V8 Vantage - what's it really like?
Discussion
Jon39 said:
None of us like paying the high prices charged for Aston Martin parts.
We have seen mentioned on here, examples of £600 for a suspension spring, and I think over £1,000 for a headlight (when supposedly just one cheap electronic component inside has failed).
I do though, have some sympathy for the circumstances.
Aston Martin struggle to sell cars in large numbers, so all costs are spread amongst relatively few customers.
I don't know how many thousands of F-type Jaguars are being sold, but the JLR group last year sold 621,109 vehicles. It is 'another world'. Selling just 5,000 Aston Martins, with only a few of those customers needing a headlight, probably illustrates the temptation to charge high prices for spare parts.
From a dealer point of view, it also cannot be easy to finance the running of a smart showroom and workshop. An expensive corporate image is demanded, but with relatively few sales. Each time that I visit a dealer, I have usually been the only 'customer' in the building, and only a few of my visits have ever involved handing over money.
Is the point being made, slightly akin to the £30 bottle of wine in a smart restaurant, when somebody says, "that is riduculous, it is only £7 in a supermarket?
Edited by Jon39 on Thursday 26th July 11:56
However it's a bit chicken and egg.
On PH owners give negative comments that may well put off prospective purchasers from buying a certain brand of car.
Therefore sales are going to be affected by those reviews.
Take the McClaren for example
On that forum the wisdom is that you MUST take out the expensive warranty as something is bound to go wrong and need a very expensive fix.
Frankly that might put me off buying the car.
Astons in the main are pretty reliable but if I was thinking about buying a Vantage some comments on this thread would make me very cautious.
davek_964 said:
I'm not convinced. Do Ferrari really sell so many more cars than AM that it explains a spring costing ~£80 from Ferrari and ~£600 from Aston?
I'm going to stick my neck out here, but perhaps every component should be compared and an average made before we fixate ourselves on one part.If a Scuderia shield on the wing "goes missing" on a Ferrari and you walk into the dealer asking for a new one, will it be £80 to replace? Let alone some of the more advanced parts of their highly strung engines.
But if I bought a Ferrari out of warranty, I'd be expected to have a good chunk of £££ tucked away for those occasions. Does it make Ferrari bad?
nickv8 said:
I'm going to stick my neck out here, but perhaps every component should be compared and an average made before we fixate ourselves on one part.
If a Scuderia shield on the wing "goes missing" on a Ferrari and you walk into the dealer asking for a new one, will it be £80 to replace? Let alone some of the more advanced parts of their highly strung engines.
But if I bought a Ferrari out of warranty, I'd be expected to have a good chunk of £££ tucked away for those occasions. Does it make Ferrari bad?
I think that £80 is quite reasonable actually.If a Scuderia shield on the wing "goes missing" on a Ferrari and you walk into the dealer asking for a new one, will it be £80 to replace? Let alone some of the more advanced parts of their highly strung engines.
But if I bought a Ferrari out of warranty, I'd be expected to have a good chunk of £££ tucked away for those occasions. Does it make Ferrari bad?
Most of us buy from a MD as we expect the car to be fairly well sorted out, not always the case ,but at least you've got someone to go back to if there's a problem.
Once again not all MDs are good but the bad ones are normally known and avoided.
A warranty for the first year of ownership is a prudent precaution.
I went for a drive with some friends at the weekend, one of whom has an F430 Spider that he bought last year. When asked if it was following the rule of thumb that annual running costs are 10% of the car's original list price, he just said "more" and wouldn't be drawn on a number.
So just as it's unfair to tar all Astons based on your car, I think it's also unfair to claim Ferraris are cheaper, just based on your car. Have you needed a new timing belt on the 360 for example ?
I've had my Vantage for a year now and apart from a thermostat (which is a £30 Jag part and I fitted it myself) it's behaved impeccably.
And my 996 hasn't eaten its own engine.
I must be doing something wrong !
So just as it's unfair to tar all Astons based on your car, I think it's also unfair to claim Ferraris are cheaper, just based on your car. Have you needed a new timing belt on the 360 for example ?
I've had my Vantage for a year now and apart from a thermostat (which is a £30 Jag part and I fitted it myself) it's behaved impeccably.
And my 996 hasn't eaten its own engine.
I must be doing something wrong !
sundayjumper said:
So just as it's unfair to tar all Astons based on your car, I think it's also unfair to claim Ferraris are cheaper, just based on your car. Have you needed a new timing belt on the 360 for example ?
