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Simon T

2,136 posts

275 months

Monday 10th July 2017
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jonby said:
Neil1300r said:
AMR Race Helmet - £3k !!!!!

rofl

That's some serious markup for a paint job. it's not even carbon
From memory when I checked, that's a helmet that is the best part of 1.5k without graphics

A designer would charge a minimum of 1k to design and paint that design in high quality - believe it or not, that's one of the amr items they are not taking the mick with the mark up
Try Didi..


V8 Vantage GT

1,576 posts

108 months

Monday 10th July 2017
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Hunter T said:
I did say practical use. I just dont think all the visual add ons add anything, looks like the car has been on a drive through in halfords
I agree, I was only curious about the titanium exhaust. Probably find out once these AMR's starting getting delivered, bound to be a few with the titanium exhaust.

LordBretSinclair

4,288 posts

179 months

Monday 10th July 2017
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Had a ride in a friend's GT8 yesterday.

The titanium exhaust sounded just epic !!!!


RobDown

3,803 posts

130 months

Monday 10th July 2017
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Ooh, how was the Supercharger? Noticeable difference?

LordBretSinclair

4,288 posts

179 months

Monday 10th July 2017
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RobDown said:
Ooh, how was the Supercharger? Noticeable difference?
Amazing low down torque and just keeps pulling smile

http://gmr-uk.co.uk/wp-content/uploads/2017/06/122...



Edited by LordBretSinclair on Monday 10th July 17:13

Jon39

12,901 posts

145 months

Monday 10th July 2017
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V8 Vantage GT said:
Hunter T said:
I did say practical use. I just dont think all the visual add ons add anything, looks like the car has been on a drive through in halfords
I agree, I was only curious about the titanium exhaust. Probably find out once these AMR's starting getting delivered, bound to be a few with the titanium exhaust.

I need some help to understand this.

Is it the design and shaping of an exhaust system, that produces the variation in sound ?
If yes, then the material used to make the components, may not make any difference at all to the sound.

Exhaust systems are commonly made from mild steel or stainless steel.
I know that one of the properties of titanium, is that it allows human bone to grow around it, hence medical and dental uses. Of little benefit for an exhaust system.

Why is titanium used to construct an exhaust system ?
Please tell me that titanium instead of stainless, is not being used here purely to justify the £11,000 price.













AdamV12V

Original Poster:

5,096 posts

179 months

Monday 10th July 2017
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Hunter T said:
I did say practical use. I just dont think all the visual add ons add anything, looks like the car has been on a drive through in halfords
Your personal opinion of course of which you are very much entitled to have. There are quite a few who wouldn't agree however - including many of the AMR Vantage customers who seem to be speccing Aerokit and the AMR wheels on their order (based on spec's posted on the AMR Vantage thread). scratchchin

The point being up until now, the only way to such items was indeed with an aftermarket tuner (aka Halfords), but now there is a genuine factory AM option to have these, which is genuinely linked to the AM motorsport parts. These mods may not be to everybodies personal preference, but "Halfords" they are not. nono

Jon39

12,901 posts

145 months

Monday 10th July 2017
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LordBretSinclair said:

Thank you.

I see now, it has nothing to do with the resultant sound, but is lighter (the website says this equals faster) and never corrodes.
So when fitted to a Vantage, how much less would my car weigh ( perhaps 1%, 0.1% or 0.01% ) overall, including driver and full fuel tank?

What bothers me about all this, is I probably mistakenly tend to think real world.

Each time that I take my Aston for a drive, I soon find myself in a line of traffic.
Usually it is briefly possible to use full throttle for a few second and so quickly reach ? mph, but if my exhaust system was made of titanium, it would make no difference whatsoever to the performance or enjoyment.

It would appear, that the 'titanium' type sound, can be achieved with conventional metals, for just a fraction of £11,000.








V8 Vantage GT

1,576 posts

108 months

Monday 10th July 2017
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Jon39 said:

Thank you.

I see now, it has nothing to do with the resultant sound, but is lighter (the website says this equals faster) and never corrodes.
So when fitted to a Vantage, how much less would my car weigh ( perhaps 1%, 0.1% or 0.01% ) overall, including driver and full fuel tank?

