The GT8! Carbon fibre bodied £200K 440BHP 7 Speed V8.
Discussion
Hi Rob,
Thanks for the kind words - yes C/Ls were on my 'must-have' list -
indeed! Thankfully as my Better Half is as much as a petrol head as I am (ex-GT3's - but now fully converted) there was no domestic strife involved in this one...She absolutely adored the car the first time she clapped eyes on it (with a firm 'NO' from me as was £260k originally 
)
Your note about the "winglets" is well made - the guys at Cheltenham tell me they have to remove them to get it on and off their transporter truck, so I've got no chance as we are well out in the sticks and the V12SM touches its under-splitter plastic 'tab' jobbies down on the odd occasion already...
yes - I would be v. Interested in joining the what's app group - so if Fil is watching plse drop me a line :-)
Best,
Andy
PS I checked my research on all the available specs and I think the Harwoods and Redline cars are different - the former has S/S and the latter Ti...
Thanks for the kind words - yes C/Ls were on my 'must-have' list -
indeed! Thankfully as my Better Half is as much as a petrol head as I am (ex-GT3's - but now fully converted) there was no domestic strife involved in this one...She absolutely adored the car the first time she clapped eyes on it (with a firm 'NO' from me as was £260k originally )Your note about the "winglets" is well made - the guys at Cheltenham tell me they have to remove them to get it on and off their transporter truck, so I've got no chance as we are well out in the sticks and the V12SM touches its under-splitter plastic 'tab' jobbies down on the odd occasion already...
yes - I would be v. Interested in joining the what's app group - so if Fil is watching plse drop me a line :-)
Best,
Andy
PS I checked my research on all the available specs and I think the Harwoods and Redline cars are different - the former has S/S and the latter Ti...
I wouldn't lose a moments sleep over that car... they're reduced it because it hasn't sold, it hasn't sold because its a s
t spec (not because it was too expensive). Meanwhile, the desirable specifications between £230-250k have been snapped up quickly (just look at all the ones to have gone through Romans... all lovely non-halo specs).
The ones hanging around and subsequently being reduced because they were bought for the wrong reasons by people who now need to sell them are either a) SS, b) low spec halo cars or c) weird spec (the Edinburgh car comes to mind).
t spec (not because it was too expensive). Meanwhile, the desirable specifications between £230-250k have been snapped up quickly (just look at all the ones to have gone through Romans... all lovely non-halo specs). The ones hanging around and subsequently being reduced because they were bought for the wrong reasons by people who now need to sell them are either a) SS, b) low spec halo cars or c) weird spec (the Edinburgh car comes to mind).
Yes I agree. I'm just hoping AML have learnt from the experience and won't just hand out the "specials" on a first come first serve basis; that way lies flippery
I take some comfort that a very high percentage of the U.K. bound AMRs are represented on this forum (or people we know who aren't on here); i.e. existing owners and AML enthusiasts. That's how it should be
I take some comfort that a very high percentage of the U.K. bound AMRs are represented on this forum (or people we know who aren't on here); i.e. existing owners and AML enthusiasts. That's how it should be
Chamboy said:
Hi Rob,
Thanks for the kind words - yes C/Ls were on my 'must-have' list - indeed! Thankfully as my Better Half is as much as a petrol head as I am (ex-GT3's - but now fully converted) there was no domestic strife involved in this one...She absolutely adored the car the first time she clapped eyes on it (with a firm 'NO' from me as was £260k originally )
Your note about the "winglets" is well made - the guys at Cheltenham tell me they have to remove them to get it on and off their transporter truck, so I've got no chance as we are well out in the sticks and the V12SM touches its under-splitter plastic 'tab' jobbies down on the odd occasion already...
yes - I would be v. Interested in joining the what's app group - so if Fil is watching plse drop me a line :-)
Best,
Andy
PS I checked my research on all the available specs and I think the Harwoods and Redline cars are different - the former has S/S and the latter Ti...
