335d is cr&p,

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Must be, i own one.

Apparently if you would prefer to own a nice new BMW diesel over a 12 year old 355 you must be nutz and wrong in the head.

Im not really after an ageing, out of date ferrari. WOuld prefer something newer, reliable and certainly in this day and age in certain parts more stylish than an out of date ferrari.

Yes they are amazing cars to the right people. But not for everyone. Im being condemned for enjoying a good car. Does piss me off ever so slightly.

This was in the general gassing forum. I do think though ever so slightly its a personal attack on me rather than my choice of car, using what i do have and what i am passionate about to redicule me.

Nice bunch on here. Real car people for sure. (have to take the piss out of anyone who hasnt got a type of car similar to theirs.)




Carlos

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heebeegeetee said:

MikeyMike said:

heebeegeetee said:

MikeyMike said:

and unremarkable in every way.

What a load of tosh! its an incredible car. Listen, they've been building Ferraris and other fast cars for decades, but its only recently become possible - only in the last 5 years? - to build a car with the attributes of a 335d, they are incredible cars. No, i wouldn't pay 45k to have one as my everyday car and i wouldn't really want any ferrari as my everyday car either, come to that.

Even a 45k 911, it seems such a shame to use such a nice car as an everyday car, and i think it would depreciate at the same rate for a while, and again, they've been building 911's since '63.

But a fast car that is reliable, nice looking, handles well and does 500 miles on a tank? Nope, they've only recently discovered how to build them so to describe them as unremarkable in every way shows breathtaking lack of knowledge imo.

It's not a remarkable car, its a very very good car and a prime example of the investment of time and resources made by the motor industry in diesel technology. It is not car porn.

Depends where you'e coming from then, i guess. If you're into engineering its a very remarkable car indeed, really quite amazing imo.

To them who don't know though, i guess its just another 3 series.

Which in reality, in Coupe form is a good looking car.

No one said it was ''car porn'' only the chap who keeps going on about it!

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Thanks to all those who have supported me and my choice of car. I appreciate your comments!

I do think some people have been overly harsh for no real reason.

But once again thanks to those who have been supportive!


Carlos

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dibbly_dobbler said:

AlexE46 said:

dxb335d said:

my choice of car.

Im not being arsey here, but seriously Carlos, if you had full control over the car you are driving and were handed £45k tomorrow and told to buy something... would it be a brand new 335d?

Have you grown to love the car because to all intents and purposes it was the car that you were given? We are all going to stick up for our choice of car and defend (even though we don't have to) our rationale for buying it. After all, we wouldnt be driving the car we were driving if we didnt want to... or are you?

Genuine question, as from my POV if i was pushed into a 335d for similar reasons to yourself i would obviously be very happy, but it still wouldnt be the car my own £45k would go on, if you get me?

+1 Agreed. I'll quote myself (well nobody else will !) from when our young hero burst onto the scene a couple of months ago:

'Like the 335d a lot but seems a bit of an odd choice for a young lad like yourself ? Anything else on the shortlist ? Any reason you went for it ?'

(This thread and the other one about the photoshoot are a cracking laugh btw - let's keep it up !)

Why is it not a good choice of car for young lad? it looks great, has fantastic performance and is good on juice.

The only other car i would consider is the 335i which does sound much better. No quicker though stock for stock. (Have tried with friends 335i's many many times.)

But i am quite happy with my 335d, enough so that i dont feel the need to change it for a 335i. Also no re-map has yet been released for the 335i so tuning currently is a bit crude with tuning boxes and the like.

The 335d has been succesfully re-mapped and is a peach!

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dibbly_dobbler said:

dxb335d said:

dibbly_dobbler said:

AlexE46 said:

dxb335d said:

my choice of car.

Im not being arsey here, but seriously Carlos, if you had full control over the car you are driving and were handed £45k tomorrow and told to buy something... would it be a brand new 335d?

Have you grown to love the car because to all intents and purposes it was the car that you were given? We are all going to stick up for our choice of car and defend (even though we don't have to) our rationale for buying it. After all, we wouldnt be driving the car we were driving if we didnt want to... or are you?

Genuine question, as from my POV if i was pushed into a 335d for similar reasons to yourself i would obviously be very happy, but it still wouldnt be the car my own £45k would go on, if you get me?