Yes - this years service was a major. Hence, rather than the ~£1k it usually costs me for a minor, it was £1,775. Not really excessive when it happens every 3 years.ETA : I think it's worth clarifying the "tar'ing all Astons based on my car".
As I've said a few times, I don't think my car is particularly unreliable. But there are common issues on these cars - and the reality is that if you suffer them - most of them are far from cheap to put right. Having suffered two of them in a fairly short period it has caused my view to be slightly negative.
I'm sure it will pass (or I'll sell the car) but some of the Aston parts prices are eye watering - more than I found in a Porsche, and more than I've found in two different Ferrari's.
Edited by davek_964 on Thursday 26th July 13:29
Ferrari also make cars in a very different fashion. The parts-bin concept is the same, but it's clear there's a big difference. I remember how everyone went crazy when it was discovered the early V8V key fob was a leather-wrapped Volvo unit. Ever been in a Ferrari F430? It's a bunch of seriously low-grade Fiat switchgear in there. They aren't nice cars at all. They're built with a specific performance threshold in mind, which they do and do very well. But to reach that they have to stress the cars out to their max, and that wears out components more quickly, thus the outrageous cost of ownership. We don't have to deal with that in Astons because they're meant to be driven further and more often. Ferraris are money pits on a whole other level compared to Astons, but they're nothing special unless you're ragging the car out on the track or driving recklessly on the street. I'd rather have a car I can drive normally and appreciate all the more for it, which is why I love Astons and would never consider buying a Ferrari.
AML is also trying to build a brand to compete with Ferrari's brand, but there's an inherent problem in that *generally* Ferrari owners are people that want to flash their money, and Aston owners aren't. Meanwhile, people that want to flash money they don't have are more likely to buy merchandise with Ferrari logos than they would buy something with an Aston logo. That's why you'll see kids running around with Ferrari clothes, hats, shoes, laptops, key chains, phone cases, and on and on and on... ever been into a Ferrari shop? Not a dealership, but the shops that sell 'stuff'...? Anything you can imagine can be had with a Ferrari logo on it, and Ferrari makes a ton of money from those sales. People that want to act like they've got a lot of money buy Ferrari swag in bulk, and flashing that junk around for everyone to see advertises for Ferrari. Aston's conservative market is nothing like that.
The Ferrari comparison is meaningful, but it's apples to oranges. At the end of the day, some people like apples, some people like oranges. Some people like both, some people like neither. Regardless, they're two different things.
Last thing... AML doesn't have the scales of economy that other manufacturers have. It's a very, very small business within its industry. The people that work there put a lot of heart and soul into the cars and are doing the best they can with their limited resources. At the end of the day, it's still a business and a business has to make money to survive. Aston Martin can only go bust so many times before it folds itself out existence. For the brand to survive, people have to buy the cars, pay for repairs, and understand that a small manufacturer can't get everything perfect. The small annoyances are things that I can live with because the cars still make me happy enough to overlook them. Nothing has been so catastrophic that it's been a dealbreaker for me and made me want to leave the brand (like I've had with my Toyota). And I know enough people throughout AML to know the people at the company do care, and I've yet to meet a single person that's made me feel like they were only in it to make money regardless of the effect on owners, potential owners, or anyone else. I've been a rather vocal critic when I felt it necessary (like that "saving weight from the nose with the giant dumb fascia on the New Vantage" bullsh!t) and yet I've never been told to p
s off or made to feel anything but welcome by AML and its employees (and executives... and dealerships... and owners groups...).
Just my opinion, of course.
Oh, and McLarens are absolute bonkers cars, amazing things to drive, but I've heard horror stories about their build quality and reliability.
AML is also trying to build a brand to compete with Ferrari's brand, but there's an inherent problem in that *generally* Ferrari owners are people that want to flash their money, and Aston owners aren't. Meanwhile, people that want to flash money they don't have are more likely to buy merchandise with Ferrari logos than they would buy something with an Aston logo. That's why you'll see kids running around with Ferrari clothes, hats, shoes, laptops, key chains, phone cases, and on and on and on... ever been into a Ferrari shop? Not a dealership, but the shops that sell 'stuff'...? Anything you can imagine can be had with a Ferrari logo on it, and Ferrari makes a ton of money from those sales. People that want to act like they've got a lot of money buy Ferrari swag in bulk, and flashing that junk around for everyone to see advertises for Ferrari. Aston's conservative market is nothing like that.