Ciao Andy, welcome to the club! I just sent you an email through PH with the details. Please let me know if you received it!Thanks for the kind words - yes C/Ls were on my 'must-have' list -
indeed! Thankfully as my Better Half is as much as a petrol head as I am (ex-GT3's - but now fully converted) there was no domestic strife involved in this one...She absolutely adored the car the first time she clapped eyes on it (with a firm 'NO' from me as was £260k originally )Your note about the "winglets" is well made - the guys at Cheltenham tell me they have to remove them to get it on and off their transporter truck, so I've got no chance as we are well out in the sticks and the V12SM touches its under-splitter plastic 'tab' jobbies down on the odd occasion already...
yes - I would be v. Interested in joining the what's app group - so if Fil is watching plse drop me a line :-)
Best,
Andy
PS I checked my research on all the available specs and I think the Harwoods and Redline cars are different - the former has S/S and the latter Ti...
RobDown said:
Ah, good spot. I don't think I've ever heard a GT8 without the Ti exhaust - might sounds as good but probably also then goes some way to explaining the price. That's going to be a hard car to shift
True but don't forget the Ti exhaust can be added back in for £12k so only goes so far to explain a price difference at this level. It does however look like the wiser choice would have been to spec it at new!AdamV12V said:
RobDown said:
Ah, good spot. I don't think I've ever heard a GT8 without the Ti exhaust - might sounds as good but probably also then goes some way to explaining the price. That's going to be a hard car to shift
True but don't forget the Ti exhaust can be added back in for £12k so only goes so far to explain a price difference at this level. It does however look like the wiser choice would have been to spec it at new!The GT8 market seems to be suggesting circa £20k at the moment (and personally I doubt that discount will diminish and could possibly increase over time).
RobDown said:
Totally, the Ti exhaust can be remedied. But that then takes you up to £210ish. The SS3 is then the big problem. How much of a discount do you put in that?
The GT8 market seems to be suggesting circa £20k at the moment (and personally I doubt that discount will diminish and could possibly increase over time).
Yup totally agree - but in the instance of the Harwoods VS Redline cars both are SS3, so the only difference to really justify the price difference seems to be the exhaust...The GT8 market seems to be suggesting circa £20k at the moment (and personally I doubt that discount will diminish and could possibly increase over time).
I'm not as close as some others on here are to the GT8 market, but surely the bottom line is that there are c. 20 cars for sale on PH and a number of others either listed elsewhere or not listed at all
Compared to initial production numbers, that's a very high number and some of them are unrealistic sellers who presumably only ever bought hoping for GT12 style premiums
Until that number drops, logic suggests premiums will be difficult for all but the most desirable spec cars
Meanwhile I'm not quite sure how much Aston can do about flippers. They either let dealers allocate 1 car per dealership as they did with the 101 roadsters, the AMR cars and I'm guessing (?) GT8, which makes it hard to stop the flippers, or they factory allocate, eg Vanquish Zagato & Valkyrie, which gives more room for them to 'inspect' buyers, but actually isn't necessarily in our interests as it means our dealer relationships have less benefit and arguably, also makes it more likely slots are opened out to customers who aren't historically Aston buyers if the factory want to bring in new blood. Basically, no easy solutions and all part of the 'problem' when your cars become more popular
IMO the biggest issue is the initial factory pricing and the production numbers which is often (with hindsight especially) wrong. Because they don't operate in the same arena as Porsche or Ferrari who can quickly sell out 500 or 1000 'limited edition specials', being just a few dozen out on the production numbers or 20% out on the price can have a big impact on the cars selling and on their future premiums/flippers which means it's a really hard model to get right
Compared to initial production numbers, that's a very high number and some of them are unrealistic sellers who presumably only ever bought hoping for GT12 style premiums
Until that number drops, logic suggests premiums will be difficult for all but the most desirable spec cars
Meanwhile I'm not quite sure how much Aston can do about flippers. They either let dealers allocate 1 car per dealership as they did with the 101 roadsters, the AMR cars and I'm guessing (?) GT8, which makes it hard to stop the flippers, or they factory allocate, eg Vanquish Zagato & Valkyrie, which gives more room for them to 'inspect' buyers, but actually isn't necessarily in our interests as it means our dealer relationships have less benefit and arguably, also makes it more likely slots are opened out to customers who aren't historically Aston buyers if the factory want to bring in new blood. Basically, no easy solutions and all part of the 'problem' when your cars become more popular
IMO the biggest issue is the initial factory pricing and the production numbers which is often (with hindsight especially) wrong. Because they don't operate in the same arena as Porsche or Ferrari who can quickly sell out 500 or 1000 'limited edition specials', being just a few dozen out on the production numbers or 20% out on the price can have a big impact on the cars selling and on their future premiums/flippers which means it's a really hard model to get right
Edited by jonby on Thursday 31st August 10:56
AdamV12V said:
Yup totally agree - but in the instance of the Harwoods VS Redline cars both are SS3, so the only difference to really justify the price difference seems to be the exhaust...
