Aston Martin Virage.

Aston Martin Virage.

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mikey k

13,014 posts

218 months

Wednesday 23rd February 2011
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Same stunt as the Vantage S frown
Come on guys move the Halo 1-77 stuff down the range in to something new

Valentin

3,189 posts

217 months

Wednesday 23rd February 2011
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I really do like the rapide lights, but I'm no fan of the new front bumper.
Also why didn't they just call it DB9 ( MY12)? Using the Virage name doesn't bother me, but why didn't they wait until they have a new model for a new name?

blackice1

329 posts

172 months

Wednesday 23rd February 2011
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mikey k said:
Same stunt as the Vantage S frown
Come on guys move the Halo 1-77 stuff down the range in to something new
The Vantage S isnt a stunt , it is a completely different car , and i must say a amazing one after driving one round millbrook for the day.

GlynV8

325 posts

173 months

Wednesday 23rd February 2011
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More details and pictures here:
http://www.autocar.co.uk/News/NewsArticle/AllCars/...

I see that it is a new SatNav unit too. I wonder what software it is running?

Zod

35,295 posts

260 months

Wednesday 23rd February 2011
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Garmin apparently.

mikey k

13,014 posts

218 months

Wednesday 23rd February 2011
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blackice1 said:
The Vantage S isnt a stunt , it is a completely different car , and i must say a amazing one after driving one round millbrook for the day.
Like the Virage is completely different as well wink
The S is a current 4.7 with one more gear in the box, a few mm & 2 pistons on the brakes, a few more ponies and talks. Oh and a few bits from the V12 and options list wink
Biggest difference is the sudden jump in the number of electronic aids!

Don't get me wrong it's a good car, but as someone in the target market I'm not remotely interested.
I'm going to stick with my 4.7 with sports pack wink
until the V12 roadster actually becomes reality cloud9 )

BTW it is good to see an AM employee fighting the corner wink

MichaelV8V

650 posts

263 months

Wednesday 23rd February 2011
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Theres a few things I like about the Virage that show the way forward across the range. The new lights presumably include DRLs, which will be needed across Europe soon, so we might see them fitted to Vantages before too long. The styling tweaks balance the longer lights, and the more angular 'edgy' lines on the car bring it up to date, without having to change the whole body.

Some nice touches inside, particularly the Garmin satnav, and much better looking seat adjusters that suddenly make the old ones look cheap.

More power and ceramic brakes are always good.

Overall the car looks a bit more modern, its a bit better dynamically, and whilst we might all recognise it as a parts bin upgrade, it gives all the mags a reason to do another Aston Martin feature so helps sales across the range.

hartley

704 posts

201 months

Wednesday 23rd February 2011
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I think the game is ' How many ways can you cook an egg ' Aston badly needs an injection of cash to develop new models before we have to endure a DB9 golf cart - at least the swans egg is trying to achieve something different.

Throttle Body

447 posts

175 months

Wednesday 23rd February 2011
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The Virage is beautiful .... but they now make three cars which look just the same. I'd like to see more variety (but the Cygnet goes too far!).

blackice1

329 posts

172 months

Thursday 24th February 2011
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mikey k said:
Like the Virage is completely different as well wink
The S is a current 4.7 with one more gear in the box, a few mm & 2 pistons on the brakes, a few more ponies and talks. Oh and a few bits from the V12 and options list wink
Biggest difference is the sudden jump in the number of electronic aids!

Don't get me wrong it's a good car, but as someone in the target market I'm not remotely interested.
I'm going to stick with my 4.7 with sports pack wink
until the V12 roadster actually becomes reality cloud9 )

BTW it is good to see an AM employee fighting the corner wink
Well Thank you Mikey.

By the way you have missed alot more differences than that, and the will not be a V12 roadster sorry.

All i can say is when available go drive one , as i did back to back testing against a N420 and the Vantage S , and the difference is massive.

Siy

459 posts

221 months

Thursday 24th February 2011
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blackice1 said:
and the will not be a V12 roadster sorry.
Noooooooooooooooooooooooooooooo!!!!!!

silverspeed

1,505 posts

232 months

Thursday 24th February 2011
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Was told aswell there will not be a V12R as there is not enough demand !! Think that implies sales of V12V have been slower than anticipated.

Trommel

19,250 posts

261 months

Thursday 24th February 2011
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Unless I'm missing something, this is an entirely pointless car and certainly doesn't warrant a new name.

whoami

13,151 posts

242 months

Friday 25th February 2011
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blackice1 said:
mikey k said:
Same stunt as the Vantage S frown
Come on guys move the Halo 1-77 stuff down the range in to something new
The Vantage S isnt a stunt , it is a completely different car , and i must say a amazing one after driving one round millbrook for the day.
hehe

cardigankid

8,849 posts

214 months

Friday 25th February 2011
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What they have definately done is to pick up on some of the subtle styling changes on the Rapide which is a much more elegant thing than a DB9 from the front. I'm not sure about the sidestrakes - I think that they are a little too close to a 6-series BMW (who were busy trying to get as close as they could to the Aston without breaching copyright.) Drive it and see, i suppose must be the answer. This could be a really beautiful thing is some of the subtler shades with a nice rich interior.

Edited by cardigankid on Friday 25th February 16:27

Murph7355

37,945 posts

258 months

Friday 25th February 2011
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Valentin said:
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Also why didn't they just call it DB9 ( MY12)? Using the Virage name doesn't bother me, but why didn't they wait until they have a new model for a new name?
It seems to be increasingly evident that the people who decide such things have zero awareness of the "brand" and it's marketing. Or the history of the firm.

The front lights were my least favourite part of the DB9, so that change is welcome (there's no way these lights would work on the V8 - too long). The rest, though, are just bits that should have been changed years ago.

I fear Aston are in trouble. No truly new product seems to be on the horizon, and like a few others have noted the constant rehashing of the old (but admittedly very good) product is going to do them no favours.

I'll be looking to change my V8V in the next 24mths or so. I love much to do with the marque - the service I've received from my main dealer; the car; the "Aston" experience. But I really cannot see me buying another at this rate. I may give a DBS a go, but the V12V (let alone the 'S', N420, Edition Black etc) isn't different enough to the V8V I have in those intangible ways that make buying a car at this end of the market "sensible". And the "Virage" is...a DB9 with new front lights.

I suspect I'll be going back Italian for a bit until/if Aston deliver something new that's as good as the V8V was 6yrs ago...or the DB9 was 8yrs ago.

cardigankid

8,849 posts

214 months

Thursday 3rd March 2011
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Also, guys, I think that you are missing something here.

Apart from the technological advances, and if we accept what Aston say, which seems to be that this car delivers the performance and handling of the DBS is a less WRC manner, the Virage is a step towards delivering equally fast but sexier more curvaceous Aston Martins (characterized in the past by the 4, 5 and 6).

The DB9 and even more so the DBS are taut and hard edged designs. The Virage is flowing, with its bigger hips and softer nose detailing. This is a gorgeous looking car, and I would have one in a nanosecond givwen the funds. This is a big step forward.

By contrast, Jaguar with the XKRS looks as if it is taking a major step in the wrong direction, which I greatly regret.

Shmee

7,565 posts

215 months

Thursday 3rd March 2011
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whoami

13,151 posts

242 months

Thursday 3rd March 2011
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What did you think?

Shmee

7,565 posts

215 months

Thursday 3rd March 2011
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whoami said:
What did you think?
Not going to lie, just looked like another DB9, I think they should have called it something else rather than re-use the Virage name yet.