The Ferrari comparison is meaningful, but it's apples to oranges. At the end of the day, some people like apples, some people like oranges. Some people like both, some people like neither. Regardless, they're two different things.
Last thing... AML doesn't have the scales of economy that other manufacturers have. It's a very, very small business within its industry. The people that work there put a lot of heart and soul into the cars and are doing the best they can with their limited resources. At the end of the day, it's still a business and a business has to make money to survive. Aston Martin can only go bust so many times before it folds itself out existence. For the brand to survive, people have to buy the cars, pay for repairs, and understand that a small manufacturer can't get everything perfect. The small annoyances are things that I can live with because the cars still make me happy enough to overlook them. Nothing has been so catastrophic that it's been a dealbreaker for me and made me want to leave the brand (like I've had with my Toyota). And I know enough people throughout AML to know the people at the company do care, and I've yet to meet a single person that's made me feel like they were only in it to make money regardless of the effect on owners, potential owners, or anyone else. I've been a rather vocal critic when I felt it necessary (like that "saving weight from the nose with the giant dumb fascia on the New Vantage" bullsh!t) and yet I've never been told to p
s off or made to feel anything but welcome by AML and its employees (and executives... and dealerships... and owners groups...).Just my opinion, of course.
Oh, and McLarens are absolute bonkers cars, amazing things to drive, but I've heard horror stories about their build quality and reliability.
telum01 said:
Ferrari also make cars in a very different fashion. The parts-bin concept is the same, but it's clear there's a big difference. I remember how everyone went crazy when it was discovered the early V8V key fob was a leather-wrapped Volvo unit. Ever been in a Ferrari F430? It's a bunch of seriously low-grade Fiat switchgear in there. They aren't nice cars at all. They're built with a specific performance threshold in mind, which they do and do very well. But to reach that they have to stress the cars out to their max, and that wears out components more quickly, thus the outrageous cost of ownership. We don't have to deal with that in Astons because they're meant to be driven further and more often. Ferraris are money pits on a whole other level compared to Astons, but they're nothing special unless you're ragging the car out on the track or driving recklessly on the street. I'd rather have a car I can drive normally and appreciate all the more for it, which is why I love Astons and would never consider buying a Ferrari.
AML is also trying to build a brand to compete with Ferrari's brand, but there's an inherent problem in that *generally* Ferrari owners are people that want to flash their money, and Aston owners aren't. Meanwhile, people that want to flash money they don't have are more likely to buy merchandise with Ferrari logos than they would buy something with an Aston logo. That's why you'll see kids running around with Ferrari clothes, hats, shoes, laptops, key chains, phone cases, and on and on and on... ever been into a Ferrari shop? Not a dealership, but the shops that sell 'stuff'...? Anything you can imagine can be had with a Ferrari logo on it, and Ferrari makes a ton of money from those sales. People that want to act like they've got a lot of money buy Ferrari swag in bulk, and flashing that junk around for everyone to see advertises for Ferrari. Aston's conservative market is nothing like that.
The Ferrari comparison is meaningful, but it's apples to oranges. At the end of the day, some people like apples, some people like oranges. Some people like both, some people like neither. Regardless, they're two different things.
Last thing... AML doesn't have the scales of economy that other manufacturers have. It's a very, very small business within its industry. The people that work there put a lot of heart and soul into the cars and are doing the best they can with their limited resources. At the end of the day, it's still a business and a business has to make money to survive. Aston Martin can only go bust so many times before it folds itself out existence. For the brand to survive, people have to buy the cars, pay for repairs, and understand that a small manufacturer can't get everything perfect. The small annoyances are things that I can live with because the cars still make me happy enough to overlook them. Nothing has been so catastrophic that it's been a dealbreaker for me and made me want to leave the brand (like I've had with my Toyota). And I know enough people throughout AML to know the people at the company do care, and I've yet to meet a single person that's made me feel like they were only in it to make money regardless of the effect on owners, potential owners, or anyone else. I've been a rather vocal critic when I felt it necessary (like that "saving weight from the nose with the giant dumb fascia on the New Vantage" bullsh!t) and yet I've never been told to ps off or made to feel anything but welcome by AML and its employees (and executives... and dealerships... and owners groups...).
Just my opinion, of course.
Oh, and McLarens are absolute bonkers cars, amazing things to drive, but I've heard horror stories about their build quality and reliability.