The Redline car also has the Centrelocks wheels (but if your point is that it's uncompetitively priced as well I totally agree)Chamboy said:
Hi all,
Well spotted - and interesting. i'm sure it's not escaped your attention that other dealers have also reduced asking prices to something more, can I say, amenable to those of us who struggle with the concept of "premiums over". I missed out (well turned down actually) on new last year and have been regretting that ever since I saw and hear the real thing at last year's FoS.
Some reductions argentiere large enough (£45k+) that, after much deliberation, I could resist no longer and have just completed the deal on the HR Owen manual one in black
. Car is no. 66 and FWIW after a deal of negotiating was secured for about original list, give or take, Am happy with that and, more importantly, VERY excited as you can imagine 
Just got to get the less-than-perfect drive at home sorted out so I can actually get the car back home without damaging some expensive carbon fibre. Oh..and the car WILL be driven!
Best to all you lucky GT8 owners..
Andy
Good choice. It is a cracking car. Done just under a 1000 miles in mine now and its starting to get better with every mile! Centre locks are a right pain though. Spoke to several tyre places to get tyre changed before having to buy 1" female - 3/4" socket myself to get it done! I would recommend that anybody with centre locks gets one of these sockets and keeps it in the car. Well spotted - and interesting. i'm sure it's not escaped your attention that other dealers have also reduced asking prices to something more, can I say, amenable to those of us who struggle with the concept of "premiums over". I missed out (well turned down actually) on new last year and have been regretting that ever since I saw and hear the real thing at last year's FoS.
Some reductions argentiere large enough (£45k+) that, after much deliberation, I could resist no longer and have just completed the deal on the HR Owen manual one in black
. Car is no. 66 and FWIW after a deal of negotiating was secured for about original list, give or take, Am happy with that and, more importantly, VERY excited as you can imagine Just got to get the less-than-perfect drive at home sorted out so I can actually get the car back home without damaging some expensive carbon fibre. Oh..and the car WILL be driven!Best to all you lucky GT8 owners..
