplate - the death of the super car ?
Sorry this is a bit of a rant but I just need to know there are others out there that think it's the world that has gone mad , share my concern for future enjoyment of driving on UK roads , and possibly can advise on which country has smooth roads , below 50% tax and some sunshine - I have got to get out of here !
Audit Commission in Scotland has just confirmed what we all know - a third of our road system up here is b---ed and in dire need of repair at at a cost of several billion we don't have - since it is needed for bankers bonusses, half built tram systems and more essential public services like employing people to show fat people how to use a trampoline to lose weight.Has the world gone mad or is it just me ?
Britain seems to have turned into Romania over night ! There is no way I am going to get any pleasure bumping my pride and joy over the farm tracks that pass for A roads. All because local authorities have been stealing money from the roads budget for years for projects nobody who actually finances these idiots wants and this winter has revealed decades of underspending .
I have just about got used to the idea of working for 6 months of the year to finance the less fortunate in society (and accepted that this does mean financing
a few work shy layabouts in tracksuits ), but there does come a point when enough is enough . The evening paper also carried the news that our Council - already warned for being £1.3bn in debt is to borrow £300k it does not have to put in cameras on our bus lanes to raise more taxes .Meanwhile the motorist that pays for all these fools is forced to drive over a road system only a 4x4 should contemplate - the death of the super car ?
Sorry this is a bit of a rant but I just need to know there are others out there that think it's the world that has gone mad , share my concern for future enjoyment of driving on UK roads , and possibly can advise on which country has smooth roads , below 50% tax and some sunshine - I have got to get out of here !
There are certain (bicycle-using socialists in local government) who see bad roads as self-enforcing speed limits.
Certainly if the money spent on unused cycle lanes, unused buses, speed cameras, traffic-calming bulls
t and the PR/advertising spent on same had been spent on the roads they'd be jolly fine indeed.
Certainly if the money spent on unused cycle lanes, unused buses, speed cameras, traffic-calming bulls
t and the PR/advertising spent on same had been spent on the roads they'd be jolly fine indeed.You think it's bad where you are, well I live on the border of Surrey and Hampshire and those two are regularly rated No 1 and 2 respectively in the league table for counties with most potholes in the country. It gets better - apparently huge chunks of the money that should be going into road maintenance are now being diverted to cover motorist claims for damage due to potholes !
I will give my vote to France for smooth roads but also add Spain. A journey from my home to there is marred only by the section from here to the channel tunnel.
I will give my vote to France for smooth roads but also add Spain. A journey from my home to there is marred only by the section from here to the channel tunnel.
RichB said:
hartley said:
which country has smooth roads , below 50% tax and some sunshine - I have got to get out of here !
Don't know about 50% tax rate but try France for smooth roads and sunshine.If you speak at least some French - do it! Uncrowded roads, drivers who largely stick to the speed limits (= easy to overtake), great food and wine, friendly people (outside Paris!), and did I mention sunshine?!
I love this. Usually all the talk in my office and a normal PH thread is of the dreaded rich, evil bankers, ghastly Tories, Robin hood taxes etc. Pop into the Aston forum though and its bloody socialist local government types, the bone idle, slip off to France old boy, bleedin 50% taxes and MONACO!
I'd like to imagine you are all sitting in wing backed chairs smoking expensive Turkish tobacco in Ivory pipes, sipping on your fifth glass of aged malt and thinking about getting your man to clear the ruffians off the porch. Tickles me.
I'd like to imagine you are all sitting in wing backed chairs smoking expensive Turkish tobacco in Ivory pipes, sipping on your fifth glass of aged malt and thinking about getting your man to clear the ruffians off the porch. Tickles me.
cathalm said:
I love this. Usually all the talk in my office and a normal PH thread is of the dreaded rich, evil bankers, ghastly Tories, Robin hood taxes etc. Pop into the Aston forum though and its bloody socialist local government types, the bone idle, slip off to France old boy, bleedin 50% taxes and MONACO!
