Vantage AMR

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Derek007

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124 posts

160 months

Friday 11th August 2017
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AdamV12V said:
So have they now confirmed you can have Q mods with Halo? I'm interested because I was clearly told that was taboo!
Q have come back with a quote for the mods but I haven't finalised yet. I would be disappointed if they didn't honour it.

IanV12VR

2,749 posts

157 months

Friday 11th August 2017
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Bincenzo said:
LordBretSinclair said:
IanV12VR said:
Can't believe I'm buying such a common car, I told my wife it would be very rare eek
You also told your wife that your (now departed) V12VR was a "keeper" !!!!!!!!! rofl
Well, I for one am very glad it's not....
biglaugh and here's me very pleased that she is going to a great home.


Edited by IanV12VR on Friday 11th August 21:29

RobDown

3,803 posts

130 months

Saturday 12th August 2017
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AdamV8V: V12 // Roadster // Manual // Scintilla & Ceramic
Jonby: V12 // Roadster // Manual // Q - TBC
CheckSix: V12 // Coupe // Manual // Q Red & Gold
RobD: V12 // Roadster // Manual // halo
Vince1972: V12 // Coupe // Manual // Scintilla Silver Paint Q Special
Derek V12 // Coupe // Manual // Q TBC Halo
IanV12VR: V12 // Roadster // Manual // Q - TBC
NeinFondue V12 // Roadster // Manual // Q - TBC Scintilla & Ceramic
Kizzz: V12 // Coupe // Manual // Halo
Silverspeed:V12//Roadster//Manual//Q - TBC
magarnett//V12//Coupe//Manual//Halo
Stratstone2//v12//coupe/SS3//Halo

That's the current spec of the second London Stratstone car. Going to be rare I think with the Sportshift transmission

mafisher

87 posts

120 months

Sunday 13th August 2017
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[quote=RobDown]AdamV8V: V12 // Roadster // Manual // Scintilla & Ceramic
Jonby: V12 // Roadster // Manual // Q - TBC
CheckSix: V12 // Coupe // Manual // Q Red & Gold
RobD: V12 // Roadster // Manual // halo
Vince1972: V12 // Coupe // Manual // Scintilla Silver Paint Q Special
Derek V12 // Coupe // Manual // Q TBC Halo
IanV12VR: V12 // Roadster // Manual // Q - TBC
NeinFondue V12 // Roadster // Manual // Q - TBC Scintilla & Ceramic
Kizzz: V12 // Coupe // Manual // Halo
Silverspeed:V12//Roadster//Manual//Q - TBC
magarnett//V12//Coupe//Manual//Halo
Stratstone2//v12//coupe/SS3//Halo
Mafisher//v12//coupe//manual//ultramarine


IanV12VR

2,749 posts

157 months

Sunday 13th August 2017
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Congratulations Mark, have you seen the GT8 for sale at Bristol in Ultramarine. The video looks fantastic and really shows off the colour well in the sun. Interesting that it has no stripe on it in the video yet the still pictures show it with a blue stripe, not sure it is Elwood, but gives you a good feel of what your car will look when it is built thumbup

AdamV8V

1,380 posts

158 months

Sunday 13th August 2017
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mafisher said:
Mafisher//v12//coupe//manual//ultramarine
Congrats. I was so close to going Ultramarine - it's a wonderful colour (as the AM Bristol GT8 testifies).

Yes, Ian - very intriguing that that the video shows no graphic and yet in the still images it has both the stripe and the wing-ends in a baby-blue colour scratchchin

Edited by AdamV8V on Sunday 13th August 20:28

RobDown

3,803 posts

130 months

Sunday 13th August 2017
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I was very close to Ultramarine, got Q to quote for blue cf to go with it. Looks a great colour

mafisher

87 posts

120 months

Tuesday 15th August 2017
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Thanks for the kind comments. Looking at the others have spec'd it is going to be quite unique. I did toy with having the blue CF with blue stitching but was told little option to Q these cars. I guess thats the joys of being on the other side of the world. Out of curiosity how much did Q want for the waterfall?

jonby

5,357 posts

159 months

Tuesday 15th August 2017
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mafisher said:
Thanks for the kind comments. Looking at the others have spec'd it is going to be quite unique. I did toy with having the blue CF with blue stitching but was told little option to Q these cars. I guess thats the joys of being on the other side of the world. Out of curiosity how much did Q want for the waterfall?
I think your car will look great. Of all the Astons launched in recent years, despite me having Q on mine, I think this one arguably needs Q less than most, given the unusual highly detailed nature of the standard schemes and the low production numbers

There's certainly an unusually high proportion of Q cars in the list on this thread. One can only speculate, but I guess one reason is that theoretically, all the AMR cars should be customer spec and it seems reasonable to assume a greater percentage of customer spec cars will use Q than factory or dealer spec cars

Surprised that Q isn't more readily available to all customers no matter where they are based in the world, although with this car, timing I suspect has been fairly tight and of course it also depends on the nature of the Q requests - I would have thought tinted CF of existing parts or say, a different exterior colour outside the AMR range, would be a lot quicker/easier to discuss/quote/order than more truly bespoke requests. Plus of course this is all now subject to the new minimum spend requirements. On top of all that, the dealers themselves have had to quickly get up to speed with both the AMR spec and the new Q rules - that can't help, particularly once you are in another country

One would imagine though, the medium term goal must surely be to make Q far more readily available in all markets, given the growth of AM in China and the Middle East whilst the UK appears to be a shrinking market (in percentage terms)

For you, was it along the lines of 'Q isn't generally/easily available to NZ customers', or more about the specific logistics of your particular order ?

