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iaint said:
'cool supra mate'
Ow! That's a bad one! Everyone can see it's a Lexus!
A classic car expert talking to the owner of a series 1 E-type:
No no no, the Series 1 E-type roadster isn't the most wanted. You have to look for the 2+2 V12. Those are very rare and the most expensive. The most beautiful ones too...
Next to him stands the owner of the S1 E-type, with a lot of questionmarks above his head, not knowing how to get away fast
Or when I had my Beetle with ATS 5-spoke alloys:
Those are Ferrari wheels, aren't they?
Or mothers and sisters in law can say something like:
Last week I saw a really nice sportscar.
- You did? What was it then?
A red one, you know...
Took a mate to look at a BMW 520 that had a couple of M badges on it, talking to the owner of the beemer, I told him it wasn't an M series cause it only had a two-point-something litre engine, one set of exhausts, crap wheels, small brakes, high ride height so on so on. He wouldn't believe me at all. He just kept saying "but it's got an M on the steering wheel and gear knob!!" - W
ker!!
We then started talking about my Tiv, he told me I should fit a (atmos to air) dump valve to it. I told him that I'd need a turbo to do that, again, he wouldn't believe me - Once again ..... Wker!!
ker!! We then started talking about my Tiv, he told me I should fit a (atmos to air) dump valve to it. I told him that I'd need a turbo to do that, again, he wouldn't believe me - Once again ..... W
ker!!A guy I used to share a house with had an esgrot RS turbo (torque steer heaven) and I had a :cough cough: saxo vtr and I mentioned that I would like to have the sound that he had on gearchange (I didn't think to talk to technically to him, your about to hear why)
Stupid RST Mug: Wot, that "wwwttoooossshhhh" noise
Me: Errr, yeah, thats the one.
Stupid RST Mug: Oh, you wanna get a gas flowed cylinder head for your gearbox, thats what makes that noise.
WTF!!!!!!!!!!!
Where do you even begin to explain how far wrong he has gone!!
As we all know, I was talking about wastegates/dumpvalves, but a "gas flowed cylinder head for your gearbox"????
He also seemed to think "his mates" RS Turbo had 330BHP from a chip, exhaust and manifold change. I wouldbn't be suprised if he couldn't locate any one of those in an engine bay.
Rule 1 about bulling, make sure you have even a slightly remote clue about what your bulling about!!!
>> Edited by turbo-tastic on Wednesday 22 June 09:40
Stupid RST Mug: Wot, that "wwwttoooossshhhh" noise
Me: Errr, yeah, thats the one.
Stupid RST Mug: Oh, you wanna get a gas flowed cylinder head for your gearbox, thats what makes that noise.
WTF!!!!!!!!!!!
Where do you even begin to explain how far wrong he has gone!! As we all know, I was talking about wastegates/dumpvalves, but a "gas flowed cylinder head for your gearbox"????
He also seemed to think "his mates" RS Turbo had 330BHP from a chip, exhaust and manifold change. I wouldbn't be suprised if he couldn't locate any one of those in an engine bay.
Rule 1 about bull
ing, make sure you have even a slightly remote clue about what your bulling about!!! >> Edited by turbo-tastic on Wednesday 22 June 09:40
Gazboy said:
[And I had a protracted conversation with a guy determined to convince me that the Peugoet 205 GTi 1.6 was in fact faster and better in every respect than a Lotus Turbo Esprit.
I'd imagine on anything less than a (wide) A-road, your mate is probably right- down a bumpy B-road the Lotus wouldn't see which way the Pug went.
You've been in a knackered esprit!
m12_nathan said:
Twincam16 said:
[And I had a protracted conversation with a guy determined to convince me that the Peugoet 205 GTi 1.6 was in fact faster and better in every respect than a Lotus Turbo Esprit.
I'd imagine on anything less than a (wide) A-road, your mate is probably right- down a bumpy B-road the Lotus wouldn't see which way the Pug went.
You've been in a knackered esprit!
dcw@pr said:
" a WRC car is as fast around a track as an F1 car"
My only guess was that he was talking Group B, in relation to the non-traction-control turbo F1 cars of the era. The even-higher-powered, 4WD Group Bs could match the F1 cars in a straight line, and take corners more tenaciously too.
Having said that, that was only a few of the later ones - Ford RS200, Lancia Delta S4, Peugoet 205 T16, that sort of thing.