What bothers me about all this, is I probably mistakenly tend to think real world.

Each time that I take my Aston for a drive, I soon find myself in a line of traffic.
Usually it is briefly possible to use full throttle for a few second and so quickly reach ? mph, but if my exhaust system was made of titanium, it would make no difference whatsoever to the performance or enjoyment.

It would appear, that the 'titanium' type sound, can be achieved with conventional metals, for just a fraction of £11,000.
I was watching Velocity TV, they were putting titanium exhaust on a car, it was said there was a big difference in sound between titanium and stainless steel. So who knows. Here is a quote I found.

" Aside of being extremely lightweight and strong, there is also a noticeable difference in sound when comparing Titanium to your standard Stainless Steel exhaust system, this is because Titanium is less dense than steel allowing it to produce a more exotic “Metallic” sound."

https://www.agency-power.com/titanium-exhaust-vs-s...

shinjuku

476 posts

83 months

Monday 10th July 2017
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It will have a different natural frequency/resonance to stainless, though not much.

RobDown

3,803 posts

130 months

Monday 10th July 2017
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Are we doing a disservice here to Halfords. Does it even sell carbon fibre wings?" My local Halfords only seems to do bikes and screen wash. I feel I'm missing out smile

Hunter T

401 posts

179 months

Tuesday 11th July 2017
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AdamV12V said:
Your personal opinion of course of which you are very much entitled to have. There are quite a few who wouldn't agree however - including many of the AMR Vantage customers who seem to be speccing Aerokit and the AMR wheels on their order (based on spec's posted on the AMR Vantage thread). scratchchin

The point being up until now, the only way to such items was indeed with an aftermarket tuner (aka Halfords), but now there is a genuine factory AM option to have these, which is genuinely linked to the AM motorsport parts. These mods may not be to everybodies personal preference, but "Halfords" they are not. nono
I just dont see the point whether they are genuine parts or not, unless you are racing the car then the effect on public roads will be next to zero and in my opinion they actually detract from the looks of a beautiful car. Just because the parts are expensive doesnt make them automatically enhancing. Infact i think ive seen halford kitted cars in macdonalds car parks with similar add ons. As you say though its all about personal choice...i just wouldnt draw a beard on the monalisa because i think its fine how it is.(even if the pen was a genuine carbon fibre mont blanc)

Tnewland

34 posts

92 months

Tuesday 11th July 2017
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An exceedingly interesting thread in that we're talking about gilding a lily. Said lily being one of the most beautiful cars past or present not to mention being faster than about 99% of all road cars as stock. The AMR products offered at such an incredible premium are truly designed for the Walter Mitty type with pockets that approach the Marianas Trench. I, for one, am so far beyond the time (19 y.o.) when I was so obsessed with installing a Bursch extractor exhaust on my newly acquired '55 Porsche that I would skip meals in order to make it happen. I did draw the line at $75 plus tax for proper nerf bars! They looked so good but did add unwelcome weight; I just couldn't stretch the budget any more.
Anyway, I see so little return on investment that only the clutch looks rational mainly because it's OEM and there's a lot to be said for that at resale time. BTW, that clutch should have been introduced at the launch of the V8S 5 years ago as a further way to justify its higher price and higher output.
The Aerokit on any non track Aston is like a nose ring on Kristen Bell. I hope I wasn't unclear.
However, submitted for your consideration, is an option I wholeheartedly endorse as a "proper" way to enhance performance at a commensurate expense. Perhaps you've heard of the newer Ford Mustang GT350R. One of its notable features among many are its carbon fiber wheels. The cyclists among us can testify to the benefits of reducing rotating weight. We've already got CF prop shafts; these proper Aussie CF wheels made to AM specifications would be winners for those who require an actual performance boost that can be felt. The Mustang and the Aston already share the same bolt circle diameter. To conclude: Less rotating weight combined with lighter pockets! Win, win! Okay, I'll stop. Cheers, Thomas

