CCM Owners, Check Your Discs!

[JohnG1]

yellow_tang said:

JohnG1 said:

Are these bolts available to buy from AML?

Didn't someone post on here a while back and found out that AML only sell the bolts along with the entire rotor assembly!

They are a balanced assembly bought in from Brembo hence the bolts are not really serviceable.

So, if you have corroded bolts then the AML way to resolve this is a new rotor.

For the want of a bolt, the disc was lost, for the want of the thick end of £6000/axle, your car is back up and running.

Ouch!

[yellow_tang]

JohnG1 said:

So, if you have corroded bolts then the AML way to resolve this is a new rotor.

For the want of a bolt, the disc was lost, for the want of the thick end of £6000/axle, your car is back up and running.

Ouch!

Well not really diy serviceable, but sure there must be somewhere that can do this...

[JohnG1]

yellow_tang said:

JohnG1 said:

So, if you have corroded bolts then the AML way to resolve this is a new rotor.

For the want of a bolt, the disc was lost, for the want of the thick end of £6000/axle, your car is back up and running.

Ouch!

Well not really diy serviceable, but sure there must be somewhere that can do this...

I would not dream of messing around with safety critical kit on a car. But does seem odd that if the bolts are rusty the parts AML sell include the rotor as well...

[F355GTS]

JohnG1 said:

yellow_tang said:

JohnG1 said:

Are these bolts available to buy from AML?

Didn't someone post on here a while back and found out that AML only sell the bolts along with the entire rotor assembly!

They are a balanced assembly bought in from Brembo hence the bolts are not really serviceable.

So, if you have corroded bolts then the AML way to resolve this is a new rotor.

For the want of a bolt, the disc was lost, for the want of the thick end of £6000/axle, your car is back up and running.

Ouch!

You need a lot of heat to get them out 600 degrees plus oven apparently, I had the same problem on my 599 and the specialist broke one of the discs getting the bolts out/ bell off. tbh I don't think my car had been used in salty conditions and I didn't think stainless rusted! I suspect it's some chemical reaction with the alu bells, carbon discs and what look like non stainless bolts

[8Tech]

embdenb said:

Cold said:

After ten years? A decade of driving?

Yes. This is a safety issue. A recall is warranted. In the US GM did a recall on ingnition
switches that I believe went back at least ten years.
That said recalls are based in many cases on reported issues. In Aston’s case I suspect there were not as many reported issues. This does not absolve them because the same argument can be made for Bentley etc.

Agree, BMW, Honda, Toyota and Ford and others have recalled cars up to 20 years old for a recall on the airbags. 50 Million vehicles affected. I would not want to be the supplier to fix that lot under warranty!!! Even Tesla are recalling about 70,000 cars for defective airbags on cars from 2014 to 2016.

If its safety critical, and a bad/poor/defective design originally, there should be no time limit.

[yellow_tang]

F355GTS said:

I had the same problem on my 599 and the specialist broke one of the discs getting the bolts out/ bell off.

Was the Ferrari subject to a recall?

I haven’t seen a recall for other brands either - MB, Porsche to name a couple of others?

Edited by yellow_tang on Monday 3rd June 11:18

[JaseB]

Just to confirm is this about 'rivets' that hold the disc to the bell?

I had one fail on my car, luckily got away with replacing a single disc, albeit at my expense.

[DB9VolanteDriver]

They're not rivets, they are flat head bolts. The head breaks off from the bolt shaft.

[JaseB]

So they are, every day's a school day 😁

[woodsypedia]

Are there any more updates on this? I'm tempted to call the factory and see what they have to say. My car does not show signs of this (yet!) - but it's a bit nerving for sure.

Chris.

[jamie9738]

yellow_tang said:

Basically yes. Ten year old car with low mileage. It is a safety critical item, and expensive for an owner to address.
Something to keep an eye on but awkward to check as occurs on the back of the disc assembly.

Hi
Did you ever sort out yr discs as my F430 has done the same on some bolts??
Kind regards
Jay

[Sammbo995]

So just to clarify. The manufacturers were replacing the bobbins for the bells. However regarding the Aston picture there seems to be minor cracks. Is that normal?