Vantage F1
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Big Ry

1,682 posts

148 months

Monday 22nd March 2021
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Hmmm, bigger wheels and a massive rear wing which will make you look stupid on a public road..........£21k for the privilege............ whistle

Is it just me, or is this very much a damp squib of a release ? It certainly didn't require any press embargo that's for sure !

AM are going to need to try harder than this I reckon.

AdamV12V

5,314 posts

206 months

Monday 22nd March 2021
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Big Ry said:
Hmmm, bigger wheels and a massive rear wing which will make you look stupid on a public road..........£21k for the privilege............ whistle

Is it just me, or is this very much a damp squib of a release ? It certainly didn't require any press embargo that's for sure !

AM are going to need to try harder than this I reckon.
I'm sure there are plenty of AMR and other GT8/GT12 owners who may disagree with the looking stupid on a public road comment, but each to their own. rolleyes

Considering the aerokit was £20k + fitting, its actually quite good value when you look at the main performance tweaks thrown in the mix effectively for free.

That said, it does nothing to pique my interest really. Needs the V12 and and a manual gearbox fitting before my eyebrow will raise. wink

Big Ry

1,682 posts

148 months

Monday 22nd March 2021
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Agreed, maybe I was a bit harsh with the "stupid" comment, so apologies if I caused offence to anyone beer

That said, a GT8 or GT12 to me basically looks like a race car, so I get it. This release to me looks like a "normal" car with a wing stuck on the back of it. That's more where I was going with it.

If I wanted to really stand out I'd buy a Lamborghini, but as I don't.......well I don't biggrin

Also, when it comes to the increased power, is anyone really that bothered (genuine question) ? Unless you're tracking it, then all these numbers are pretty irrelevant in my book, as everything is fast these days. It's far more about sound for me.

AdamV12V

5,314 posts

206 months

Monday 22nd March 2021
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Big Ry said:
Also, when it comes to the increased power, is anyone really that bothered (genuine question) ? Unless you're tracking it, then all these numbers are pretty irrelevant in my book, as everything is fast these days. It's far more about sound for me.
Agreed, 25bhp is a bit of a dissapointment really, and still way down on the old V12VS output, and missing 4 cylinders, and full of fake pops n crackles.

For me, just makes the last gen of cars look all the better value. Once upon a time I didnt see me keeping any car for more than 2-3yrs. Now I cant see that I will sell either of these ever, and once everything is battery powered, well thats me out. wink

Minglar

1,928 posts

152 months

Monday 22nd March 2021
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I find it all a bit of an anticlimax really, after reading about it a couple of weeks ago in the magazine. I do think it looks pretty good, but the power hike is minimal. Will it make much difference to the performance on the road? Surely it needed nearer 550/600bhp, or, wash my mouth out, a V12? I do also find it rather puzzling that a manual isn’t offered. AP was always a big fan and advocate of manual gearboxes, but perhaps the new MB connections don’t consider them relevant anymore? I’m still of the view, that despite these updates, I think I’d rather wait for another year or two, to see how the new Vantage changes. This iteration, whilst looking the best so far, does rather look like it’s desperately trying to cash in on the upcoming F1 exposure. And as Big Ry said, did it really warrant a press embargo?!

Best Regards

Minglar

Jon39

14,921 posts

172 months

Monday 22nd March 2021
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I reckon there must be some buyers, who would like to have a road going lookalike Formula One Safety Car.
Think they will sell some, although possibly not to PHers.

Now that leads us on to a road going lookalike Medical Car.
What is the betting that will be the next DBX variant ?
Might push the list price over £200,000, if it comes equipped with stethoscope and plasters.


milu

2,513 posts

295 months

Monday 22nd March 2021
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Well i like it.

Nbgring

168 posts

152 months

Monday 22nd March 2021
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Perfect timing!
The car offers everything the GT8 / GT12 had - for a far more reasonable price.
If you consider that the V12VS engines usually deliver only 540 bhp (ask BR and others) and AMG engines deliver 5% above name plate, then it is easy to understand why this car is performing so much better on the Nürburgring than the previous generation cars.

