AMR Accessories
Discussion
jonby said:
Neil1300r said:
AMR Race Helmet - £3k !!!!!
That's some serious markup for a paint job. it's not even carbon
From memory when I checked, that's a helmet that is the best part of 1.5k without graphicsThat's some serious markup for a paint job. it's not even carbon
A designer would charge a minimum of 1k to design and paint that design in high quality - believe it or not, that's one of the amr items they are not taking the mick with the mark up
Hunter T said:
I did say practical use. I just dont think all the visual add ons add anything, looks like the car has been on a drive through in halfords
I agree, I was only curious about the titanium exhaust. Probably find out once these AMR's starting getting delivered, bound to be a few with the titanium exhaust. RobDown said:
Ooh, how was the Supercharger? Noticeable difference?
Amazing low down torque and just keeps pulling http://gmr-uk.co.uk/wp-content/uploads/2017/06/122...
Edited by LordBretSinclair on Monday 10th July 17:13
V8 Vantage GT said:
Hunter T said:
I did say practical use. I just dont think all the visual add ons add anything, looks like the car has been on a drive through in halfords
I agree, I was only curious about the titanium exhaust. Probably find out once these AMR's starting getting delivered, bound to be a few with the titanium exhaust. I need some help to understand this.
Is it the design and shaping of an exhaust system, that produces the variation in sound ?
If yes, then the material used to make the components, may not make any difference at all to the sound.
Exhaust systems are commonly made from mild steel or stainless steel.
I know that one of the properties of titanium, is that it allows human bone to grow around it, hence medical and dental uses. Of little benefit for an exhaust system.
Why is titanium used to construct an exhaust system ?
Please tell me that titanium instead of stainless, is not being used here purely to justify the £11,000 price.
Hunter T said:
I did say practical use. I just dont think all the visual add ons add anything, looks like the car has been on a drive through in halfords
Your personal opinion of course of which you are very much entitled to have. There are quite a few who wouldn't agree however - including many of the AMR Vantage customers who seem to be speccing Aerokit and the AMR wheels on their order (based on spec's posted on the AMR Vantage thread). The point being up until now, the only way to such items was indeed with an aftermarket tuner (aka Halfords), but now there is a genuine factory AM option to have these, which is genuinely linked to the AM motorsport parts. These mods may not be to everybodies personal preference, but "Halfords" they are not.
LordBretSinclair said:
Thank you.
I see now, it has nothing to do with the resultant sound, but is lighter (the website says this equals faster) and never corrodes.
So when fitted to a Vantage, how much less would my car weigh ( perhaps 1%, 0.1% or 0.01% ) overall, including driver and full fuel tank?
What bothers me about all this, is I probably mistakenly tend to think real world.
Each time that I take my Aston for a drive, I soon find myself in a line of traffic.
Usually it is briefly possible to use full throttle for a few second and so quickly reach ? mph, but if my exhaust system was made of titanium, it would make no difference whatsoever to the performance or enjoyment.
It would appear, that the 'titanium' type sound, can be achieved with conventional metals, for just a fraction of £11,000.
Jon39 said:
Thank you.
I see now, it has nothing to do with the resultant sound, but is lighter (the website says this equals faster) and never corrodes.
So when fitted to a Vantage, how much less would my car weigh ( perhaps 1%, 0.1% or 0.01% ) overall, including driver and full fuel tank?
What bothers me about all this, is I probably mistakenly tend to think real world.
Each time that I take my Aston for a drive, I soon find myself in a line of traffic.
Usually it is briefly possible to use full throttle for a few second and so quickly reach ? mph, but if my exhaust system was made of titanium, it would make no difference whatsoever to the performance or enjoyment.
It would appear, that the 'titanium' type sound, can be achieved with conventional metals, for just a fraction of £11,000.
" Aside of being extremely lightweight and strong, there is also a noticeable difference in sound when comparing Titanium to your standard Stainless Steel exhaust system, this is because Titanium is less dense than steel allowing it to produce a more exotic “Metallic” sound."
https://www.agency-power.com/titanium-exhaust-vs-s...
AdamV12V said:
Your personal opinion of course of which you are very much entitled to have. There are quite a few who wouldn't agree however - including many of the AMR Vantage customers who seem to be speccing Aerokit and the AMR wheels on their order (based on spec's posted on the AMR Vantage thread).
The point being up until now, the only way to such items was indeed with an aftermarket tuner (aka Halfords), but now there is a genuine factory AM option to have these, which is genuinely linked to the AM motorsport parts. These mods may not be to everybodies personal preference, but "Halfords" they are not.