+1 Agreed. I'll quote myself (well nobody else will !) from when our young hero burst onto the scene a couple of months ago:

'Like the 335d a lot but seems a bit of an odd choice for a young lad like yourself ? Anything else on the shortlist ? Any reason you went for it ?'

(This thread and the other one about the photoshoot are a cracking laugh btw - let's keep it up !)

Why is it not a good choice of car for young lad? it looks great, has fantastic performance and is good on juice.

The only other car i would consider is the 335i which does sound much better. No quicker though stock for stock. (Have tried with friends 335i's many many times.)

But i am quite happy with my 335d, enough so that i dont feel the need to change it for a 335i. Also no re-map has yet been released for the 335i so tuning currently is a bit crude with tuning boxes and the like.

The 335d has been succesfully re-mapped and is a peach!

Not a bad choice as such (and I personally would really like a 335d so be in no doubt I think they're grrrreat !) but maybe just an unusual one ? Most young lads would spend their £40k on something more overtly sporty I'd have thought ? Or maybe I'm just horribly out of touch

For the past few months i have been thinking of selling the 335d and buying a 996 turbo. Although it would have to be a 5 year old one but i was thinking of how ballistic they are and the tunign potential. I also thought about an E60 M5.

I got talked out of it by my mates. Some of whom are young and the same age. The prefered the ''Current'' shape BMW 3 series to the ''older shape'' Porsche. In A sense i know what they mean. The 996 Turbo is a special piece of kit, and in my opinion is more of an older person car than a brand new 3 series which is very ''young man''. Especially compared to 5 series and 7 series.

Carlos

Edited by dxb335d on Monday 14th April 20:30

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dibbly_dobbler said:

dxb335d said:

dibbly_dobbler said:

AlexE46 said:

dxb335d said:

my choice of car.

Im not being arsey here, but seriously Carlos, if you had full control over the car you are driving and were handed £45k tomorrow and told to buy something... would it be a brand new 335d?

Have you grown to love the car because to all intents and purposes it was the car that you were given? We are all going to stick up for our choice of car and defend (even though we don't have to) our rationale for buying it. After all, we wouldnt be driving the car we were driving if we didnt want to... or are you?

Genuine question, as from my POV if i was pushed into a 335d for similar reasons to yourself i would obviously be very happy, but it still wouldnt be the car my own £45k would go on, if you get me?

+1 Agreed. I'll quote myself (well nobody else will !) from when our young hero burst onto the scene a couple of months ago:

'Like the 335d a lot but seems a bit of an odd choice for a young lad like yourself ? Anything else on the shortlist ? Any reason you went for it ?'

(This thread and the other one about the photoshoot are a cracking laugh btw - let's keep it up !)

Why is it not a good choice of car for young lad? it looks great, has fantastic performance and is good on juice.

The only other car i would consider is the 335i which does sound much better. No quicker though stock for stock. (Have tried with friends 335i's many many times.)

But i am quite happy with my 335d, enough so that i dont feel the need to change it for a 335i. Also no re-map has yet been released for the 335i so tuning currently is a bit crude with tuning boxes and the like.

The 335d has been succesfully re-mapped and is a peach!

Not a bad choice as such (and I personally would really like a 335d so be in no doubt I think they're grrrreat !) but maybe just an unusual one ? Most young lads would spend their £40k on something more overtly sporty I'd have thought ? Or maybe I'm just horribly out of touch

For the past few months i have been thinking of selling the 335d and buying a 996 turbo. Although it would have to be a 5 year old one but i was thinking of how ballistic they are and the tunign potential. I also thought about an E60 M5.

I got talked out of it by my mates. Some of whom are young and the same age. The prefered the ''Current'' shape BMW 3 series to the ''older shape'' Porsche. In A sense i know what they mean. The 996 Turbo is a special piece of kit, and in my opinion is more of an older person car than a brand new 3 series which is very ''young man''. Especially compared to 5 series and 7 series.

Carlos

Edited by dxb335d on Monday 14th April 20:30

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sleep envy said:

radical thought, why not make a car purchase based on its own merits rather than what others think of it?

I DID, i decided to keep the bmw, which is a fine handling bit of kit which decent poke in a straightline. Looks nice to in my opinion.

Thanks

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sleep envy said:

radical thought, why not make a car purchase based on its own merits rather than what others think of it?