This one will sell!

Big Ry

1,682 posts

148 months

Monday 22nd March 2021
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milu said:
Well i like it.
To be clear, whilst wings and all that jazz are not for me, it's not that I don't like it (colour is nice and wheels look good), I just don't get why it needed a press embargo, or why anyone would shell out another twenty grand for it, but that's the beauty of choice I guess, each to their own.

As for a lack of manual, I'm beginning to think that the option will be very quietly fazed out. It's dead as a Dodo in 9 years anyway, so I if sales are minimal, then why continue with it ? I'd like to see stats, but I bet manuals are a very small percentage of new Vantage sales globally.

cayman-black

13,265 posts

245 months

Monday 22nd March 2021
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Nbgring said:
Perfect timing!
The car offers everything the GT8 / GT12 had - for a far more reasonable price.
If you consider that the V12VS engines usually deliver only 540 bhp (ask BR and others) and AMG engines deliver 5% above name plate, then it is easy to understand why this car is performing so much better on the Nürburgring than the previous generation cars.

This one will sell!
Funny then how the same engine in the merc gt its the faster car.

alscar

9,762 posts

242 months

Monday 22nd March 2021
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Nbgring said" The car offers everything the GT8 / GT12 had - for a far more reasonable price."

Other than the looks , the noise ,the weight savings ,the body shape , the interior , the very limited numbers ,the additional carbon etc etc not quite sure this is the case.

Being sold to match the F1 so presumably that will also involve getting the Satin finish -dread to think how that will be to look after.

phumy

5,827 posts

266 months

Monday 22nd March 2021
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Nbgring said:
Perfect timing!
The car offers everything the GT8 / GT12 had - for a far more reasonable price.
If you consider that the V12VS engines usually deliver only 540 bhp (ask BR and others) and AMG engines deliver 5% above name plate, then it is easy to understand why this car is performing so much better on the Nürburgring than the previous generation cars.

This one will sell!
565bhp actually, from a standard V12 Vantage S.

Likeomg

164 posts

127 months

Monday 22nd March 2021
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Does anybody have the paint code specifics? It's not too far off Viridian Green but I prefer this one... I'm guessing its the same shade as this ?




Minglar

1,928 posts

152 months

Monday 22nd March 2021
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According to the official AM website the green is called Gloss Aston Martin Racing Green. Two versions of black or white are also available (Satin or Gloss Jet Black and Satin or Gloss Lunar White)

Best Regards

Minglar



oilit

2,805 posts

207 months

Monday 22nd March 2021
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What I think is probably irrelevant as I am not the target buyer, but I hope they sell 1000 of them to the F1 fans! driving

AlexT

563 posts

265 months

Tuesday 23rd March 2021
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Why haven't AM put their V12 in the new Vantage yet? They've already made a V12 Speedster. And they've even gone to the trouble of manufacturing them without a roof! Surely this transition would be straightforward and successful....

Likeomg

164 posts

127 months

Tuesday 23rd March 2021
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There’s a new gt12 in The works...

Likeomg

164 posts

127 months

Tuesday 23rd March 2021
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Minglar said:
According to the official AM website the green is called Gloss Aston Martin Racing Green. Two versions of black or white are also available (Satin or Gloss Jet Black and Satin or Gloss Lunar White)

Best Regards

Minglar
Anybody with a actual paint code number, I’m thinking to have my rc racing boat painted in the same.. (120mph+ 1.85m race boat)

V8V Pete

2,536 posts

155 months

Tuesday 23rd March 2021
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Jon39 said:
Now that leads us on to a road going lookalike Medical Car.
What is the betting that will be the next DBX variant ?
Might push the list price over £200,000, if it comes equipped with stethoscope and plasters.
No thanks Jon. I'll stick to pedalling to work smile