Very well put.AML is also trying to build a brand to compete with Ferrari's brand, but there's an inherent problem in that *generally* Ferrari owners are people that want to flash their money, and Aston owners aren't. Meanwhile, people that want to flash money they don't have are more likely to buy merchandise with Ferrari logos than they would buy something with an Aston logo. That's why you'll see kids running around with Ferrari clothes, hats, shoes, laptops, key chains, phone cases, and on and on and on... ever been into a Ferrari shop? Not a dealership, but the shops that sell 'stuff'...? Anything you can imagine can be had with a Ferrari logo on it, and Ferrari makes a ton of money from those sales. People that want to act like they've got a lot of money buy Ferrari swag in bulk, and flashing that junk around for everyone to see advertises for Ferrari. Aston's conservative market is nothing like that.
The Ferrari comparison is meaningful, but it's apples to oranges. At the end of the day, some people like apples, some people like oranges. Some people like both, some people like neither. Regardless, they're two different things.
Last thing... AML doesn't have the scales of economy that other manufacturers have. It's a very, very small business within its industry. The people that work there put a lot of heart and soul into the cars and are doing the best they can with their limited resources. At the end of the day, it's still a business and a business has to make money to survive. Aston Martin can only go bust so many times before it folds itself out existence. For the brand to survive, people have to buy the cars, pay for repairs, and understand that a small manufacturer can't get everything perfect. The small annoyances are things that I can live with because the cars still make me happy enough to overlook them. Nothing has been so catastrophic that it's been a dealbreaker for me and made me want to leave the brand (like I've had with my Toyota). And I know enough people throughout AML to know the people at the company do care, and I've yet to meet a single person that's made me feel like they were only in it to make money regardless of the effect on owners, potential owners, or anyone else. I've been a rather vocal critic when I felt it necessary (like that "saving weight from the nose with the giant dumb fascia on the New Vantage" bullsh!t) and yet I've never been told to p
s off or made to feel anything but welcome by AML and its employees (and executives... and dealerships... and owners groups...).Just my opinion, of course.
Oh, and McLarens are absolute bonkers cars, amazing things to drive, but I've heard horror stories about their build quality and reliability.
I think the easiest way to compare likely running costs is through the cost of a warranty. One year on an AML will typically cost £1500-2000. One year on a McLaren is £4-5k
Maybe someone can tell us what a 1 year Ferrari warranty would cost on say a 458? I have no idea never being a prancing horse guy
RobDown said:
Maybe someone can tell us what a 1 year Ferrari warranty would cost on say a 458? I have no idea never being a prancing horse guy
A quick search of the Dancing Donkey forum would suggest it's about £3.5-£4k, or was a few years ago. 
https://www.pistonheads.com/gassing/topic.asp?h=0&...
How much is a clutch in a V8 Ferrari or Lambo V10 ? £3500 to £8k ...and are you lucky to get 30k miles out them ?
Overall my Vantages have cost less to run that other mainstream cars Ive owned, like Audi and Range Rover. Of course you can get a bad one, or you may own a used car at a time in its life when a few common faults happen AND it needs consumables. Its easy to have a "bad year" and £5k of service work (say when the clutch is due, couple of wheel bearings and a service) and occasionally Ive had a "good year" when all its had is a fixed price £650 service.
I can understand people getting fed up of it though if you buy a car and over 2 years do nothing but spend money on it before you get rid of it .....but think of the next guy who may own it for a few years and its perfect (because you spent the money on it) he has a great experience of the brand. Over say 10 years and 3 owners, their individual experiences may be quite different, depending on luck, mileage etc.....
Overall my Vantages have cost less to run that other mainstream cars Ive owned, like Audi and Range Rover. Of course you can get a bad one, or you may own a used car at a time in its life when a few common faults happen AND it needs consumables. Its easy to have a "bad year" and £5k of service work (say when the clutch is due, couple of wheel bearings and a service) and occasionally Ive had a "good year" when all its had is a fixed price £650 service.
I can understand people getting fed up of it though if you buy a car and over 2 years do nothing but spend money on it before you get rid of it .....but think of the next guy who may own it for a few years and its perfect (because you spent the money on it) he has a great experience of the brand. Over say 10 years and 3 owners, their individual experiences may be quite different, depending on luck, mileage etc.....
^ these last comments.
