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bargain compared to this: http://www.pistonheads.com/classifieds/used-cars/a...
Hadn't realised these were at this "price point" now. The differential between the ~"normal" car and the "S" seems too high to me. Broadly 2012 Vantage's are mid/high 80's with 2013 S's 25k higher....sure it's a more powerful car but for some people the manual box is preferable. £25k difference seems to much to me.
What will be very interesting to see in two or three years time what the price differential is for the two cars.
What will be very interesting to see in two or three years time what the price differential is for the two cars.
Cheib said:
Hadn't realised these were at this "price point" now. The differential between the ~"normal" car and the "S" seems too high to me. Broadly 2012 Vantage's are mid/high 80's with 2013 S's 25k higher....sure it's a more powerful car but for some people the manual box is preferable. £25k difference seems to much to me.
What will be very interesting to see in two or three years time what the price differential is for the two cars.
I think the problem was that the V12V was launched to the market when buyers and cash were in short supply, so with the exception of a handful of eager early adopters very few people actually paid RRP, indeed very considerable discounts were available if you asked. This clearly had a knock on effect on used prices, and they are proving slow to recover from this.What will be very interesting to see in two or three years time what the price differential is for the two cars.
The V12VS was launched into a different market, with less stock supplied to the UK, and therefore dealers have been less keen to discount and certainly nowhere near the same level, so you are basically comparing two cars which are very similar, but which would have sold at say £40k-£50k difference in price.
V12VS prices are now softening as used stock is steadily increasing, and V12V prices seem to be holding firm as used stock dwindles, but as you point out, 5-10yrs from now there is likely to be almost no difference in prices. I suspect mileage and condition will be the driving factor on price, rather than model or age - indeed I'd not be surprised if the manual cars end up worth more, despite the fact they are all older.
cayman-black said:
AdamV12V said:
Nope its Onyx and doesn't have the piano centre pieces and steering wheel insert, so its just a Std V12V in black spec.
Steering wheel insert ?Carbon Black V12V interior:
Std V12V interior
AdamV12V said:
Cheib said:
Hadn't realised these were at this "price point" now. The differential between the ~"normal" car and the "S" seems too high to me. Broadly 2012 Vantage's are mid/high 80's with 2013 S's 25k higher....sure it's a more powerful car but for some people the manual box is preferable. £25k difference seems to much to me.
What will be very interesting to see in two or three years time what the price differential is for the two cars.
I think the problem was that the V12V was launched to the market when buyers and cash were in short supply, so with the exception of a handful of eager early adopters very few people actually paid RRP, indeed very considerable discounts were available if you asked. This clearly had a knock on effect on used prices, and they are proving slow to recover from this.What will be very interesting to see in two or three years time what the price differential is for the two cars.
The V12VS was launched into a different market, with less stock supplied to the UK, and therefore dealers have been less keen to discount and certainly nowhere near the same level, so you are basically comparing two cars which are very similar, but which would have sold at say £40k-£50k difference in price.
V12VS prices are now softening as used stock is steadily increasing, and V12V prices seem to be holding firm as used stock dwindles, but as you point out, 5-10yrs from now there is likely to be almost no difference in prices. I suspect mileage and condition will be the driving factor on price, rather than model or age - indeed I'd not be surprised if the manual cars end up worth more, despite the fact they are all older.
I just bought a 2012.5 V12V in the US. One of the "final forty." 3 of 40 to be exact.
I paid $130k. 10,000 miles.
I suspect these cars will continue to drop into the 70-80k range here in the US. R8s and Gallardos seem to have bottomed but Astons are a different bird. Market for them is small.
I do expect them to appreciate but it will be 10 years of flat lining and then a slow rise. I'm 45. I hope when I'm 60 the car is worth 250k. I plan to have it then, and still driving the f$%k out of it. I just don't think you are going to see any manual, Brit/Italian/German supercars for much longer (although BMW M is holding the fort on the manual as well).
I paid $130k. 10,000 miles.
I suspect these cars will continue to drop into the 70-80k range here in the US. R8s and Gallardos seem to have bottomed but Astons are a different bird. Market for them is small.
I do expect them to appreciate but it will be 10 years of flat lining and then a slow rise. I'm 45. I hope when I'm 60 the car is worth 250k. I plan to have it then, and still driving the f$%k out of it. I just don't think you are going to see any manual, Brit/Italian/German supercars for much longer (although BMW M is holding the fort on the manual as well).
I paid the equivalent of $142,500 for a 2013 car with just 5,500 miles and many extras fitted. I hope in ten years time it is worth £75,000. EarlyV 12's are not below £70k yet. With the price of fuel falling in the UK the next few years will be cheap motoring. I think the V12 S will fall for while then bottom out around £80k in the UK
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