All im getting at is the 3series is a young persons car. Think of how many under 25s have them. Whether it be a older one or a newer one depending on budget.

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_Lee_ said:

dibbly_dobbler said:

dxb335d said:

dibbly_dobbler said:

dxb335d said:

dibbly_dobbler said:

AlexE46 said:

dxb335d said:

my choice of car.

Im not being arsey here, but seriously Carlos, if you had full control over the car you are driving and were handed £45k tomorrow and told to buy something... would it be a brand new 335d?

Have you grown to love the car because to all intents and purposes it was the car that you were given? We are all going to stick up for our choice of car and defend (even though we don't have to) our rationale for buying it. After all, we wouldnt be driving the car we were driving if we didnt want to... or are you?

Genuine question, as from my POV if i was pushed into a 335d for similar reasons to yourself i would obviously be very happy, but it still wouldnt be the car my own £45k would go on, if you get me?

+1 Agreed. I'll quote myself (well nobody else will !) from when our young hero burst onto the scene a couple of months ago:

'Like the 335d a lot but seems a bit of an odd choice for a young lad like yourself ? Anything else on the shortlist ? Any reason you went for it ?'

(This thread and the other one about the photoshoot are a cracking laugh btw - let's keep it up !)

Why is it not a good choice of car for young lad? it looks great, has fantastic performance and is good on juice.

The only other car i would consider is the 335i which does sound much better. No quicker though stock for stock. (Have tried with friends 335i's many many times.)

But i am quite happy with my 335d, enough so that i dont feel the need to change it for a 335i. Also no re-map has yet been released for the 335i so tuning currently is a bit crude with tuning boxes and the like.

The 335d has been succesfully re-mapped and is a peach!

Not a bad choice as such (and I personally would really like a 335d so be in no doubt I think they're grrrreat !) but maybe just an unusual one ? Most young lads would spend their £40k on something more overtly sporty I'd have thought ? Or maybe I'm just horribly out of touch

For the past few months i have been thinking of selling the 335d and buying a 996 turbo. Although it would have to be a 5 year old one but i was thinking of how ballistic they are and the tunign potential. I also thought about an E60 M5.

I got talked out of it by my mates. Some of whom are young and the same age. The prefered the ''Current'' shape BMW 3 series to the Porsche. In A sense i know what they mean. The 996 Turbo is a special piece of kit, and in my opinion is more of an older person car than a brand new 3 series which is very ''young man''. Especially compared to 5 series and 7 series.

Carlos

Bah - In that case it would appear that I am out of touch ! Mind you if you got a 911 turbo you would be the king of kudos on here and doubtless have many new friends

For the cool factor which we appear to be talking about the 996TT is the king of it.

Anything this side of a M3 will always be considered a rep mobile by most as thats what most are used for. The 335 has a great engine but to most it's indistinguishable from any other 3 series and there are a lot of them.

I don't mean any of this in a derogative way but maybe your friends are just being kind and not really truthful.

Really?
Why would they? I said i might get one, they told me not too. How on earth is that them not being truthful!

To younger people, newer cars are more appealing that an out of date porker. The older 996 turbo does not cut it for them (i like it by the way and would still consider one) so they think the 335 is pretty special being the newer car on the block and still with some performance and good looks. To some the 996 looks somewhat dated.

The new E92 does not.

Just accept it, some people prefer a newer BMW (still a quality car even if it aint an old Porsche) to an older Porsche.

Soem other people cant stand newer cars, and like older classics. Some people just cant stand BMWS which is unfortunate, there very good cars. Their loss not mine.


Carlos

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Mattt said:

By younger people, I assume you mean those who know nothing about cars. I know plenty of 'younger people', myself included, that would judge a car based upon more than its age & looks.

I don't know how anyone can say a 996TT looks worse than a 335d.

They never said it looks worse,just they prefered the E92.

Everyone has an opinion mate, some may differ to yours

_Lee_ said:

Strange reply.

A 996TT doesn't cut it? They really must be clueless about cars.

For me the CSL is one of the greatest cars of our time, although I guess that wouldn't cut it either with your friends with it being outdated and all.

Anyway good luck with it, from a BMW fan.

Lee.

I agree, i have driven a CSL and loved every minute of it! A great car i would love one.

The CSL outdated? by what? the New CSL is not out yet!