Nothing in the world is perfect. But AM as a product and brand is currently justifying its expense for me. In a big way. Let’s hope this is the same for the majority and genuine condolences for those who don’t get an overall benefit - better luck next time, whatever the marque.
Nothing in the world is perfect. But AM as a product and brand is currently justifying its expense for me. In a big way. Let’s hope this is the same for the majority and genuine condolences for those who don’t get an overall benefit - better luck next time, whatever the marque.
DanL said:
Slight thread hijack, but how has your R8 been to run? Was it reliable?
Yes, with the minor caveat that in the last month I discovered a tiny oil leak from the oil cooler pipe at the rear which necessitated £1k of work to replace with an updated component that won't rub against the power steering hose and corrode.Otherwise it's been faultless in terms of reliability.
Harry Flashman said:
I'd rather by an R8 though, personally. The early V10, with running, insurance and servicing costs below the V8V (!!), is a conspicuous bargain at the moment.
That's what I've got. It's beautifully made, extremely fast and looks sensational but it's totally soulless. However, I'm in a small minority in feeling this way about it and I'm aware that these issues fall into the "wallet's too small for my fifties and my diamond shoes are too tight" category of first-world problems.My experience with it is that it needs to be caned within an inch of its life to get it to 'wake up', as it were; at anything less than maximum attack, it could be a diesel A4. If you wring it out in 1st and 2nd, you're already well over the NSL. Top of 3rd takes you deep into instant ban territory, and there's just so few opportunities to really use that kind of performance outside of my yearly pilgrimage to the north Highlands of Scotland that most of the time I end up having to short-shift and the car goes back to sleep.
It's not helped by an engine noise inside the cabin that's very harsh and mechanical and lacking in soul, which is strange for a V10. It sounds much better from outside, but that's not much good for the driver!
I wanted to sell the R8 and move onto a 4.7 V8V, which I'd (perhaps foolishly) hoped would have more of a personality, a better exhaust note, and would feel more special at sane speeds. However, the R8 sale's just fallen through and I'm so tired and frustrated of dealing with clowns from the classifieds that I've lost the will to sell it myself right now.
martyspain said:
That's what I've got. It's beautifully made, extremely fast and looks sensational but it's totally soulless. However, I'm in a small minority in feeling this way about it and I'm aware that these issues fall into the "wallet's too small for my fifties and my diamond shoes are too tight" category of first-world problems.
My experience with it is that it needs to be caned within an inch of its life to get it to 'wake up', as it were; at anything less than maximum attack, it could be a diesel A4. If you wring it out in 1st and 2nd, you're already well over the NSL. Top of 3rd takes you deep into instant ban territory, and there's just so few opportunities to really use that kind of performance outside of my yearly pilgrimage to the north Highlands of Scotland that most of the time I end up having to short-shift and the car goes back to sleep.
It's not helped by an engine noise inside the cabin that's very harsh and mechanical and lacking in soul, which is strange for a V10. It sounds much better from outside, but that's not much good for the driver!
I wanted to sell the R8 and move onto a 4.7 V8V, which I'd (perhaps foolishly) hoped would have more of a personality, a better exhaust note, and would feel more special at sane speeds. However, the R8 sale's just fallen through and I'm so tired and frustrated of dealing with clowns from the classifieds that I've lost the will to sell it myself right now.
I had a 996 turbo before the Vantage, and your description of the R8 is very close to how I'd describe that.My experience with it is that it needs to be caned within an inch of its life to get it to 'wake up', as it were; at anything less than maximum attack, it could be a diesel A4. If you wring it out in 1st and 2nd, you're already well over the NSL. Top of 3rd takes you deep into instant ban territory, and there's just so few opportunities to really use that kind of performance outside of my yearly pilgrimage to the north Highlands of Scotland that most of the time I end up having to short-shift and the car goes back to sleep.
It's not helped by an engine noise inside the cabin that's very harsh and mechanical and lacking in soul, which is strange for a V10. It sounds much better from outside, but that's not much good for the driver!
I wanted to sell the R8 and move onto a 4.7 V8V, which I'd (perhaps foolishly) hoped would have more of a personality, a better exhaust note, and would feel more special at sane speeds. However, the R8 sale's just fallen through and I'm so tired and frustrated of dealing with clowns from the classifieds that I've lost the will to sell it myself right now.
In my experience, the Vantage does give you those things.
davek_964 said:
I had a 996 turbo before the Vantage, and your description of the R8 is very close to how I'd describe that.