I just dont see the point whether they are genuine parts or not, unless you are racing the car then the effect on public roads will be next to zero and in my opinion they actually detract from the looks of a beautiful car. Just because the parts are expensive doesnt make them automatically enhancing. Infact i think ive seen halford kitted cars in macdonalds car parks with similar add ons. As you say though its all about personal choice...i just wouldnt draw a beard on the monalisa because i think its fine how it is.(even if the pen was a genuine carbon fibre mont blanc)The point being up until now, the only way to such items was indeed with an aftermarket tuner (aka Halfords), but now there is a genuine factory AM option to have these, which is genuinely linked to the AM motorsport parts. These mods may not be to everybodies personal preference, but "Halfords" they are not.
An exceedingly interesting thread in that we're talking about gilding a lily. Said lily being one of the most beautiful cars past or present not to mention being faster than about 99% of all road cars as stock. The AMR products offered at such an incredible premium are truly designed for the Walter Mitty type with pockets that approach the Marianas Trench. I, for one, am so far beyond the time (19 y.o.) when I was so obsessed with installing a Bursch extractor exhaust on my newly acquired '55 Porsche that I would skip meals in order to make it happen. I did draw the line at $75 plus tax for proper nerf bars! They looked so good but did add unwelcome weight; I just couldn't stretch the budget any more.
Anyway, I see so little return on investment that only the clutch looks rational mainly because it's OEM and there's a lot to be said for that at resale time. BTW, that clutch should have been introduced at the launch of the V8S 5 years ago as a further way to justify its higher price and higher output.
The Aerokit on any non track Aston is like a nose ring on Kristen Bell. I hope I wasn't unclear.
However, submitted for your consideration, is an option I wholeheartedly endorse as a "proper" way to enhance performance at a commensurate expense. Perhaps you've heard of the newer Ford Mustang GT350R. One of its notable features among many are its carbon fiber wheels. The cyclists among us can testify to the benefits of reducing rotating weight. We've already got CF prop shafts; these proper Aussie CF wheels made to AM specifications would be winners for those who require an actual performance boost that can be felt. The Mustang and the Aston already share the same bolt circle diameter. To conclude: Less rotating weight combined with lighter pockets! Win, win! Okay, I'll stop. Cheers, Thomas
Anyway, I see so little return on investment that only the clutch looks rational mainly because it's OEM and there's a lot to be said for that at resale time. BTW, that clutch should have been introduced at the launch of the V8S 5 years ago as a further way to justify its higher price and higher output.
The Aerokit on any non track Aston is like a nose ring on Kristen Bell. I hope I wasn't unclear.
However, submitted for your consideration, is an option I wholeheartedly endorse as a "proper" way to enhance performance at a commensurate expense. Perhaps you've heard of the newer Ford Mustang GT350R. One of its notable features among many are its carbon fiber wheels. The cyclists among us can testify to the benefits of reducing rotating weight. We've already got CF prop shafts; these proper Aussie CF wheels made to AM specifications would be winners for those who require an actual performance boost that can be felt. The Mustang and the Aston already share the same bolt circle diameter. To conclude: Less rotating weight combined with lighter pockets! Win, win! Okay, I'll stop. Cheers, Thomas
Tnewland said:
An exceedingly interesting thread in that we're talking about gilding a lily. Said lily being one of the most beautiful cars past or present not to mention being faster than about 99% of all road cars as stock. The AMR products offered at such an incredible premium are truly designed for the Walter Mitty type with pockets that approach the Marianas Trench. I, for one, am so far beyond the time (19 y.o.) when I was so obsessed with installing a Bursch extractor exhaust on my newly acquired '55 Porsche that I would skip meals in order to make it happen. I did draw the line at $75 plus tax for proper nerf bars! They looked so good but did add unwelcome weight; I just couldn't stretch the budget any more.
Anyway, I see so little return on investment that only the clutch looks rational mainly because it's OEM and there's a lot to be said for that at resale time. BTW, that clutch should have been introduced at the launch of the V8S 5 years ago as a further way to justify its higher price and higher output.
The Aerokit on any non track Aston is like a nose ring on Kristen Bell. I hope I wasn't unclear.