I'd like to imagine you are all sitting in wing backed chairs smoking expensive Turkish tobacco in Ivory pipes, sipping on your fifth glass of aged malt and thinking about getting your man to clear the ruffians off the porch. Tickles me.
I'm heading off from the office asap tomorrow night in my V8V to get to VIP Rooms, Paris to party the night away I'd like to imagine you are all sitting in wing backed chairs smoking expensive Turkish tobacco in Ivory pipes, sipping on your fifth glass of aged malt and thinking about getting your man to clear the ruffians off the porch. Tickles me.
cathalm said:
I love this. Usually all the talk in my office and a normal PH thread is of the dreaded rich, evil bankers, ghastly Tories, Robin hood taxes etc. Pop into the Aston forum though and its bloody socialist local government types, the bone idle, slip off to France old boy, bleedin 50% taxes and MONACO!
I'd like to imagine you are all sitting in wing backed chairs smoking expensive Turkish tobacco in Ivory pipes, sipping on your fifth glass of aged malt and thinking about getting your man to clear the ruffians off the porch. Tickles me.
I'd like to imagine you are all sitting in wing backed chairs smoking expensive Turkish tobacco in Ivory pipes, sipping on your fifth glass of aged malt and thinking about getting your man to clear the ruffians off the porch. Tickles me.
Yes I will be taking a small glass of malt later this evening.
"I'd like to imagine you are all sitting in wing backed chairs (check) smoking expensive Turkish tobacco in Ivory pipes cheap Marlboro, sipping on your fifth second glass of aged malt quality local red and thinking about getting your man wife to clear the ruffians (if there were any) off the porch terrace."
cathalm said:
I love this. Usually all the talk in my office and a normal PH thread is of the dreaded rich, evil bankers, ghastly Tories, Robin hood taxes etc. Pop into the Aston forum though and its bloody socialist local government types, the bone idle, slip off to France old boy, bleedin 50% taxes and MONACO!
I'd like to imagine you are all sitting in wing backed chairs smoking expensive Turkish tobacco in Ivory pipes, sipping on your fifth glass of aged malt and thinking about getting your man to clear the ruffians off the porch. Tickles me.
You badly need to change your office - I assume you are state funded ? - (although I have some sympathy on bankers .)I'd like to imagine you are all sitting in wing backed chairs smoking expensive Turkish tobacco in Ivory pipes, sipping on your fifth glass of aged malt and thinking about getting your man to clear the ruffians off the porch. Tickles me.
The majority of Aston Owners probably fall somewhere between your mental image of the tweed clad landed gentry and my mental image of your office - corduroy clad Guardian readers with ties outside their sweaters who knit there own yoghurt and don't realise their views on almost everything are a by product of middle class prosperity .(They might have a point on the bankers though )
Anyway we will all be in corduroy shortly driving 4x4's ( hybred of course ) across the minefields that used to be our road system , all Astons having been nationalised and turned over to the less fortunate who were cruelly denied Aston ownership due to the fact that their drinking habits did not allow them enough time to work and earn the purchase price.
In the meantime I am off to France where the roads are smooth and nobody takes politicians seriously .Le Mans actually .;);)
hartley said:
In the meantime I am off to France where the roads are smooth and nobody takes politicians seriously .Le Mans actually .;);)
Im with you on that one.I work hard for my money. 84 hrs a week and six months of the year away from my family. Ill be buggerd if some "tree hugging, Lental eating" halfwit will tell me what to spend it on.
Right, now were are the keys to the Aston? Im off to my club
Edited by mblade123 on Thursday 17th February 23:24
Shmee said:
MONACO!
Have you ever been?Our successive govts of any colour can do what they're doing because this country still has an attractive blend. Particularly for those old enough to be paying a good slug of tax!
Ignore the mega wealthy, as inconveniences like tax don't count. But I've been fortunate enough to work in many countries, often not at my expense (mostly), and as I did so, and got older, I realised that this country is still very hard to beat as a life proposition.
