New Vredestein Vorti - Anyone Using It?
Discussion
You don't seriously believe that marketing hype, do you? The Pirelli P Zero is used on many cars (as is the Bridgestone). While the tyre may have been intially developed at a specific manufacturer's request, do you really think that the AM stamp on the sidewall means it is somehow different than a Pirelli P Zero with a Porsche or Ferrari stamp on it?
And what is to be brave about? It's not like the car is suddenly going to jump into the nearest hedge, is it?
And what is to be brave about? It's not like the car is suddenly going to jump into the nearest hedge, is it?
BingoBob said:
There's always Ling-Long tyres if you want to save a few quid... 
The Pirelli P Zero is overpriced for its performance...it is now outdated. The equivalent Michelin Pilot Super Sport is superior in all ways at about 2/3rds the price. And Bridgestones are really not very good as compared to the P Zero. They are very noisy and hard riding for no good reason. And they are priced similar to the PSS, so it is, frankly, a no brainer to buy the PSS if you are currently using the Bridgestone.The Vredestein Vorti is new to the market, and is less expensive than the PSS, but it may (or may not) have similar performance, since tyre tech moves very fast. The point is, judging a tyre by price alone is foolish. And just becasue a tyre was SOTA 5 years ago doesn't make it SOTA today.
You can go along buying the 'recommended' tyre, but that doesn't make it the best available tyre out there, nor does it mean that it suits your particular needs such as quiet vs ultimate road grip. People seldom, if ever, drive their cars ar anything approaching 10/10ths on the road, so compromise is normal.
I'm just trying to find out if anyone has any real world experience with the Vorti. And by the way, Vredestein is not Ling-Long.
moveover said:
I had Pilot Sports on a previous BMW and agree they are excellent. Anyone know if they are available in the right size for a V8V?
Pilot Sports are old generation. The NEW Super Sports are miles (pun intended) ahead in terms of performance. And they are better than the P Zero for less money.Here's video link showing the Vorti introduction at the Hungaroring. Shown on XKRS and Virage and various and sundry other cars. Maybe Dutch friends can translate!
http://www.youtube.com/embed/3b55qezGBE0
http://www.youtube.com/embed/3b55qezGBE0
I finally was able to take the tires (and the car) for a spin. They seem to be on par, noise and ride wise, with the P-Zero (which is better than the Bridgestone) Handling didn't seem any different, but who's to say if they can reach the same limit or have the same characteristics as the P-Zero? Unless you test them side by side in a controlled environment, it is all rather subjective.
I did have a little vibration at around 70-80 mph with the P-Zeros; these seem better. But that could simply mean a better job at balancing.
One thing that isn't subjective, however, is the cost. Mounted and balanced, these were $1050 out the door, which is half the cost of the P-Zeros and about 70% of the Pilot Super Sport.
Bottom line? No regrets.
I did have a little vibration at around 70-80 mph with the P-Zeros; these seem better. But that could simply mean a better job at balancing.
One thing that isn't subjective, however, is the cost. Mounted and balanced, these were $1050 out the door, which is half the cost of the P-Zeros and about 70% of the Pilot Super Sport.
Bottom line? No regrets.
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