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Gregor Marshall said:
Jelly might not be evertone's taste but don't act like children about the fact some Astons are just sodding lard-arse diet versions of the last model. When is the next Aston not based on the Jag/Ford chassis due??
And which of the current Astons are based on a Jag/Ford chassis? 
Gregor Marshall said:
I dont quite see why everyone is so sensitinve to what Jelly is saying other than the fact he is pointing out the negatives in the current Aston range??
Jelly might not be evertone's taste but don't act like children about the fact some Astons are just sodding lard-arse diet versions of the last model. When is the next Aston not based on the Jag/Ford chassis due??
Jeez, the cars look fantastic and I wish my late father was still around to have raced what is around now compared to the V8 bricks and the DB4s; the only car that was worth it's salt back in the '80s was the DBR4 GP car and even that was 2 years late in it's time!!
If you read the forum over a given period of time, you would start to see that it's Members are constantly analysing, learning about and critiqueing the cars. From daft settings to overpriced parts, I think almost every area has been covered and they are now being recycled as new Members come on board and give differing viewpoints from different angles.Jelly might not be evertone's taste but don't act like children about the fact some Astons are just sodding lard-arse diet versions of the last model. When is the next Aston not based on the Jag/Ford chassis due??
Jeez, the cars look fantastic and I wish my late father was still around to have raced what is around now compared to the V8 bricks and the DB4s; the only car that was worth it's salt back in the '80s was the DBR4 GP car and even that was 2 years late in it's time!!
Many Members agree with you that the new Virage could be perceived as a "sodding lard-arse diet version" of the DB9 but they justify their points by analysing the Adaptive Damping, Carbon Ceramic Brakes, B&O System, Bodywork etc to both qualify and quantify their points. This is without doubt a Learning Forum.
The majority of people rejected Jellison's proposal. Many of these people were clever, mechanically minded people who have an in-depth knowledge of AMs, Lotus, TVRs etc. They refused to back an untested idea. Just as they have with other untested ideas.
Last week I learnt of the existence of a fella who raced AMs 30 years ago. I googled him and learnt a bit more. Interesting chap, your father
Gregor Marshall said:
I dont quite see why everyone is so sensitinve to what Jelly is saying other than the fact he is pointing out the negatives in the current Aston range??
Jelly might not be evertone's taste but don't act like children about the fact some Astons are just sodding lard-arse diet versions of the last model. When is the next Aston not based on the Jag/Ford chassis due??
Jeez, the cars look fantastic and I wish my late father was still around to have raced what is around now compared to the V8 bricks and the DB4s; the only car that was worth it's salt back in the '80s was the DBR4 GP car and even that was 2 years late in it's time!!
Gregor,Jelly might not be evertone's taste but don't act like children about the fact some Astons are just sodding lard-arse diet versions of the last model. When is the next Aston not based on the Jag/Ford chassis due??
Jeez, the cars look fantastic and I wish my late father was still around to have raced what is around now compared to the V8 bricks and the DB4s; the only car that was worth it's salt back in the '80s was the DBR4 GP car and even that was 2 years late in it's time!!
I'm sorry about the loss of your father. But if you pop up on here and throw insults around don't expect much from anyone. Insulting folks is the first refuge of the dullard and the internet keyboard warrior. And if you read the thread from the top you'll see the context. You accuse folks of being "so sensitive" and yet you appear somewhat, well, sensitive yourself. I did not know of your father because I have very little interest in motorsport.
Back on topic - still waiting for someone from RSC to take me up on my offer of a donation to charity if they will answer the questions from Mike on the testing done on this engine modification.
Gregor Marshall said:
I dont quite see why everyone is so sensitinve to what Jelly is saying other than the fact he is pointing out the negatives in the current Aston range??
Jelly might not be evertone's taste but don't act like children about the fact some Astons are just sodding lard-arse diet versions of the last model. When is the next Aston not based on the Jag/Ford chassis due??