jonby

5,357 posts

159 months

Tuesday 11th July 2017
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Tnewland said:
An exceedingly interesting thread in that we're talking about gilding a lily. Said lily being one of the most beautiful cars past or present not to mention being faster than about 99% of all road cars as stock. The AMR products offered at such an incredible premium are truly designed for the Walter Mitty type with pockets that approach the Marianas Trench. I, for one, am so far beyond the time (19 y.o.) when I was so obsessed with installing a Bursch extractor exhaust on my newly acquired '55 Porsche that I would skip meals in order to make it happen. I did draw the line at $75 plus tax for proper nerf bars! They looked so good but did add unwelcome weight; I just couldn't stretch the budget any more.
Anyway, I see so little return on investment that only the clutch looks rational mainly because it's OEM and there's a lot to be said for that at resale time. BTW, that clutch should have been introduced at the launch of the V8S 5 years ago as a further way to justify its higher price and higher output.
The Aerokit on any non track Aston is like a nose ring on Kristen Bell. I hope I wasn't unclear.
However, submitted for your consideration, is an option I wholeheartedly endorse as a "proper" way to enhance performance at a commensurate expense. Perhaps you've heard of the newer Ford Mustang GT350R. One of its notable features among many are its carbon fiber wheels. The cyclists among us can testify to the benefits of reducing rotating weight. We've already got CF prop shafts; these proper Aussie CF wheels made to AM specifications would be winners for those who require an actual performance boost that can be felt. The Mustang and the Aston already share the same bolt circle diameter. To conclude: Less rotating weight combined with lighter pockets! Win, win! Okay, I'll stop. Cheers, Thomas
I know this might be a controversial statement, but perhaps some people just like the way it (the aerokit) looks ?

I might be mistaken, but I thought this was just the factory offering some options for those who like them, can afford them and can justify the cost to buy them ?

Tnewland

34 posts

92 months

Tuesday 11th July 2017
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jonby said:
Tnewland said:
An exceedingly interesting thread in that we're talking about gilding a lily. Said lily being one of the most beautiful cars past or present not to mention being faster than about 99% of all road cars as stock. The AMR products offered at such an incredible premium are truly designed for the Walter Mitty type with pockets that approach the Marianas Trench. I, for one, am so far beyond the time (19 y.o.) when I was so obsessed with installing a Bursch extractor exhaust on my newly acquired '55 Porsche that I would skip meals in order to make it happen. I did draw the line at $75 plus tax for proper nerf bars! They looked so good but did add unwelcome weight; I just couldn't stretch the budget any more.
Anyway, I see so little return on investment that only the clutch looks rational mainly because it's OEM and there's a lot to be said for that at resale time. BTW, that clutch should have been introduced at the launch of the V8S 5 years ago as a further way to justify its higher price and higher output.
The Aerokit on any non track Aston is like a nose ring on Kristen Bell. I hope I wasn't unclear.
However, submitted for your consideration, is an option I wholeheartedly endorse as a "proper" way to enhance performance at a commensurate expense. Perhaps you've heard of the newer Ford Mustang GT350R. One of its notable features among many are its carbon fiber wheels. The cyclists among us can testify to the benefits of reducing rotating weight. We've already got CF prop shafts; these proper Aussie CF wheels made to AM specifications would be winners for those who require an actual performance boost that can be felt. The Mustang and the Aston already share the same bolt circle diameter. To conclude: Less rotating weight combined with lighter pockets! Win, win! Okay, I'll stop. Cheers, Thomas
I know this might be a controversial statement, but perhaps some people just like the way it (the aerokit) looks ?

I might be mistaken, but I thought this was just the factory offering some options for those who like them, can afford them and can justify the cost to buy them ?
Obviously some people just like the "look" and will gladly pay for the "look" in order to set their already rare cars further apart from the masses.

