535d owners - question for you.

535d owners - question for you.

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Welshbeef

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Tuesday 9th September 2008
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@70mph what revs are you pulling in 6th gear - know its an auto.

Also what is the instanious MPG at that readout?

Im aware that the 330d is 1750rpm @70mph and the MPG of the 231bhp version is well over 50mpg.

Thanks.

Welshbeef

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Tuesday 9th September 2008
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r3nuf said:
Ditto...will set the cruise at 70 mph on way home tonight...perhaps not as i go up and over the Orwell Bridge though!
Im expecting some very good results here.
Could you state if its an LCI car or not i.e. 272bhp or 286bhp or 286bhp with efficient dynamics.

Many thanks.

Welshbeef

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Tuesday 9th September 2008
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pgilc1 said:
On average it was coming up at 42.8mpg. Now with a slight decline in the road i could see 50mpg no problem but where the road seemed to be flattest it was 42.8. Approx 1650 rpm

Thats for a 2005 535d Sport, 43K miles, 272BHP model

Edited by pgilc1 on Tuesday 9th September 19:08
Very impressive indeed, not being rude but would I be ball park right that yours might be worth around the low £20k's?age/milage

Welshbeef

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Tuesday 9th September 2008
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pgilc1 said:
Welshbeef said:
r3nuf said:
Ditto...will set the cruise at 70 mph on way home tonight...perhaps not as i go up and over the Orwell Bridge though!
Im expecting some very good results here.
Could you state if its an LCI car or not i.e. 272bhp or 286bhp or 286bhp with efficient dynamics.

Many thanks.
All 286BHP versions have ED.
And ED came in Mar07?
If so given the OP managed 42.5mpg and could see a 50mpg on a slight downhill - how much more MPG would the ED obtain?

Welshbeef

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Wednesday 10th September 2008
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r3nuf said:
Well....my 535d is a Sept 07 Lci 286bhp model and the rev counter was telling me approx 1650 rpm at 70mph.

With a good mix of driving speeds and roads, the onboard puter suggests that i normally acheive an average 36.5mpg

Cruising at 70mph, it would appear to hover around 45-50mpg

HTH!
It seems like its geared to 42.42mph/1000rpm in 6th gear

2k= 85mph
3k= 127mph
4k= 170mph
5k= 212mph

So at the speed limiter 155mph your doing 3,650rpm thats remarkable.

MPG readout - many thanks chaps thats exactly what I wanted to hear, been hearing so much negatives about the MPG with some people just getting low to mid 20's out of the 272bhp & then the 286bhp is about 30mpg this clearly shows that you can get very good mpg. (I guess the OP who have the low MPG's are either in heavy traffic or they use a lot of the performance).


If I were to buy one of the 272bhp Sports from BMW AUC and say it was up for £20k how much less should I big in the current climate? Would it be sensible to go in maybe £3k or even £4k under asking price then walk out and see if they call me back with a counter offer?


Welshbeef

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Wednesday 10th September 2008
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Very unlikely they will accept, as BMW margins just aren't that high (unlike Porsche).

You may hit lucky, and it's worth giving it a go, but even in this market a grand knocked off the price is a decent result (and I'm somebody who loves to haggle and usually gets good prices).
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I'd have expected more than that!
£1k off a £20k car is a mere 5% saving - I would have expected that in normal market conditions.


I think though if you do go in too low you will just look/sound like a messer/tyre kicker and not a true buyer so finding the correct % off screen price is the key I feel 5% is way too little but then again it depends on what the asking price is and its options/milage

Welshbeef

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Wednesday 10th September 2008
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rossfitz said:
I had a go at this and on a 2005 535d (272) at 70mph had 1650 with what seems like a very poor 30.9 mpg. Don't think I had the handbrake on either!
That is poor - was that average MPG or instant mpg>? If its instant and not a steep gradient then maybe your using a lesser grade diesel or your injectors are a little clogged or some other reason (low pressure in tyres)?

IMHO there shoud be no difference in cars 535d 272bhp in the UK @ this suggested test speed if there is then there must be something wrong.

Welshbeef

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Wednesday 10th September 2008
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rossfitz said:
Instant reading. I did hear about some cars being set up for American gallon readings which can be changed on the computer, but I could never work out where to go to check.

Best check the tyres.
I'd try this a couple more times.

Also try it at 60mph & 50mph and quote your readouts here - Im sure some fellow PHers will/could do the same and that will indicate if there is a disparity.
Its probably tyre inflation - also tyre make/tread pattern makes a difference too. Plus was your car fully laiden/full tank of fuel/touring vs saloon?

Still IMHO the gap is too much - OR your car is a little/lot more tired than the other persons

Welshbeef

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Wednesday 10th September 2008
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rossfitz said:
It is a touring which probably make a bit of difference.
So it should be a bit lower but not that much.

Welshbeef

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Wednesday 10th September 2008
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I very nearly bought a 330d M Sport Auto Leather today 2 yrs old BUT the Mrs text me saying PLEASE dont spend the wedding pot....
hmm.

Welshbeef

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Thursday 11th September 2008
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Paul R said:
Spend the wedding pot, why do you want to pay sheds loads of money for everyone else to have a nice time eating your food and drinking your wine!!? laugh And it's all over in a day. Go on go on go on, you know you want to evil
lol No all that has been partially paid for in deposits - so doing that suggestion would = loss of deposit and then the need to find another caterer etc for original cost less lost deposit less a bit more...frankly not easy at all.

Rest is Honeymoom £.

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Thursday 11th September 2008
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Junior Mint said:
Holy crap. I bought my 55 reg 535d M Sport Touring from a dealer for £32,000 with 29k on the clock last July. Is it really only worth £20k now?

Oh well, just as well I mentally write the value off when I've bought a car. That's really good value if you can get one now for low £20k's.
Well its losing £ every day like every car - the thing is people are downsizing /not changing so suddenly less demand and less customers to buy your car hence its worth less.

I mean frankly there is nothing wrong with a Leon Curpa TDI 150bhp one could eek out a few more years without really suffering that much from not having the daddy 535d & then buy it for half of what it is today.

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Thursday 11th September 2008
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dxb335d said:
Mine on flat level road at 70mph and 1/4 throttle is well over 45mpg. on the needle.
272 or 286?
Thnx

Welshbeef

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Thursday 11th September 2008
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dxb335d said:
jollygreen said:
Anyone know what chipping these things does to fuel economy?
Not much. Mine has always been pretty bad.
Well given what you stated 45mpg + & 70mph your clearly driving it very hard a lot of the time as if you wanted & restrained a little you could get exceptional MPG for the petformance.

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Sunday 14th September 2008
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juliann said:
10 Miles of 70mph @ c. 1600 RPM from my Jan 05 build 535d M Sport Touring (131,000 miles)

Got too boring to do any more than that !

It really is the ultimate real world car. Great performance, good efficiency, practical & looks good.

Do you have the Business Nav or is it Pro but as you have other info on your idrive does it shrink the Nav until you have finished with the screen?

Welshbeef

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Monday 15th September 2008
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juliann said:
It's pro with voice activation/address input. The Nav (or any other function) only ever uses the left hand larger portion of the screen. The smaller r/h area can be set to nothing/map/computer/nav arrow view and probably one or two other things I've forgotten.
When it comes to replacement time currently would it just be the newer 535d with the 286bhp unit or would it be a 335d?


With the latest 330d pushing out 245bhp up 14bhp on the old one I wonder how long it will be before BMW up the ante again with the x35d unit? What will it be next over 300bhp std.... & probably better MPG to boot.

As a brand BMW pretty much has it all wrapped up.