In my experience, the Vantage does give you those things.
Heh, me too! I think I preferred the 996 to the R8, though mine was tuned by Nine Excellence to give more power and better braking. I sold it because the interior was getting incredibly rattly, the miles were very high and the market seemed to have reached a peak.In my experience, the Vantage does give you those things.
martyspain said:
I wanted to sell the R8 and move onto a 4.7 V8V, which I'd (perhaps foolishly) hoped would have more of a personality, a better exhaust note, and would feel more special at sane speeds. However, the R8 sale's just fallen through.....
You'd be right to assume that, I've owned a V10 R8 I felt exactly the same way as you. The Aston, although considerably slower has masses more personality and feels much more special.So, well overdue an update I guess.
Summary of the previous update is probably : Locks were playing up, I was getting tired of the expense of fixing things on the Vantage, my Ferrari is more reliable and cheaper to maintain than my Aston. This was not a popular opinion, and I think some people assumed I murder puppies as a hobby.
The Aston is still here, and at least for now there are no plans to change that. The door locks are now working all the time as far as I can tell (I check occasionally, but they are reliable enough that I gave up checking every time). New battery in the remote really did solve it for me.
Heated seat still hasn't been fixed - I am reluctant to take the car somewhere just to get that done, and because the service gets done around March time it seems pointless paying for it to be fixed just before the spring / summer.....
I replaced the hand brake pads - don't think I've updated since doing them - and it was fairly painless. Although the generic tool I have for winding the calipers back didn't really quite fit. It has many sized attachments, and did have one the correct size - but the pins really didn't want to sit in the holes. It was just about good enough to wind them back though, since they weren't stiff.
While adjusting the cables after that, I managed to trap my finger between the spoke and the brake caliper while making sure the wheel still spun. Ouch - and minus one fingernail.
Apart from that, it's all been very painless. I can't think of anything that has gone wrong with the car since the last update. It's odd that previous years I've favoured it over the Cayenne when winter arrived, but this year I seem to prefer the Cayenne - maybe I'm just getting older!
Some good news : I posted in the Spring that I'd blown two tyres and damaged a wheel when hitting a pothole. The council (or actually the company they use to repair roads) has just admitted liability - and will pay my costs (-5% for betterment).
Will update again in a few months, or sooner if anything unexpected happens.
Summary of the previous update is probably : Locks were playing up, I was getting tired of the expense of fixing things on the Vantage, my Ferrari is more reliable and cheaper to maintain than my Aston. This was not a popular opinion, and I think some people assumed I murder puppies as a hobby.
The Aston is still here, and at least for now there are no plans to change that. The door locks are now working all the time as far as I can tell (I check occasionally, but they are reliable enough that I gave up checking every time). New battery in the remote really did solve it for me.
Heated seat still hasn't been fixed - I am reluctant to take the car somewhere just to get that done, and because the service gets done around March time it seems pointless paying for it to be fixed just before the spring / summer.....
I replaced the hand brake pads - don't think I've updated since doing them - and it was fairly painless. Although the generic tool I have for winding the calipers back didn't really quite fit. It has many sized attachments, and did have one the correct size - but the pins really didn't want to sit in the holes. It was just about good enough to wind them back though, since they weren't stiff.
While adjusting the cables after that, I managed to trap my finger between the spoke and the brake caliper while making sure the wheel still spun. Ouch - and minus one fingernail.
Apart from that, it's all been very painless. I can't think of anything that has gone wrong with the car since the last update. It's odd that previous years I've favoured it over the Cayenne when winter arrived, but this year I seem to prefer the Cayenne - maybe I'm just getting older!
Some good news : I posted in the Spring that I'd blown two tyres and damaged a wheel when hitting a pothole. The council (or actually the company they use to repair roads) has just admitted liability - and will pay my costs (-5% for betterment).
Will update again in a few months, or sooner if anything unexpected happens.
I've had some problems with my V8V and cannot praise AML enough for the service they are giving. Heads and shoulders I'm sure above what other manufacturers may attempt. They wish to, and are succeeding in regaining my confidence in the brand. Also, it is still an achingly beautiful car inside and out.
macdeb said:
I've had some problems with my V8V and cannot praise AML enough for the service they are giving. Heads and shoulders I'm sure above what other manufacturers may attempt. They wish to, and are succeeding in regaining my confidence in the brand. Also, it is still an achingly beautiful car inside and out.
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