As a long time reader but new contributor to this forum, but a long time regular poster in other forums, I can tell you from my own recent experience that the people you are accusing of being sensitive and childish are anything but. In fact it is rare to see any forum with members who are so welcoming of new contributors or receptive to discussion of the relative merits of their favoured brand, when conducted in an intelligent, informed, mature manner.Jelly might not be evertone's taste but don't act like children about the fact some Astons are just sodding lard-arse diet versions of the last model. When is the next Aston not based on the Jag/Ford chassis due??
At the end of the day, a forum is just a social group like any other and it truly amazes me that the OP came into this social group with some robust opinions and was then surprised that he received a similarly robust response.
You more than anyone else should understand the passion that some people have for their cars and I think the focus here should be less on the supposed sensitivity of the forum members than on the insensitivity with which the OP expressed his opinion. For the record I am an Aston owner and my passion for cars comes second only to my family. Would the OP walk into a party at which he knew no one, loudly announce that everyone's wives could do with losing a few pounds and then be surprised to leave with a limp (even if some of them might quietly agree with him
)?Also, in the interests of accuracy, Gaydon Astons do not use a Jag or Ford chassis. They use a platform designated V/H which was developed specifically to be used across the Aston range.
/rant
Thank you Jellison for kicking off such a funny discussion!
Has amused me lots! I own an Aston, would not really mod it (but then I wouldn't mod a ford or anything cos it just doesn't interest me!)
Great pub style banter. Some facts, some bull, some chest puffing, some insults! All ended with an insult just like it probably would do in a pub! :-)
Has amused me lots! I own an Aston, would not really mod it (but then I wouldn't mod a ford or anything cos it just doesn't interest me!)
Great pub style banter. Some facts, some bull, some chest puffing, some insults! All ended with an insult just like it probably would do in a pub! :-)
I read the whole thread and have come to the conclusion that "Jellison" simply doesn't seem to know what he is talking about. More interestingly to me I don't see the motivation behind posting this at all.
By the way, I drive a Datsun GTR and I don't appreciate the ignorant comments regarding this automotive benchmark
By the way, I drive a Datsun GTR and I don't appreciate the ignorant comments regarding this automotive benchmark
christer said:
By the way, I drive a Datsun GTR and I don't appreciate the ignorant comments regarding this automotive benchmark
And your profile says you also have a GT3. There's a parking space in my "lottery win" garage for one of those The Datsun GTR looks like a fine piece of engineering. I'd love a bash in one. I had a 120Y many years ago so I completely understand the brand values
Colesie said:
.... For the record I am an Aston owner and my passion for cars comes second only to my family. Would the OP walk into a party at which he knew no one, loudly announce that everyone's wives could do with losing a few pounds and then be surprised to leave with a limp (even if some of them might quietly agree with him )?
/rant
Class analogy Colesie )?/rant
I concur as a veteran of Merc, BMW and especially motorbike forums (where only a brave person would tread!) I have found this forum to be the most informative and civilised by far. The other thing for me is that some people who post (who presumably don't have an AM) compare nothing but numbers with Porsche etc, thus deleting in their heads the rest of the package you get with an Aston.jellison said:
Brakes are one thing I doubt the V8V will need, for a new /modern car that are some of the biggest I've seen and in std form don't have much to do / have an easy job, so plenty of room there (maybe maximum of a tad harder pad).
Sorry to join in late and drag up older posts....my 2p (for what its worth)The standard brakes are poor anywhere other than on the road.
I have seen several of these cars - even with cold air ducting and Brembo floating discs - get their fluid so hot that the pedal travels to the floor and the ABS locks out. One happened after 5 laps of a circuit, the other when a novice driver ignored the pedal going soft. These cars both weighed in at around 1300kgs.
Brakes are the first thing to modify and improve, long before trying to wring the engines neck.
Personally, if I had the money (which I dont!) it would be being spent with Mike at BR.
VLN spec engine with flywheel, clutch and exhaust.
I am assuming the charged engine has not been rebuilt? There is an incredible difference between the standard and a properly balanced V8V. Add this to the BR list and the car would be transformed but IMO not spoilt.