As for the 205GTi v Turbo Esprit thing, he was actually talking about on-track performance, despite the fact he's probably never seen a racetrack in his life and drives like a tw@. I got the idea, talking to him, that he would only stick up for cars he could afford. He was saying that even non-hot hatches (Focus 1.6, 306 D-Turbo) were faster than a whole load of sports cars. He solely read Lax Power, and seemed to think that absolutely anything with a bodykit and a big stereo was the ultimate track star.
Twincam16 said:
" a WRC car is as fast around a track as an F1 car"
My only guess was that he was talking Group B, in relation to the non-traction-control turbo F1 cars of the era. The even-higher-powered, 4WD Group Bs could match the F1 cars in a straight line, and take corners more tenaciously too.
Having said that, that was only a few of the later ones - Ford RS200, Lancia Delta S4, Peugoet 205 T16, that sort of thing.
no he was talking about contemporary WRC vs contemporary F1, he argued the point for a good 10 minutes.
dcw@pr said:
dcw@pr said:
" a WRC car is as fast around a track as an F1 car"
My only guess was that he was talking Group B, in relation to the non-traction-control turbo F1 cars of the era. The even-higher-powered, 4WD Group Bs could match the F1 cars in a straight line, and take corners more tenaciously too.
Having said that, that was only a few of the later ones - Ford RS200, Lancia Delta S4, Peugoet 205 T16, that sort of thing.
no he was talking about contemporary WRC vs contemporary F1, he argued the point for a good 10 minutes.
what do you expect in todays 'max muppet' generation, where a scooby is the best supercar EVER because it has 4WD and a turbo..
These kids have no concept of 'power to weight' ratios, aerodynamics, or even 'torque'
Oh I must drive a supercar 
I would never class mine as a supercar, it is just a nippy car.
Supercars are a completely different league (with better interiors...lol).
I read a comment on my local forum today of someone complaining that they needed a turbo because their car wasn't quick enough.
Why can't these daft people see that you can have a very fast car without a turbo?
I would never class mine as a supercar, it is just a nippy car.
Supercars are a completely different league (with better interiors...lol).
I read a comment on my local forum today of someone complaining that they needed a turbo because their car wasn't quick enough.
Why can't these daft people see that you can have a very fast car without a turbo?
A mate of mine has a (then) 8 yr old little brother. When The Fast and The Furious came out, I spent the following year trying to teach him about how to make cars faster (very generally) and that, to be fast, a car did not only need one thing: NOS. Needless to say, every car we saw it was "Has that got NOS? No? Ah, it's slow then".
That bloody film has a lot to answer for!
No, Nicky...a thumping huge stereo and bouncy suspension does NOT make your car faster!
That bloody film has a lot to answer for!
No, Nicky...a thumping huge stereo and bouncy suspension does NOT make your car faster!
Fidgits said:
what do you expect in todays 'max muppet' generation, where a scooby is the best supercar EVER because it has 4WD and a turbo..
These kids have no concept of 'power to weight' ratios, aerodynamics, or even 'torque'
Unfortunately true. Now every kid is talking about 'NOS' (not 'Nitrous Oxide'), and the Laxxers truly believe - so it seems - that any kind of excessive, tacky bodykit will instinctively make their car grip and handle better simply because it must generate downforce
Try and explain power-to-weight ratio, negative suspension camber, drag coefficient, weight-saving, the Chapman Principle, weight distribution - any of that goes straight over their heads. Truth is, they're trying to reconcile their facile grasp of performance modification with their annoying need to have speakers that render the boot useless and completely unnecessary things like TVs, strobe lights, underlit neons, lowrider suspension and so on.
I've even offered to help one guy properly modify his car for speed, but he refused to listen to a word I said and I gave up hope when he sawed off the gearknob and superglued a metallic purple Halfrauds one in place because he kept telling me it was an 'essential' modification but he couldn't figure how to attach it properly.
Hopefully one of these days he'll get whatever he's driving confiscated and crushed
Twincam16 said:
Now every kid is talking about 'NOS' (not 'Nitrous Oxide'), and the Laxxers truly believe - so it seems - that any kind of excessive, tacky bodykit will instinctively make their car grip and handle better simply because it must generate downforce
Actually I'm quite partially to a squirt of the old NO2,just not the 'Lax essential' 100 brake,rip yer wrists off, dry shot-thanks F2F.
Bang for bucks,esp in turbo applications with a progressive controller, it's hard to beat.
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