I don't believe you're mistaken about the factory's intentions. If I was in charge of marketing, I'd be pushing boutique options as well until I thought I'm doing more harm than good to the image of the marque. Lord knows that Aston needs to boost profits.
However, with all that said, I still can't clear my mind of a Cars & Coffee lineup consisting of winged and blinged Honda Civics, Nissan Sentras, Mitsubishi Eclipses, Subaru Legacys, Kia Rios, Hyundai Elantras, Trabants, Isettas, etcetera surrounding an Aerokitted Aston street car. Oh, the horror! Don't worry, I eventually fall back asleep. Cheers, Thomas
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Ex Boy Racer

1,151 posts

194 months

Tuesday 11th July 2017
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Tnewland said:
jonby said:
Tnewland said:
An exceedingly interesting thread in that we're talking about gilding a lily. Said lily being one of the most beautiful cars past or present not to mention being faster than about 99% of all road cars as stock. The AMR products offered at such an incredible premium are truly designed for the Walter Mitty type with pockets that approach the Marianas Trench. I, for one, am so far beyond the time (19 y.o.) when I was so obsessed with installing a Bursch extractor exhaust on my newly acquired '55 Porsche that I would skip meals in order to make it happen. I did draw the line at $75 plus tax for proper nerf bars! They looked so good but did add unwelcome weight; I just couldn't stretch the budget any more.
Anyway, I see so little return on investment that only the clutch looks rational mainly because it's OEM and there's a lot to be said for that at resale time. BTW, that clutch should have been introduced at the launch of the V8S 5 years ago as a further way to justify its higher price and higher output.
The Aerokit on any non track Aston is like a nose ring on Kristen Bell. I hope I wasn't unclear.
However, submitted for your consideration, is an option I wholeheartedly endorse as a "proper" way to enhance performance at a commensurate expense. Perhaps you've heard of the newer Ford Mustang GT350R. One of its notable features among many are its carbon fiber wheels. The cyclists among us can testify to the benefits of reducing rotating weight. We've already got CF prop shafts; these proper Aussie CF wheels made to AM specifications would be winners for those who require an actual performance boost that can be felt. The Mustang and the Aston already share the same bolt circle diameter. To conclude: Less rotating weight combined with lighter pockets! Win, win! Okay, I'll stop. Cheers, Thomas
I know this might be a controversial statement, but perhaps some people just like the way it (the aerokit) looks ?

I might be mistaken, but I thought this was just the factory offering some options for those who like them, can afford them and can justify the cost to buy them ?
Obviously some people just like the "look" and will gladly pay for the "look" in order to set their already rare cars further apart from the masses.

I don't believe you're mistaken about the factory's intentions. If I was in charge of marketing, I'd be pushing boutique options as well until I thought I'm doing more harm than good to the image of the marque. Lord knows that Aston needs to boost profits.
However, with all that said, I still can't clear my mind of a Cars & Coffee lineup consisting of winged and blinged Honda Civics, Nissan Sentras, Mitsubishi Eclipses, Subaru Legacys, Kia Rios, Hyundai Elantras, Trabants, Isettas, etcetera surrounding an Aerokitted Aston street car. Oh, the horror! Don't worry, I eventually fall back asleep. Cheers, Thomas
MAKE CALIFORNIA GREAT AGAIN!
I agree with what you're saying.

Some years ago now I indulged in a few Mitsubishi Evo's. Really great drivers cars with very noticeable aerodynamic additions. My view was that the car was such a thrill that I could put up with these, in my opinion, over the top spoilers but they were damn ugly and pretty uncouth.

Never did I think that, one day, Aston Martin would put similar things onto their beautiful cars. I guess times change and so do tastes, but I really cannot see how they improve such a timeless shape.

I feel the same about the horrible things they put on the bootlids of Lambo's, Jags etc too.

HBradley

1,037 posts

183 months

Tuesday 11th July 2017
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I'm normally pretty vociferous about aero add-ons et al to Aston Martins (ruining perfect lines, blah, blah, hurrumph etc). However, I do get it with these cars (AMR, GT8, GT12), particularly as this is the end of the line for the present Vantage & reflecting the racing pedigree that is really evocative. Let's face it who wouldn't want the feeling of driving a car that wins Le Mans?!
AM is feeding a demand & it's clear from this forum that there are plenty of takers. If it generates income & brings pleasure to the owner, then that's a very good thing!

nickv8

1,357 posts

85 months

Tuesday 11th July 2017
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RobDown

3,803 posts

130 months

Tuesday 11th July 2017
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I like a racing car look. Not on every car I own. But just one will do smile