Vantage AMR

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AdamV12V

5,109 posts

179 months

Monday 19th June 2017
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kizzz said:
Great thanks for the info.

Has anyone had quotes from the dealer for fitting the aero kit?
Chamboy posted this on page2 of this thread - but not sure this includes a cost for painting the GT4 side sills, so I'd expect a little bit more.

That said, you should end up with a spare V12 front splitter and V12 side sills which could again be sold on here pretty easily, so maybe a net cost of maybe £12k?

Chamboy said:
As i've been in discussions with my dealer revthe AMR - (probably) sadly I'm second in the queue for a 12 with said dealer so unlikely to actually get one...but anyway in an idle few moments earlier I priced up a 'let's push the boat out' 12 with the latest info, as follows:

halo scheme
CF seats
Glass switches
Carbon door pulls (to complete the spec properly!)
Front parking
Couple of small other extras (mirror, fuel filler)
Performance pack - fitting is 10 hrs - was quoted 1,440
wheels
Aero pack - fitting cost tbc but likely in the range 5 hrs so lets say 720
12k of Q
OTR. ( now 4,050)

Discount highly unlikely

Bottom line for above is a shade over £213k...!

That's some food for thought.

ockhamsrazor

90 posts

169 months

Tuesday 20th June 2017
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"Vantage AMR is available in four striking AMR exterior schemes: Stratus White with an Orange graphic; Ultramarine Black with Blue graphic; Zaffre Blue with Red graphic and Scintilla Silver with Grey graphic."

Are there any pics of these colour schemes?

IanV12VR

2,749 posts

157 months

Tuesday 20th June 2017
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See The link in Jonby's post on 13 June.

jarodw

115 posts

149 months

Tuesday 20th June 2017
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ockhamsrazor said:
"Vantage AMR is available in four striking AMR exterior schemes: Stratus White with an Orange graphic; Ultramarine Black with Blue graphic; Zaffre Blue with Red graphic and Scintilla Silver with Grey graphic."

Are there any pics of these colour schemes?
here you go...







more on https://www.astonmartin.com/en/cars/the-vantage-ra...
At the bottom of the page.

J

onlogbook.com

1,828 posts

156 months

Tuesday 20th June 2017
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Wow love the subtly of the grey and the shouty elegance of the blue!

hornbaek

3,689 posts

237 months

Tuesday 20th June 2017
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AdamV12V said:
I know I have been here before BUT somebody needs to get their head examined. 12 months ago you could by the V12S Manual for say 135k. In honesty probably 25-30 cars were sold - so really rare as a result of very few customers actually ordering one. The AML launches the final run of 100 cars and we all crawl over them until the order book is closed. Then they launch the AMR version with a bit of cosmetic add ons and now the price is +200k. Bonkers !

cayman-black

12,720 posts

218 months

Tuesday 20th June 2017
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I hate to say it but i agree with hornbaek !
At that money i,m having one of those purple RS,s that Top 555 have for sale.

RobDown

3,803 posts

130 months

Tuesday 20th June 2017
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When are you selling the overpriced DB4 then Hormbaek? 😜

AdamV12V

5,109 posts

179 months

Tuesday 20th June 2017
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hornbaek said:
AdamV12V said:
I know I have been here before BUT somebody needs to get their head examined. 12 months ago you could by the V12S Manual for say 135k. In honesty probably 25-30 cars were sold - so really rare as a result of very few customers actually ordering one. The AML launches the final run of 100 cars and we all crawl over them until the order book is closed. Then they launch the AMR version with a bit of cosmetic add ons and now the price is +200k. Bonkers !
Hey - don't drag me into it :P

I hate to point it out but there is no way you could get a brand new V12VSM 12 months ago for £135k even with a discount, so its not exactly a fair comparison against a brand new AMR Vantage. At £135k they were ex-demo or press cars, and its still the same case now. Plus the price at +£200k includes a lot of AMR Accessories which are not really part of the AMR Vantage spec,albeit they are clearly aimed at those customers first and foremost, but they could be added to any used Vantage too.

So it's more like £145k a year ago for a new V12VSM vs £175k now for the AMR V12 Vantage, so a much much smaller gap, but your point is basically valid, hence why you, me and a few others chose not to proceed with one. That said word seems to be that they have materially all sold out, so it can't be that bonkers really...

Big Ry

1,678 posts

121 months

Tuesday 20th June 2017
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It does all seem to be getting a little crazy. If people are buying these last examples because they genuinely want them then fair enough, that makes sense. However I wonder if anyone trying to move them on the shortish term is going to get a bit burnt. I think people are starting to get a but weary of all this just one more special. In my mind AM fked up, and the real final run should always have been the GT8 and GT12, that's it.

There are a few nice spec ex-demo manual coupes out there at the moment, the most expensive being £135k which is no doubt £130k if you're a buyer. For me, other than bragging rights the extra power is as pointless as a chocolate teapot, my V12 is too fast for me as it is, it's impossible to change gear fast enough to keep up with the acceleration so I don't need nearly another 100bhp.

For me, the real issue here is that nobody seems to know quite how rare etc these cars will be. All these extra slots etc, what's to say AM won't say actually, we've got only got 150 buyers for the V8 but people asking for the V12, lets do 150 of each. I know it all sounds unlikely, but we've all seen AM do some unlikely things in the past.

As I've said previously, AM seriously need to get a grip on WTF they're doing, as it's starting to look a little like amateur night and that's not a good look.