Andy
jonby said:
I'm not as close as some others on here are to the GT8 market, but surely the bottom line is that there are c. 20 cars for sale on PH and a number of others either listed elsewhere or not listed at all
Compared to initial production numbers, that's a very high number and some of them are unrealistic sellers who presumably only ever bought hoping for GT12 style premiums
Until that number drops, logic suggests premiums will be difficult for all but the most desirable spec cars
Meanwhile I'm not quite sure how much Aston can do about flippers. They either let dealers allocate 1 car per dealership as they did with the 101 roadsters, the AMR cars and I'm guessing (?) GT8, which makes it hard to stop the flippers, or they factory allocate, eg Vanquish Zagato & Valkyrie, which gives more room for them to 'inspect' buyers, but actually isn't necessarily in our interests as it means our dealer relationships have less benefit and arguably, also makes it more likely slots are opened out to customers who aren't historically Aston buyers if the factory want to bring in new blood. Basically, no easy solutions and all part of the 'problem' when your cars become more popular
IMO the biggest issue is the initial factory pricing and the production numbers which is often (with hindsight especially) wrong. Because they don't operate in the same arena as Porsche or Ferrari who can quickly sell out 500 or 1000 'limited edition specials', being just a few dozen out on the production numbers or 20% out on the price can have a big impact on the cars selling and on their future premiums/flippers which means it's a really hard model to get right
Cars are selling for around list at the moment, unless as you say, it is a very desirable spec. Compared to initial production numbers, that's a very high number and some of them are unrealistic sellers who presumably only ever bought hoping for GT12 style premiums
Until that number drops, logic suggests premiums will be difficult for all but the most desirable spec cars
Meanwhile I'm not quite sure how much Aston can do about flippers. They either let dealers allocate 1 car per dealership as they did with the 101 roadsters, the AMR cars and I'm guessing (?) GT8, which makes it hard to stop the flippers, or they factory allocate, eg Vanquish Zagato & Valkyrie, which gives more room for them to 'inspect' buyers, but actually isn't necessarily in our interests as it means our dealer relationships have less benefit and arguably, also makes it more likely slots are opened out to customers who aren't historically Aston buyers if the factory want to bring in new blood. Basically, no easy solutions and all part of the 'problem' when your cars become more popular
IMO the biggest issue is the initial factory pricing and the production numbers which is often (with hindsight especially) wrong. Because they don't operate in the same arena as Porsche or Ferrari who can quickly sell out 500 or 1000 'limited edition specials', being just a few dozen out on the production numbers or 20% out on the price can have a big impact on the cars selling and on their future premiums/flippers which means it's a really hard model to get right
Edited by jonby on Thursday 31st August 10:56
With regards selling to people who are going to sell on, why should they care. GT8's didn't sell out for between 6-8 weeks after the launch and even then a few people dropped out and cars were offered around to existing customers. Without the flippers i doubt they would have sold all of them!
I agree the numbers and price has been a issue with the GT8. It was too expensive and i think they should have only built 100. But saying that the whole car market is depressed at the moment. Prices across the supercar market have been dropping for a while now!
jonby said:
Because they don't operate in the same arena as Porsche or Ferrari who can quickly sell out 500 or 1000 'limited edition specials', being just a few dozen out on the production numbers or 20% out on the price can have a big impact on the cars selling and on their future premiums/flippers which means it's a really hard model to get right.
I hope that I am proved wrong, but the one limited number which I thought must clearly be wrong, was 210 for the Rapide AMR.
I know that a Rapide raced once at Nurburgring, and even completed a lap without using any petrol, but that hardly counts a racing pedigree.
Jon39 said:
jonby said:
Because they don't operate in the same arena as Porsche or Ferrari who can quickly sell out 500 or 1000 'limited edition specials', being just a few dozen out on the production numbers or 20% out on the price can have a big impact on the cars selling and on their future premiums/flippers which means it's a really hard model to get right.
I hope that I am proved wrong, but the one limited number which I thought must clearly be wrong, was 210 for the Rapide AMR.
I know that a Rapide raced once at Nurburgring, and even completed a lap without using any petrol, but that hardly counts a racing pedigree.
Jon39 said:
I hope that I am proved wrong, but the one limited number which I thought must clearly be wrong, was 210 for the Rapide AMR.
I know that a Rapide raced once at Nurburgring, and even completed a lap without using any petrol, but that hardly counts a racing pedigree.
Hi Rob,
Yes I did thanks - and I'll be getting sorted out this weekend. As I explained to Fil, I won't be actually be taking collection of the car until the spring (we've run out of garage space - too many Aston! And really it's a present to self - significant birthday coming up in a few months time 😨) but are looking forward to meeting up next year and adding to the symphony of Ti exhausted GT8s 😎😎.
Best,
Andy
Yes I did thanks - and I'll be getting sorted out this weekend. As I explained to Fil, I won't be actually be taking collection of the car until the spring (we've run out of garage space - too many Aston! And really it's a present to self - significant birthday coming up in a few months time 😨) but are looking forward to meeting up next year and adding to the symphony of Ti exhausted GT8s 😎😎.
Best,
Andy
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