David Appleby twin plate clutch and lightened flywheel :-)
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8Tech said:
As a clutch and flywheel manufacturer myself
That's not a statement you are likely to see every day! I have worked for LuK Clutches & for an independent. For what it's worth (probably not a lot with me being a girl) - when it comes to clutches I was impressed with what I saw at Bamford Rose when Pearl had her upgrade Oh dear, and when you think how much they charge an hour as well, shocking. To be honest I always search for good indies because they can't rely on people that go to main dealers 'automatically' and they must provide good quality work to generate positive feedback and future business. Just my personal view of course :-)
Edited by Jalfonse on Thursday 9th January 21:14
MollyGTi said:
8Tech said:
As a clutch and flywheel manufacturer myself
That's not a statement you are likely to see every day! I have worked for LuK Clutches & for an independent. For what it's worth (probably not a lot with me being a girl) - when it comes to clutches I was impressed with what I saw at Bamford Rose when Pearl had her upgrade What does your clutch/flywheel manufacturing company trade as 8tech?
Tony V12V said:
MollyGTi said:
8Tech said:
As a clutch and flywheel manufacturer myself
That's not a statement you are likely to see every day! I have worked for LuK Clutches & for an independent. For what it's worth (probably not a lot with me being a girl) - when it comes to clutches I was impressed with what I saw at Bamford Rose when Pearl had her upgrade Tony V12V said:
What does your clutch/flywheel manufacturing company trade as 8tech?
I trade as PhoenixMotorsport and manufacture bespoke clutches and flywheels for BMW mainly.http://www.phoenixmotorsport.co.uk/Products/parts_...
Edited by 8Tech on Friday 10th January 18:49
Jalfonse said:
8Tech said:
As a clutch and flywheel manufacturer myself, those parts look fantastic and the throttle response far better as noted by the OP.
If the discs were original parts, I think I would have used some VHT paint on them to help reduce that corrosion around the bells and the edges as seen on the old discs. It also highlights the braking system visually too when painted black.
Clips and sensors left off previously!!!!!! Don't think I would be using them again then. Indie or Main Dealer?
Not sure who had left the bits and bobs off as this was prior to my ownership, not very good though I agree.If the discs were original parts, I think I would have used some VHT paint on them to help reduce that corrosion around the bells and the edges as seen on the old discs. It also highlights the braking system visually too when painted black.
Clips and sensors left off previously!!!!!! Don't think I would be using them again then. Indie or Main Dealer?
Those wheels and brakes in your pic look great what car is it and are those standard?
Quinny said:
Jalfonse said:
This type of thing is more associated with amateur owner DIY.
I would say the opposite...8Tech said:
I trade as PhoenixMotorsport and manufacture bespoke clutches and flywheels for BMW mainly.
Manufacture from core parts or do you find the demand is more you to fit upgraded/ modified OE components? Obviously a lot more modded parts available from many suppliers in the aftermarket for BMW than there is for AM certainly but still interesting I'm sure. MollyGTi said:
Tone, mate, there's a lot you don't know about me I can tell you tho' that I have earned my PistonHeads sticker & Tshirt by being a proper petrolhead for many (too many) years - as well as the above I have worked for service & sales departments (Ford & BMW), and a vehicle hire firm plus I was a biker back in my youth. I reckon I've driven a greater variety of vehicles than many blokes on this forum
Oh I don't know... Rob has told me most things ...... And to keep on topic you can talk crutches to me anytime Tony V12V said:
Manufacture from core parts or do you find the demand is more you to fit upgraded/ modified OE components? Obviously a lot more modded parts available from many suppliers in the aftermarket for BMW than there is for AM certainly but still interesting I'm sure.
Depends on what I am doing.Discs inevitably start from cores and we process them. Usually Brembo blanks for the off-the-shelf brakes or we use the blanks used in competition cars for the major upgrades.
BMW's suffer from the dual mass flywheel failures, so we do 1 piece alloy replacements from billet material and can then offer different clutch applications by changing the facing sizes. Some of the older single mass flywheels are barely adequate for the application, (sounds a bit like the AM application!) with them destroying a flywheel every time it needs a clutch, so we make them also.
Only a very small number made as its pretty specialised and far more expensive than a stock replacement. I am more into the over-engineered part than the mass produced, cheap parts.
Hope that helps.
MollyGTi said:
8Tech said:
As a clutch and flywheel manufacturer myself
That's not a statement you are likely to see every day! I have worked for LuK Clutches & for an independent. For what it's worth (probably not a lot with me being a girl) - when it comes to clutches I was impressed with what I saw at Bamford Rose when Pearl had her upgrade And what has being a girl got to do with it? Your opinions are as valuable as anyone elses, and more than some!
Edited by 8Tech on Friday 10th January 20:58
After reading all about the various clutch options on pistonheads I settled on this one principally because of the transparent pricing. The clutch hadn't gone yet but the car has done 38k and as it seems to be a keeper (had it for 5 years so far - personal record!) I thought I would treat it to a twin plate clutch and DAE's new ultra light flywheel. I originally asked for the organic clutch but was told that it was not ready for the paying public yet and that I really should consider the sintered as its really not that harsh and should last much longer. 2 weeks later the car is in the workshop and I got a steady stream of photos sent to my phone of the work in progress - interesting to see and very helpful of James Appleby who was doing the job.
the old clutch and flywheel
(James reckoned it had about 10k left in it)
new ultra-light flywheel and sintered twin plate clutch
Car was delivered back to me today and what a difference! The pedal is now much lighter, gear change is much easier (not sure why - perhaps its because you don't have to use all your effort pressing the clutch) and the car revs much more freely. The clutch does feel very different but the take up seems no more harsh than before so for anyone considering a new clutch definitely put the sintered one on your shortlist. Negatives - there's a slight "chatter" sometimes at idle (common to all twin plates) and the revs drop much quicker than before under deceleration making you think its going to stall (it hasn't).
I think that's about it - Hello by the way, after 5 years "lurking" on here this is my first post!
the old clutch and flywheel
(James reckoned it had about 10k left in it)
new ultra-light flywheel and sintered twin plate clutch
Car was delivered back to me today and what a difference! The pedal is now much lighter, gear change is much easier (not sure why - perhaps its because you don't have to use all your effort pressing the clutch) and the car revs much more freely. The clutch does feel very different but the take up seems no more harsh than before so for anyone considering a new clutch definitely put the sintered one on your shortlist. Negatives - there's a slight "chatter" sometimes at idle (common to all twin plates) and the revs drop much quicker than before under deceleration making you think its going to stall (it hasn't).
I think that's about it - Hello by the way, after 5 years "lurking" on here this is my first post!
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