However, you pay your money you take your choice.

RobDown

3,803 posts

130 months

Tuesday 20th June 2017
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Can I just add that the only v12vs manual Roadster I can see up for sale on autotrader is the ex-demo at £175k

So should I buy that or should I pay £10k more to buy a new AMR Roadster with my options and the power upgrade? No brainier really

Edited by RobDown on Tuesday 20th June 13:03

RobDown

3,803 posts

130 months

Tuesday 20th June 2017
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Maybe we should just close this thread and those buying them can move to a whatsapp group in the same way that we did with the GT8s. Which is a real shame for the forum

Really boring seeing the thread update and then when I look to see if there's something useful that I need/want to know, finding its actually the same 3-4 Cassandra's constantly trying to knock.

Several people have already left the forum because of it and tbh I'm starting to have a lot of sympathy for them

Yawn

Phil74891

1,074 posts

135 months

Tuesday 20th June 2017
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I was excited to hear about the AMR editions, then I saw the price and realized I've already got one. How much are yellow stripes?

(If you're a buyer, surely it has to be the second one down, the others don't make any sense).



[quote=jarodw]


here you go...







more on https://www.astonmartin.com/en/cars/the-vantage-ra...
At the bottom of the page.

cayman-black

12,720 posts

218 months

Tuesday 20th June 2017
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Rob , its only people expressing there views personally i,m happy for any one who buys one of these great cars but to say you will close this thread down does sound slightly arrogant imo.

AdamV8V

1,381 posts

158 months

Tuesday 20th June 2017
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Phil74891 said:
(If you're a buyer, surely it has to be the second one down, the others don't make any sense).
Except if you're going for a Roadster, in which case (IMO) the motorsport connection starts to get (even more?) fragile and replicating the AMR racecar colour scheme becomes less relevant.

Another way to look at these cars is that they are just nicely spec'd examples of a great car, available in colours that were once reserved to Q customers and with the power upgrade that has up until now only been offered as an aftermarket kit.

When you look at it that way (and don't expect the car to make you rich), then £160k+ options for a V12VS Roadster starts to make sense. All in the context of how much sense does £160k on a car really make!

You do have to be throwing the kitchen sink at it to get into £200k territory!

RobDown

3,803 posts

130 months

Tuesday 20th June 2017
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cayman-black said:
Rob , its only people expressing there views personally i,m happy for any one who buys one of these great cars but to say you will close this thread down does sound slightly arrogant imo.
Ok, my final post in this thread.

I have no idea how you arrive at the conclusion that my comment is arrogant. Certainly not my intention. My point is more that if the buyers of these cars (and I am one) stop posting in this thread then it will effectively disappear down the timeline. There are only so many times that Hornbaek can post his same old comment (actually there aren't it seems when you look at his posting history). That's what happened to the GT8 thread (I haven't even bothered posting a picture of my car on there)

And that's a real shame as I'm sure there are many people out there who would enjoy seeing the spec process, particularly as some of it will involve AMR accessories that many will be thinking about for non-AMR cars both now and in the future (much as Adams Kermit build is very informative).

One comment just for some factual balance. The cost of a MY18 Vantage (ie the AMR) is a 5% increase on the MY17.5 Vantage (yes, I know there might be a discount somewhere). And for that 5% V12 AMR buyers are getting a) a newer car, b) the power upgrade c) some nice extra CF bits and d) a limited edition. You know what? That seems like a good deal to me, because my man maths tells me that 1) I'm getting a car that I want and 2) the AMR is likely to trade at a premium to a non-AMR like-for-like equivalent

Yes I can spec lots of extra options, but I can do that with any AM.

Final point. I come here to enjoy talking about Aston Martin's and to hopefully help out others who are thinking of buying one or have trouble with an existing one or who simply want to share photos of their P&J with people who will understand and appreciate them. Not to engage in pissing matches about how we're all stupid for buying one (I paraphrase of course, but some posters aren't too far from that).



hashluck

1,615 posts

277 months

Tuesday 20th June 2017
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Well I would like to take part in the vicarious journey of you specifying your car Rob. Perhaps another thread?

I think it is great there is such interest in these cars at the end of a great innings. I was a buyer of a V8S new in 2014 and loved every moment of the process.

HBradley

1,037 posts

183 months

Tuesday 20th June 2017
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hashluck said:
Well I would like to take part in the vicarious journey of you specifying your car Rob. Perhaps another thread?

I think it is great there is such interest in these cars at the end of a great innings. I was a buyer of a V8S new in 2014 and loved every moment of the process.
Couldn't agree more! I really enjoy reading about the process for anyone buying a new AM.

I might be slightly old fashioned but I tend to think that to criticise someone's option/colour choices is almost like saying their baby is ugly!!!

Big Ry

1,678 posts

121 months

Tuesday 20th June 2017
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I'd like to think that just a gentlemans agreement that people won't post negative ste about what people are buying would suffice.

We all place value in different things, me cars, my Mrs diamonds, I think they're a waste of money and she pretty much thinks the same about mine biggrin

Lets all just agree to engage in good spirit, or not to post on that thread at all.

As I said, you pay your money you take your choice, if we all wanted the same thing life would be pretty boring......and so would this forum.

AdamV8V

1,381 posts

158 months

Tuesday 20th June 2017
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hashluck said:
Well I would like to take part in the vicarious journey of you specifying your car Rob. Perhaps another thread?
+1

(Edit: +2!)