Death of supercars
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fulham911club said:
People who rave about Monaco usually haven't spent v long there. Out of season it's a shocker, in season simply full of wannabes and old rich men with young Russian hookers. Oh and Russian oligarchs (nice bunch!). And a small studio with cost you €1m.
And before you shoot me down in flames I have a house in the adjacent bay. Trust me (1) there are far nicer tax havens and (2) far, far better places in France (or South of France)
OK I am interested - what better tax havens ? Actually I am happy to pay tax if services are good ,roads are smooth the sun shines , and ideally there is some culture/history about the place . Know southern France ( and love it ) but not the northern part of Italy adjoining .Somewhere for winter would be great - all ideas gratefully receivedAnd before you shoot me down in flames I have a house in the adjacent bay. Trust me (1) there are far nicer tax havens and (2) far, far better places in France (or South of France)
Edited by fulham911club on Saturday 19th February 16:53
Don't look to the S of France for a winter retreat. It's actually pretty cold down here from November to March, and March 2010 produced a substantial snowfall that took the area by surprise. However, it's often sunny despite the cold. Better to be here in the summer months, when sun and heat are almost guaranteed, and stay in the UK during the gloomy winter months with something to look forward to (if you have to be in the UK at all). Works for me!
polar8 said:
Southern California is hard to beat, great driving roads, perfect year round climate. I'm aiming for somehow trying to spend the 6 winter months there, goodbye 50% tax rate
Correct me if I'm wrong, but isn't California full of Americans, and isn't the speed limit about 40 yards an hour, and don't they put you on death row for exceeding it?? Doesn't anybody French have anything to say about all the economically inactive drunk, speeding British sunbathers descending on their country and forcing up the price of their Chateaux, bringing their luke warm beers and pointlessly accurate time keeping to challenge the natural order of things?
What will our economic migrants say when M Le Pen's daughter and her mates turn up with the fire and pitch forks?
Anybody can avoid tax; just find somewhere else to live. Just don't then moan about either:
a) The country the benefits of which you availed yourself of but are not prepared to finance, or;
b) people who are poorer than you (for lots of reasons including luck and effort) and don't have your choices
Honestly, right wing reactionaries, you couldn't make some of this stuff up, and God knows I have tried.
What will our economic migrants say when M Le Pen's daughter and her mates turn up with the fire and pitch forks?
Anybody can avoid tax; just find somewhere else to live. Just don't then moan about either:
a) The country the benefits of which you availed yourself of but are not prepared to finance, or;
b) people who are poorer than you (for lots of reasons including luck and effort) and don't have your choices
Honestly, right wing reactionaries, you couldn't make some of this stuff up, and God knows I have tried.
f328nvl said:
Doesn't anybody French have anything to say about all the economically inactive drunk, speeding British sunbathers descending on their country and forcing up the price of their Chateaux, bringing their luke warm beers and pointlessly accurate time keeping to challenge the natural order of things?
What will our economic migrants say when M Le Pen's daughter and her mates turn up with the fire and pitch forks?
Anybody can avoid tax; just find somewhere else to live. Just don't then moan about either:
a) The country the benefits of which you availed yourself of but are not prepared to finance, or;
b) people who are poorer than you (for lots of reasons including luck and effort) and don't have your choices
Honestly, right wing reactionaries, you couldn't make some of this stuff up, and God knows I have tried.
I say Brigadier, club run out of your favourite port? What will our economic migrants say when M Le Pen's daughter and her mates turn up with the fire and pitch forks?
Anybody can avoid tax; just find somewhere else to live. Just don't then moan about either:
a) The country the benefits of which you availed yourself of but are not prepared to finance, or;
b) people who are poorer than you (for lots of reasons including luck and effort) and don't have your choices
Honestly, right wing reactionaries, you couldn't make some of this stuff up, and God knows I have tried.
f328nvl said:
Doesn't anybody French have anything to say about all the economically inactive drunk, speeding British sunbathers descending on their country and forcing up the price of their Chateaux, bringing their luke warm beers and pointlessly accurate time keeping to challenge the natural order of things?
What will our economic migrants say when M Le Pen's daughter and her mates turn up with the fire and pitch forks?
Anybody can avoid tax; just find somewhere else to live. Just don't then moan about either:
a) The country the benefits of which you availed yourself of but are not prepared to finance, or;
b) people who are poorer than you (for lots of reasons including luck and effort) and don't have your choices
Honestly, right wing reactionaries, you couldn't make some of this stuff up, and God knows I have tried.
Very happy to pretend I am French once a year - , sunbathing ,5 hour lunches , ignore speed cops and all other forms of authority ,but would find permanent residence activities more difficult - striking for a 30 hour week and permanent employment for my family forever whether or not they work,shopping your neighbours to the tax authorities if they have a flash car,wealth tax etc - actually come to think of it not so different from here now What will our economic migrants say when M Le Pen's daughter and her mates turn up with the fire and pitch forks?
Anybody can avoid tax; just find somewhere else to live. Just don't then moan about either:
a) The country the benefits of which you availed yourself of but are not prepared to finance, or;
b) people who are poorer than you (for lots of reasons including luck and effort) and don't have your choices
Honestly, right wing reactionaries, you couldn't make some of this stuff up, and God knows I have tried.
Oh yes I remember the difference - the French do actually spend the tax you pay on decent roads - we don't.
Personally I think reactionaries get a bad press now that the world is run - very badly -by Guardian readers in corduroy romper suits who want to control our lives for us because they know better.
polar8 said:
Southern California is hard to beat, great driving roads, perfect year round climate. I'm aiming for somehow trying to spend the 6 winter months there, goodbye 50% tax rate
All you have to do is ignore the traffic, earthquakes, fires, mud slides, and riots. Not to mention lots of very strange people.Jay_Davis said:
polar8 said:
Southern California is hard to beat, great driving roads, perfect year round climate. I'm aiming for somehow trying to spend the 6 winter months there, goodbye 50% tax rate
All you have to do is ignore the traffic, earthquakes, fires, mud slides, and riots. Not to mention lots of very strange people.Simpo Two said:
There are certain (bicycle-using socialists in local government) who see bad roads as self-enforcing speed limits.
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