Going back to your specific pricing question btw, it's difficult for anyone to answer because as with many Q items, option prices are often interdependent on others eg. in your example, if you are having other blue tint CF elsewhere

hornbaek

3,689 posts

237 months

Tuesday 15th August 2017
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Gentlemen, sorry for my ignorance. I have been following this thread with interest and look forward to seeing the first AML cars rolling out of Gaydon at said specs, but I have a question. In simple terms, what is the difference between a Q'ed AML and one of the final V12VS manual apart from the fact that you cannot order them anymore etc etc. I put down a deposit with my dealer some time ago (he still has it) and ultimately dropped it as too many conflicting messages were coming out of Gaydon as to what they intended to do in relation to the "final" Vantage. Now, a bit further down the line is there more clarity - hence the question. Thks.

jonby

5,357 posts

159 months

Tuesday 15th August 2017
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hornbaek said:
Gentlemen, sorry for my ignorance. I have been following this thread with interest and look forward to seeing the first AML cars rolling out of Gaydon at said specs, but I have a question. In simple terms, what is the difference between a Q'ed AML and one of the final V12VS manual apart from the fact that you cannot order them anymore etc etc. I put down a deposit with my dealer some time ago (he still has it) and ultimately dropped it as too many conflicting messages were coming out of Gaydon as to what they intended to do in relation to the "final" Vantage. Now, a bit further down the line is there more clarity - hence the question. Thks.
Assume you mean AMR not AML ?

Do you mean difference in spec ?

If so, in simple terms, AMR cars have a power boost (for V12 version only) and lots of trim items as standard that normally carry extra cost (including some never available on Vantage before e.g. interior leather welts), mostly cosmetic, plus plaques and exclusivity.

The fact some owners are going Q simply gives more choice of colours (there are only 4 standard and 1 cost option Halo colour schemes for AMR cars so beyond that, you need to go Q), more chance for bespoke detailing and the potential for adding parts not normally available as an option

If your question is more about the 'status' of AMR and particularly in the context of final Vantage production, no official announcement has been made. There seems to be a reasonable assumption on here and by some of the car mags that these AMR cars will be the last Vantages as they appear to be the only ones you can order (albeit the assumption on here seems to be that V12 AMR has sold out - I'm not saying it hasn't, just again that there has not been an announcement on this point) but again, nothing official

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Edited by jonby on Tuesday 15th August 12:12

hornbaek

3,689 posts

237 months

Tuesday 15th August 2017
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Thanks jonby. So in fact, the AMR cars are the final run - there is not an "ultimate" in the wings.

jonby

5,357 posts

159 months

Tuesday 15th August 2017
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hornbaek said:
Thanks jonby. So in fact, the AMR cars are the final run - there is not an "ultimate" in the wings.
There's been no mention of even the slightest hint anywhere on here that I've seen of there being an 'ultimate'/'final'/equivalent in the wings (whereas there has been talk on here by some, including a dealer IIRC, of a final edition Vanquish) and I've not seen any kind of rumour elsewhere, on forums, or in mags of anything to come after AMR, before the replacement

There seems to be an assumption by many on here that the AMR will be the last Vantage before the new new replacement

But again, nothing official from the factory





RobDown

3,803 posts

130 months

Tuesday 15th August 2017
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I'm 99% certain that's it for the Vantage, everything from the dealers including the paperwork suggests it is

And as Jonby has said the AMR is a bit like the DBS Ultimate, limited numbers, some nice cosmetic bits and pieces (interior etc) and the power upgrade on the V12

There's definitely a Vanquish Ultimate coming, but the dealers have already been inundated with deposits for them. It's a curious position for AML to be in; a car sold out before the factory has decided when/whether/what to build

AdamV8V

1,380 posts

158 months

Tuesday 15th August 2017
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RobDown said:
I'm 99% certain that's it for the Vantage, everything from the dealers including the paperwork suggests it is
Indeed. The dealer 'Marketing Messages' clearly state "Last series production of current Vantage range" and "Runout Edition".

Maybe "series production" is a potential get-out clause but I, for one, would be massively disappointed to find out you could order a Vantage beyond the x300 AMR cars.

IanV12VR

2,749 posts

157 months

Tuesday 15th August 2017
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AdamV8V said:
Indeed. The dealer 'Marketing Messages' clearly state "Last series production of current Vantage range" and "Runout Edition".

Maybe "series production" is a potential get-out clause but I, for one, would be massively disappointed to find out you could order a Vantage beyond the x300 AMR cars.
That's my understanding as well but would expect there could be a couple of one off's made for special customers.

Mind you, I thought that when we bought the V12VR wink It would be nice if AML could confirm this to be the case.


RobDown

3,803 posts

130 months

Tuesday 15th August 2017
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I think AML would be disappointed too smile

My sense is the 300 AMRs are being built through Q4 as a filler before production of Vantage 2 - guessing they will build set spec Launch editions in 18Q1 to meet early orders like McLaren have done with the 720S

cayman-black

12,706 posts

218 months

V8V Pete

2,497 posts

128 months

Wednesday 16th August 2017
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cayman-black said:
It is interesting that AML did nothing mechanical at all for the V8 AMR making it purely another re-trimmed model (N430.2). Why wouldn't they apply the decat of the GT8 so they could at least boast that it had a slight power uplift (and sounded different)? Not sure how sales of the 200 V8s are going but might they struggle with these?

IanV12VR

2,749 posts

157 months

Wednesday 16th August 2017
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Agree Pete. They brought the V12 up to the power output of the GT12, so why not do the same with the V8 version. That takes us back to ground covered way back when the AMR was first announced. From what I hear they do seem to be selling but whether they will sell all 200 is another question. However it has been positioned it will still be the final version of the Vantage and be very special as a result.