Colesie said:
And your profile says you also have a GT3. There's a parking space in my "lottery win" garage for one of those
The Datsun GTR looks like a fine piece of engineering. I'd love a bash in one. I had a 120Y many years ago so I completely understand the brand values
You *should* have a bash in one. I wrote it off for being a Datsun, uninvolving and so on in the beginning. Then I decided to take a look and make up my own mind and here I am. The Datsun GTR looks like a fine piece of engineering. I'd love a bash in one. I had a 120Y many years ago so I completely understand the brand values
I should say I have never been a badge snob so I didn't have that to overcome as well
I should update my profile - I sold the GT3 last year with my beloved tuned 964 also gone, missed out on a Gallardo that was perfect for me by two days and then after several other short ownerships incl SLK55AMG etc I finally settled down with a Datsun.....who would have thought?
I would like a V12V a little further down the depreciation curve, Aston's are beautiful but the V8V would be a little tame for me personally.
christer said:
I would like a V12V a little further down the depreciation curve..
I sure hope you is a patient man. It ain't gonna happen in no hurry, blood.Sorry, been watching The Wire.
Georgeous, with a bit of heat you should not experience those symptoms. I'm pretty sure you don't have CCBs ??
Quinny said:
I always turn the DCS off.... Can't see the need for it...
There is a reason for it Mr Q.It will primarily ensure that, when going round bends at speed, you don't drop your bacon butty.
Or your Pizza.
Or your f
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Jockman said:
Georgeous, with a bit of heat you should not experience those symptoms. I'm pretty sure you don't have CCBs ??
Sadly not, just the plain steel ones. I think it is because it is left for quite long periods of time, so sometimes the discs are a bit rusty at first. I think it is just before they are fully warmed up, usually when I'm pootling around town (which is irritating because everyone looks when I need to stop).
Jock - Or should that be Cock.
"The majority of people rejected Jellison's proposal. Many of these people were clever, mechanically minded people who have an in-depth knowledge of AMs, Lotus, TVRs etc. They refused to back an untested idea. Just as they have with other untested ideas."
This was posted as a heads up for any Aston owners that might not be afraid to step out of the tightly constained box that having a "modern" Aston seem to put most of you in.
When you say knowledge of AMs, Lotus, TVR. I presume you have stripped down many of these brands and rebuilt them - if so (yep you might know something), if you have just taken your car to a dealer for work it will be doubtful you really know much other than gather it off of the Interweb!!!!!
"The majority of people rejected Jellison's proposal. Many of these people were clever, mechanically minded people who have an in-depth knowledge of AMs, Lotus, TVRs etc. They refused to back an untested idea. Just as they have with other untested ideas."
This was posted as a heads up for any Aston owners that might not be afraid to step out of the tightly constained box that having a "modern" Aston seem to put most of you in.
When you say knowledge of AMs, Lotus, TVR. I presume you have stripped down many of these brands and rebuilt them - if so (yep you might know something), if you have just taken your car to a dealer for work it will be doubtful you really know much other than gather it off of the Interweb!!!!!
jellison said:
This was posted as a heads up for any Aston owners that might not be afraid to step out of the tightly constained box that having a "modern" Aston seem to put most of you in.
When you say knowledge of AMs, Lotus, TVR. I presume you have stripped down many of these brands and rebuilt them - if so (yep you might know something), if you have just taken your car to a dealer for work it will be doubtful you really know much other than gather it off of the Interweb!!!!!
Mr Jellison, because Members may reject your idea does not mean that they deserve to be ridiculed as myopic.When you say knowledge of AMs, Lotus, TVR. I presume you have stripped down many of these brands and rebuilt them - if so (yep you might know something), if you have just taken your car to a dealer for work it will be doubtful you really know much other than gather it off of the Interweb!!!!!
As for me personally, I do not include myself in the mechanically-minded group. My skills lie elsewhere. This is the primary reason that I have not questioned the mechanics behind your proposition.
C'mon Mr Jellison, 8 pages is not a long thread for you have checked on this before posting.
I like your new proposal, though - Cockman has a certain ring to it
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