I would not sell the 335d for the CSL. Now if i could have both. Id love it!

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Mattt said:

By younger people, I assume you mean those who know nothing about cars. I know plenty of 'younger people', myself included, that would judge a car based upon more than its age & looks.

I don't know how anyone can say a 996TT looks worse than a 335d.

You must also appreciate then that the E92 is a fien handling car?! No?

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Mattt said:

dxb335d said:

Mattt said:

By younger people, I assume you mean those who know nothing about cars. I know plenty of 'younger people', myself included, that would judge a car based upon more than its age & looks.

I don't know how anyone can say a 996TT looks worse than a 335d.

You must also appreciate then that the E92 is a fien handling car?! No?

Never driven an E92 - latest BMW was an E46 M3, and I liked it, so I'm sure the E92 is more than competant.

I'm not saying the 335d is a bad car, it is good at what it does - but it is not in the same league as a F355 or 996TT, as they are designed for different things. If I were to have one car, the 335d is a great all rounder and would feature in a list of possibles, but if I wanted a 'sports car' - then no chance.

I never said it was a supercar, for which your comparing it. Im just saying im happy with what ive got. The 996 turbo would be a dream weekend car for me for sure. Shame you think the 335d is lacking sprtiness, it certainly isnt on the move and easily lives with 335i's in stock form. Chipped 335d adn its quicker. Im very sure round a track there would not be much in it as the chassis are exactly the same.

Anyone in the market for a 40+k car would not do wrong in buying either. Both the 335d and 996 turbo both have there merits. Both are fine cars in there own right.

We must agree on this. Both very different but both very good!

whoami said:

dxb335d said:

Mattt said:

By younger people, I assume you mean those who know nothing about cars. I know plenty of 'younger people', myself included, that would judge a car based upon more than its age & looks.

I don't know how anyone can say a 996TT looks worse than a 335d.

You must also appreciate then that the E92 is a fien handling car?! No?

Compared to what?

any car in its class mate. Always comes out on top.

Edited by dxb335d on Monday 14th April 22:36

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sleep envy said:

dxb335d said:

Edited by dxb335d on Monday 14th April 22:36

wise to edit that - I don't think a 335d would have an RS4 either

No nor do i, i know round one track the 335i was quicker!

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NightDriver said:

335d is a very good car, no doubt - I had one for a few months last year. However, its a diesel 3 series. To drive, they are not hugely exciting, not hugely involving and not that pretty. A 996/997Turbo on the other hand is a completely different beast and I think even trying to make the comparison between the Porsche and the BMW is an insult to the Porsche!

With a choice of those two cars I would not even need to think, as a car lover the Porsche is clearly the only choice. I'm not saying the 335d is not a great car, its just not in the same league as a 996 turbo.

I love the 997 Turbo. I went out in one last week, what an amazing car. I want one so badly... Just soooooo expensive!

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Your the guys who keep saying the 335d isnt all that.

Would you all be acting the same if i didnt have a satan fueled 335. If it were a petrol would it be acceptable then?

The 335i has nothing over the 335d apart from the sound. It does sound nice.

Both great cars. Just you guys hate diesel right!

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Hi Guy im back.


RTight, i paid for the car in December, after having the car as my own without costing me anything (bar insurance for a short while and fuel) since march 07. Not that i should have to explain anything to anyone about my situation really. But as your all showing a bleedin interest (cue the ''i aint interested in you blah blah'' comments... WHY the hell do some of you keep asking then...?!)

Company insurance, so insuring a 996 turbo aint an issue. Even on my own name i doubt it would be more than 1500 quid.

Regarding finding a corner. The car handles very well considering its lack of an LSD. But thats evolution for you. Im sure a modern day BMW will outhandle an older M model just through evolution alone. If they dont then BMW are doing something wrong. I have a mate whose tracked his stock 335d and lives with his mates M coupe all day long. So its not an ill handling car just because its a heavy diesel engined large barge coupe. It aint no supercar but does handle for its size very well.

What it does, it does well.

I am very happy with it and yet to come across a 335d owner whose not happy with theirs.

It is sporty enough to drive. It has ''soul'' so to speak and isnt a bland piece of engineering which i believe some cars are.

I enjoy my car, you enjoy your car.. lets all group hug!


Carlos

Edited by dxb335d on Tuesday 15th April 19:04