Primary cat deletes - DVSA crackdown?
Discussion
ds666 said:
VanquishRider bringing facts to the discussion is quite important I would have though . Well armed with facts ( rather than opinions ) gives people a better understanding of what they can and can't do with the cat issue ( which is what this thread is about ) .
Are you feeling guilty about something Mr Horner ?
Thank you, and that is all I intended to do. Are you feeling guilty about something Mr Horner ?
It doesn't help when you have a high profile independent telling everyone it is fine. But it is so fine he soon deleted his Youtube video. People rely on such people to give a sensible, professional answer, not claiming the illegal route is fine.
Be well informed and make your own decision.
bullet7 said:
I take it you do not like Bamford Rose?
Very much respect the guys abilities and the business capabilities. Don't like his sales techniques or the videos that make out if you don't buy all his modifications your car will fall apart the next time you use it.
Original unmodified cars are more valuable than modified cars. I say this knowing full well that my modified car is worth less because of that fact.
Caslad said:
I am aware of case of the garage in Wakefield which was completely de-catting cars, I’m not aware of a case where someone has been successfully prosecuted for replacing the oem catalysts with an aftermarket system which still passes the emissions test at mot. I would be grateful if you could point me to such an example.
With the way insurance is going in this country, the bigger concern for me would be an insurer investigating in the event of a claim.An MOT tester might not be able to tell easily, but an insurer would be able to look, and if your car was found to be illegal I suspect you might struggle getting paid out.
Murph7355 said:
With the way insurance is going in this country, the bigger concern for me would be an insurer investigating in the event of a claim.
An MOT tester might not be able to tell easily, but an insurer would be able to look, and if your car was found to be illegal I suspect you might struggle getting paid out.
Never a good idea to hide information from any type of insurer. I’ve informed my insurer & they are fine with it. (The premium went up by about 20 quid)An MOT tester might not be able to tell easily, but an insurer would be able to look, and if your car was found to be illegal I suspect you might struggle getting paid out.
Good advice re insurance.
Going back to the ‘Should I, shouldn’t I?’ cat delete question, it seems that the only way to get relative peace of mind regarding this, is to have your plugs and coil packs regularly tested and periodically replaced. This over the years, will rack up a significant outlay at say 2k ish every time.
Coil packs on all my other cars are good to go for pretty much the lifetime of the car. Certainly well in excess of 100k miles and tbh,I’m yet to ever experience one failing yet. Good quality plugs too are outstandingly reliable these-days. So, recommended plug and pack changes on a regular basis to avoid ingestion worries it quite a commitment!!
Just food for thought….
Going back to the ‘Should I, shouldn’t I?’ cat delete question, it seems that the only way to get relative peace of mind regarding this, is to have your plugs and coil packs regularly tested and periodically replaced. This over the years, will rack up a significant outlay at say 2k ish every time.
Coil packs on all my other cars are good to go for pretty much the lifetime of the car. Certainly well in excess of 100k miles and tbh,I’m yet to ever experience one failing yet. Good quality plugs too are outstandingly reliable these-days. So, recommended plug and pack changes on a regular basis to avoid ingestion worries it quite a commitment!!
Just food for thought….
Lawts0908 said:
Good advice re insurance.
Going back to the ‘Should I, shouldn’t I?’ cat delete question, it seems that the only way to get relative peace of mind regarding this, is to have your plugs and coil packs regularly tested and periodically replaced. This over the years, will rack up a significant outlay at say 2k ish every time.
Coil packs on all my other cars are good to go for pretty much the lifetime of the car. Certainly well in excess of 100k miles and tbh,I’m yet to ever experience one failing yet. Good quality plugs too are outstandingly reliable these-days. So, recommended plug and pack changes on a regular basis to avoid ingestion worries it quite a commitment!!
Just food for thought….
Again, sensible servicing should always be carried out. But most (if not almost all) Aston V12 misfires are caused by fouling from failing Crankcase Ventilation Valves (PCV's) and the hoses that link them are perishing. How do I know this? Because the Vanquish Owners group tested every single coil that was taken off from a large number of V12 (VQ & DB9) and not one coil failed testing. Some were weaker than others. But none failed. Going back to the ‘Should I, shouldn’t I?’ cat delete question, it seems that the only way to get relative peace of mind regarding this, is to have your plugs and coil packs regularly tested and periodically replaced. This over the years, will rack up a significant outlay at say 2k ish every time.
Coil packs on all my other cars are good to go for pretty much the lifetime of the car. Certainly well in excess of 100k miles and tbh,I’m yet to ever experience one failing yet. Good quality plugs too are outstandingly reliable these-days. So, recommended plug and pack changes on a regular basis to avoid ingestion worries it quite a commitment!!
Just food for thought….
The PCV's and hoses have a hard life sitting in the middle of those V12's and many are now 20 years old or more so should be expected to die. So if changing plugs, change the PCV's while you are in there. It is simple to test the coils, or just change them for peace of mind. None of this is complicated to do, just requires a decent tool kit and some patience.
But a AM dealership is always going to sell you a full set of coils and plugs. Especially when they overcharge for the very same NGK plug because it comes out of a white box with AM on the side instead of an NGK one. If you know where to look or who to employ you can also get the coils for far less than AML charge. Employ the right independent and you will halve your costs and get a better service into the bargain.
Calinours said:
VanquishRider said:
Employ the right independent and you will halve your costs and get a better service into the bargain.
Any recommendations? 
For those of you old enough to realise I shamelessly plagiarised this
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dJmg-879j5o
(RIP Dick)
LTP said:
Calinours said:
VanquishRider said:
Employ the right independent and you will halve your costs and get a better service into the bargain.
Any recommendations? For those of you old enough to realise I shamelessly plagiarised this
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dJmg-879j5o
(RIP Dick)
Jon can confirm my spectrum-like inability to recognise a joke, now it seems I don’t even know when I’m inadvertently making one…..
VanquishRider said:
Calinours said:
Any recommendations?
Depends what work you want done? I'd recommend BR for some stuff.
V12Vanquish.com for others
Peter Hamilton
Chiltern Aston
AM Performance
Aston service London
There are others.
Aston Service London - is that the outfit owned by Desmond Smail? - I understand that another hugely respected guy - Peter Stratford (Aston London) is now semi or maybe now even fully retired.
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