Suggest me an alternative and I will pretty much guaranteee a reason why it should be reconsidered (starting with France, it's full of the French!).
It won't always be thus of course. But will probably be so for as long as I can be bothered
Not state funded, but full to the rafters with people who conduct marketing and pr, use terms like "blue sky thinking" and "satisfaction quotient" and describe themselves as metro.
I have heard two them say that Fidel Castro was a man that ran a beer company and decry Stalin by saying "well Germans are ambitious, that's why we started the war after all".
When I asked one of them do something the other day I was asked "and what are your success metrics for this?". Naturally I should have taken the stick out of the cupboard and given him a damn good thrashing.
Anyway, Astons are nice aren't they....
I have heard two them say that Fidel Castro was a man that ran a beer company and decry Stalin by saying "well Germans are ambitious, that's why we started the war after all".
When I asked one of them do something the other day I was asked "and what are your success metrics for this?". Naturally I should have taken the stick out of the cupboard and given him a damn good thrashing.
Anyway, Astons are nice aren't they....
cathalm said:
Not state funded, but full to the rafters with people who conduct marketing and pr, use terms like "blue sky thinking" and "satisfaction quotient" and describe themselves as metro.
I have heard two them say that Fidel Castro was a man that ran a beer company and decry Stalin by saying "well Germans are ambitious, that's why we started the war after all".
When I asked one of them do something the other day I was asked "and what are your success metrics for this?". Naturally I should have taken the stick out of the cupboard and given him a damn good thrashing.
Anyway, Astons are nice aren't they....
Oh dear. I had hoped old Blighty might still be carrying the flag for proper English vocabulary and parts of speech. Seems like my hopes may be dashed. Please tell me you're not now using "incent" as a verb over there are you? I have heard two them say that Fidel Castro was a man that ran a beer company and decry Stalin by saying "well Germans are ambitious, that's why we started the war after all".
When I asked one of them do something the other day I was asked "and what are your success metrics for this?". Naturally I should have taken the stick out of the cupboard and given him a damn good thrashing.
Anyway, Astons are nice aren't they....
cathalm said:
Not state funded, but full to the rafters with people who conduct marketing and pr, use terms like "blue sky thinking" and "satisfaction quotient" and describe themselves as metro.
I have heard two them say that Fidel Castro was a man that ran a beer company and decry Stalin by saying "well Germans are ambitious, that's why we started the war after all".
When I asked one of them do something the other day I was asked "and what are your success metrics for this?". Naturally I should have taken the stick out of the cupboard and given him a damn good thrashing.
Anyway, Astons are nice aren't they....
Sounds American business speak - California not New York - no potholes there to worry about- too much money leads to same values as public sector - same issue too much easy money leads to unreal life viewI have heard two them say that Fidel Castro was a man that ran a beer company and decry Stalin by saying "well Germans are ambitious, that's why we started the war after all".
When I asked one of them do something the other day I was asked "and what are your success metrics for this?". Naturally I should have taken the stick out of the cupboard and given him a damn good thrashing.
Anyway, Astons are nice aren't they....
Monaco - Sounds nice but is it not so small you end up in Italy or France if you want a drive. Don' t you burn all your cash buying a house ? Six months in France and six months in Perthshire/Edinburgh sounds interesting
People who rave about Monaco usually haven't spent v long there. Out of season it's a shocker, in season simply full of wannabes and old rich men with young Russian hookers. Oh and Russian oligarchs (nice bunch!). And a small studio with cost you €1m.
And before you shoot me down in flames I have a house in the adjacent bay. Trust me (1) there are far nicer tax havens and (2) far, far better places in France (or South of France)
And before you shoot me down in flames I have a house in the adjacent bay. Trust me (1) there are far nicer tax havens and (2) far, far better places in France (or South of France)
Edited by fulham911club on Saturday 19th February 16:53
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