However, submitted for your consideration, is an option I wholeheartedly endorse as a "proper" way to enhance performance at a commensurate expense. Perhaps you've heard of the newer Ford Mustang GT350R. One of its notable features among many are its carbon fiber wheels. The cyclists among us can testify to the benefits of reducing rotating weight. We've already got CF prop shafts; these proper Aussie CF wheels made to AM specifications would be winners for those who require an actual performance boost that can be felt. The Mustang and the Aston already share the same bolt circle diameter. To conclude: Less rotating weight combined with lighter pockets! Win, win! Okay, I'll stop. Cheers, Thomas
I know this might be a controversial statement, but perhaps some people just like the way it (the aerokit) looks ?Anyway, I see so little return on investment that only the clutch looks rational mainly because it's OEM and there's a lot to be said for that at resale time. BTW, that clutch should have been introduced at the launch of the V8S 5 years ago as a further way to justify its higher price and higher output.
The Aerokit on any non track Aston is like a nose ring on Kristen Bell. I hope I wasn't unclear.
However, submitted for your consideration, is an option I wholeheartedly endorse as a "proper" way to enhance performance at a commensurate expense. Perhaps you've heard of the newer Ford Mustang GT350R. One of its notable features among many are its carbon fiber wheels. The cyclists among us can testify to the benefits of reducing rotating weight. We've already got CF prop shafts; these proper Aussie CF wheels made to AM specifications would be winners for those who require an actual performance boost that can be felt. The Mustang and the Aston already share the same bolt circle diameter. To conclude: Less rotating weight combined with lighter pockets! Win, win! Okay, I'll stop. Cheers, Thomas
I might be mistaken, but I thought this was just the factory offering some options for those who like them, can afford them and can justify the cost to buy them ?
jonby said:
Tnewland said:
An exceedingly interesting thread in that we're talking about gilding a lily. Said lily being one of the most beautiful cars past or present not to mention being faster than about 99% of all road cars as stock. The AMR products offered at such an incredible premium are truly designed for the Walter Mitty type with pockets that approach the Marianas Trench. I, for one, am so far beyond the time (19 y.o.) when I was so obsessed with installing a Bursch extractor exhaust on my newly acquired '55 Porsche that I would skip meals in order to make it happen. I did draw the line at $75 plus tax for proper nerf bars! They looked so good but did add unwelcome weight; I just couldn't stretch the budget any more.
Anyway, I see so little return on investment that only the clutch looks rational mainly because it's OEM and there's a lot to be said for that at resale time. BTW, that clutch should have been introduced at the launch of the V8S 5 years ago as a further way to justify its higher price and higher output.
The Aerokit on any non track Aston is like a nose ring on Kristen Bell. I hope I wasn't unclear.
However, submitted for your consideration, is an option I wholeheartedly endorse as a "proper" way to enhance performance at a commensurate expense. Perhaps you've heard of the newer Ford Mustang GT350R. One of its notable features among many are its carbon fiber wheels. The cyclists among us can testify to the benefits of reducing rotating weight. We've already got CF prop shafts; these proper Aussie CF wheels made to AM specifications would be winners for those who require an actual performance boost that can be felt. The Mustang and the Aston already share the same bolt circle diameter. To conclude: Less rotating weight combined with lighter pockets! Win, win! Okay, I'll stop. Cheers, Thomas
I know this might be a controversial statement, but perhaps some people just like the way it (the aerokit) looks ?Anyway, I see so little return on investment that only the clutch looks rational mainly because it's OEM and there's a lot to be said for that at resale time. BTW, that clutch should have been introduced at the launch of the V8S 5 years ago as a further way to justify its higher price and higher output.
The Aerokit on any non track Aston is like a nose ring on Kristen Bell. I hope I wasn't unclear.
However, submitted for your consideration, is an option I wholeheartedly endorse as a "proper" way to enhance performance at a commensurate expense. Perhaps you've heard of the newer Ford Mustang GT350R. One of its notable features among many are its carbon fiber wheels. The cyclists among us can testify to the benefits of reducing rotating weight. We've already got CF prop shafts; these proper Aussie CF wheels made to AM specifications would be winners for those who require an actual performance boost that can be felt. The Mustang and the Aston already share the same bolt circle diameter. To conclude: Less rotating weight combined with lighter pockets! Win, win! Okay, I'll stop. Cheers, Thomas
I might be mistaken, but I thought this was just the factory offering some options for those who like them, can afford them and can justify the cost to buy them ?
I don't believe you're mistaken about the factory's intentions. If I was in charge of marketing, I'd be pushing boutique options as well until I thought I'm doing more harm than good to the image of the marque. Lord knows that Aston needs to boost profits.
