New 320d makes peak power at 5,500rpm

New 320d makes peak power at 5,500rpm

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Welshbeef

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TheDrBrian said:
You car being the only one
https://youtu.be/6gNh2RIIwdA

A 2 minute search proves otherwise oh well you can now retract your statement.

Welshbeef

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Shiv_P said:
Welshbeef said:
https://youtu.be/6gNh2RIIwdA

A 2 minute search proves otherwise oh well you can now retract your statement.
confused That just shows a BMW slapping into a 5krpm redline??
https://youtu.be/1ZHryVdRBCc

Watch up to 1min 40 seconds

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TheDrBrian said:
Obviously a finance director doesn't deal with numbers.
Technically the whole line is red but the typical red line is the bit where the gauge is punctuated with the thick red line, again you've posted a video where the car shifts before 5,500 rpm.

EDIT: Yeah the VBH video didn't convince anyone but you last time. I'm amazed no one else has put a video showing a 5,500rpm x35d engine on youtube in the 7 and a half years since.

Edited by TheDrBrian on Tuesday 7th May 22:30
F30 335d dash



As a dr you should be able to see what it’s limitations are if it’s redline is at 5,500rpm and you believe it slaps its limited at 5k why have it when no other BMW ever pre or post has a red line set too high for it to rev to.

Welshbeef

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yonex said:
So post a video?

Or stop. Better, stop.
The dr is asking for it though evidence provided.

Whole thread is about big rev range on diesels so it’s all here to see and discuss

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It’s actually hard to find any videos of any cars specifically to rev to and beyond the rev limiter Honda VTEC S being the exception.


If you put it in M not D or DS it will go all the way - car just knows it’s quicker changing earlier

Welshbeef

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Wednesday 8th May 2019
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Let’s say can someone provide a video of a 330i F30 changing up at redline

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ruprechtmonkeyboy said:
I'm not sure what you're trying to prove with all this. You drive a diesel BMW that doesn't rev very high (fact). If you want a car that does then sell it and buy the petrol version. Then you can stop getting all worked up about it smile
Apparently only revs 500rpm less than most Turbo petrols

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Wednesday 8th May 2019
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janesmith1950 said:
Welshbeef said:
Apparently only revs 500rpm less than most Turbo petrols
Would have thought the limiter on a 535d would be around 5k rpm, whereas most petrols will be around 1500rpm higher than that.

Modern diesels don't pretend to use high rpm to generate power so not really sure what point you're trying to make?
Point of the title of the thread revs to 5,500rpm.

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Wednesday 8th May 2019
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Monkeylegend said:
janesmith1950 said:
Welshbeef said:
Point of the title of the thread revs to 5,500rpm.
The title of your thread was that it makes peak power at 5500rpm, which is not the case. I'd be surprised if the cut off wasn't before that point.
Don't confuse him.
Why would cut off be hundreds of revs before the dash indicated red line?

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janesmith1950 said:
Welshbeef said:
Why would cut off be hundreds of revs before the dash indicated red line?
The dash red line is 5k as far as I'm aware.
Look at this page or previous page dash clip of a F30 showing 5,500 rpm red line with nothing staggered before.

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Wednesday 8th May 2019
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Fastdruid said:
To impress naive people. Same way 6 year olds are impressed by a speedo that goes up to 160mph when their dad's only goes up to 120mph even if it'll never make it that fast.
They kind of do that with speedos as all are limited to 155mph so volume makes sense vs 120/130/160 variants of speedos.

Now RPM it’s a digital dash in the picture posted what logic is there to put it above what apparently tinternet posters believe it will not - and those oddly don’t own the car themselves so are guessing.

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Wednesday 8th May 2019
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tallpaul26 said:
Apologies for the terrible photo. This is a new 320d, it redlines at 5k and in Sport mode the auto upshifts at 4K.

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janesmith1950 said:
omeone in this thread in Monday posted a picture they had taken of the new 320d dash display. The red line is at 5k rpm.

Bored now. Silly thread with a misleading title and now around 9 pages trying to work out what you're on about.
Autocar article

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cerb4.5lee said:
I had a 640d and I did love its performance/economy mix without question...but it was never a car that you would just jump in and drive for the sake of it, and for me that was down to its engine.

I personally struggle to find any passion for a diesel engine...whereas I love petrol engines big time.
I’ll wager that Cerbera was something you’d be looking forward to Drive all day long in the office. Heck I’d call off a night on the booze for an early morning drive in that car.

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cerb4.5lee said:
They are very special cars for sure. smile
Have only ever been a passenger in an early 4,2 V8 that was a fun ride loud, vibrations torque power so low and that lovely mk1 headlights.
Would love to try the 4.5v8 red rose

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gizlaroc said:
But it isn't 1 in 5, it is something like 1 in 50 on the timing chain, there was a case brought to court in Ireland by owners and BMW had to release figures.

They have sold over a million 3 series with that engine, let alone 5 series, 4 series, 1 series, X1, X3 etc. etc.

10 million cars out there?

Lexus sell around 10,000 LS models a year, of course we are going to hear about issues far more in regards to BMWs.
Isn’t it the case that Lexus have always been built to a massively higher tolerance - to aviation levels hence minuscule/non existent failures.

So I’ve read somewheree

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yonex said:
Stop talking utter bks. Do you even understand what you’re just said?
Why do you keep digging at people are you not ashamed stop bullying people

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yonex said:
Because abject stupidity needs to be called out, always.

Aviation vs automotive.

Where do you want to begin?
You are not thinking about people’s wellbeing their mental health

Bully for you that’s for sure

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Thursday 9th May 2019
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nickfrog said:
Your formula tells me it's as much about revs as it is about torque, it's probably simpler to express it with the combination of both, which is power. The gearbox is thankfully a very good torque multiplier.
Torque is ability to swing say a sledge hammer - power is about the amount of times you can swing it.

Worlds strongest man has a huge amount of torque but very low RPM ie he can only do 500kg deadlift once.

A steam engine has fiddly power yet immense torque - perfect for its use.


I wonder what a massive torque petrol would be like to race (but low power?)

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Thursday 9th May 2019
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BathyThermo said:
Welshbeef said:
I wonder what a massive torque petrol would be like to race (but low power?)
Slow. Torque has nothing to do with speed. That's why we use this useful metric, power.
Audi R10 and Leon Cupra TDI (race cars) we’re not slow infact front of the field