However, with all that said, I still can't clear my mind of a Cars & Coffee lineup consisting of winged and blinged Honda Civics, Nissan Sentras, Mitsubishi Eclipses, Subaru Legacys, Kia Rios, Hyundai Elantras, Trabants, Isettas, etcetera surrounding an Aerokitted Aston street car. Oh, the horror! Don't worry, I eventually fall back asleep. Cheers, Thomas
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Tnewland said:
jonby said:
Tnewland said:
An exceedingly interesting thread in that we're talking about gilding a lily. Said lily being one of the most beautiful cars past or present not to mention being faster than about 99% of all road cars as stock. The AMR products offered at such an incredible premium are truly designed for the Walter Mitty type with pockets that approach the Marianas Trench. I, for one, am so far beyond the time (19 y.o.) when I was so obsessed with installing a Bursch extractor exhaust on my newly acquired '55 Porsche that I would skip meals in order to make it happen. I did draw the line at $75 plus tax for proper nerf bars! They looked so good but did add unwelcome weight; I just couldn't stretch the budget any more.
Anyway, I see so little return on investment that only the clutch looks rational mainly because it's OEM and there's a lot to be said for that at resale time. BTW, that clutch should have been introduced at the launch of the V8S 5 years ago as a further way to justify its higher price and higher output.
The Aerokit on any non track Aston is like a nose ring on Kristen Bell. I hope I wasn't unclear.
However, submitted for your consideration, is an option I wholeheartedly endorse as a "proper" way to enhance performance at a commensurate expense. Perhaps you've heard of the newer Ford Mustang GT350R. One of its notable features among many are its carbon fiber wheels. The cyclists among us can testify to the benefits of reducing rotating weight. We've already got CF prop shafts; these proper Aussie CF wheels made to AM specifications would be winners for those who require an actual performance boost that can be felt. The Mustang and the Aston already share the same bolt circle diameter. To conclude: Less rotating weight combined with lighter pockets! Win, win! Okay, I'll stop. Cheers, Thomas
I know this might be a controversial statement, but perhaps some people just like the way it (the aerokit) looks ?Anyway, I see so little return on investment that only the clutch looks rational mainly because it's OEM and there's a lot to be said for that at resale time. BTW, that clutch should have been introduced at the launch of the V8S 5 years ago as a further way to justify its higher price and higher output.
The Aerokit on any non track Aston is like a nose ring on Kristen Bell. I hope I wasn't unclear.
However, submitted for your consideration, is an option I wholeheartedly endorse as a "proper" way to enhance performance at a commensurate expense. Perhaps you've heard of the newer Ford Mustang GT350R. One of its notable features among many are its carbon fiber wheels. The cyclists among us can testify to the benefits of reducing rotating weight. We've already got CF prop shafts; these proper Aussie CF wheels made to AM specifications would be winners for those who require an actual performance boost that can be felt. The Mustang and the Aston already share the same bolt circle diameter. To conclude: Less rotating weight combined with lighter pockets! Win, win! Okay, I'll stop. Cheers, Thomas
I might be mistaken, but I thought this was just the factory offering some options for those who like them, can afford them and can justify the cost to buy them ?
I don't believe you're mistaken about the factory's intentions. If I was in charge of marketing, I'd be pushing boutique options as well until I thought I'm doing more harm than good to the image of the marque. Lord knows that Aston needs to boost profits.
However, with all that said, I still can't clear my mind of a Cars & Coffee lineup consisting of winged and blinged Honda Civics, Nissan Sentras, Mitsubishi Eclipses, Subaru Legacys, Kia Rios, Hyundai Elantras, Trabants, Isettas, etcetera surrounding an Aerokitted Aston street car. Oh, the horror! Don't worry, I eventually fall back asleep. Cheers, Thomas
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Some years ago now I indulged in a few Mitsubishi Evo's. Really great drivers cars with very noticeable aerodynamic additions. My view was that the car was such a thrill that I could put up with these, in my opinion, over the top spoilers but they were damn ugly and pretty uncouth.
Never did I think that, one day, Aston Martin would put similar things onto their beautiful cars. I guess times change and so do tastes, but I really cannot see how they improve such a timeless shape.
I feel the same about the horrible things they put on the bootlids of Lambo's, Jags etc too.
I'm normally pretty vociferous about aero add-ons et al to Aston Martins (ruining perfect lines, blah, blah, hurrumph etc). However, I do get it with these cars (AMR, GT8, GT12), particularly as this is the end of the line for the present Vantage & reflecting the racing pedigree that is really evocative. Let's face it who wouldn't want the feeling of driving a car that wins Le Mans?!
AM is feeding a demand & it's clear from this forum that there are plenty of takers. If it generates income & brings pleasure to the owner, then that's a very good thing!
AM is feeding a demand & it's clear from this forum that there are plenty of takers. If it generates income & brings pleasure to the owner, then that's a very good thing!
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