335d vs 330d - Question for dxb335d

[shamrock]

dxb335d,

I've noticed the claims regarding the performance of your remapped 335d and I was wondering how it would compare to a 330d remapped to 290bhp & 500ft/lbs torque.

What sort of difference would you expect there to be when rolling?

Kill it, marginal difference or dead heat?

[shamrock]

Sorry Neil but I am genuinely interested in his response.

Thanks noumenon, I'm wondering what real world difference there would be if both cars were rolling at say 20mph and took it upto say 100mph.

Does the 335d leave the 330d for dead or is it a car length or two?

Edited by shamrock on Wednesday 14th January 13:10

[shamrock]

Cyclone1 said:

I think the OP is asking what the difference would be between a remapped 335d and 330d. To put it into DXB speak I would say it would be around a 0.8sec over the 1/4 mile (13.2 v 14.0secs), might not sound a lot but it's quite a few car lengths.

Jules.

Well a remapped 335d to whatever ft/lbs torqure dxb335d has vs remapped 330d to 290bhp 500ft / lbs torque.

I'm not so interested in the 1/4 as that includes a standing start, I'm more interested in a rolling race - where the 335d has the supposed advantage over other cars.

[shamrock]

Cyclone1 said:

shamrock said:

Cyclone1 said:

I think the OP is asking what the difference would be between a remapped 335d and 330d. To put it into DXB speak I would say it would be around a 0.8sec over the 1/4 mile (13.2 v 14.0secs), might not sound a lot but it's quite a few car lengths.

Jules.

Well a remapped 335d to whatever ft/lbs torqure dxb335d has vs remapped 330d to 290bhp 500ft / lbs torque.

I'm not so interested in the 1/4 as that includes a standing start, I'm more interested in a rolling race - where the 335d has the supposed advantage over other cars.

Well if it's 350bhp and 520lb/ft v 290bhp and 500lb/ft in roughly the same weighted car then I would expect the 335d to show the 330d a clean pair of heels, the 335d holds it's power and torque much better than the single turbo'd 330d.

I am sure Carlos will be along shortly.......

Jules.

Thanks, so it seems like a convincing killing for the 335d.

[shamrock]

Cyclone1 said:

shamrock said:

Cyclone1 said:

shamrock said:

Cyclone1 said:

I think the OP is asking what the difference would be between a remapped 335d and 330d. To put it into DXB speak I would say it would be around a 0.8sec over the 1/4 mile (13.2 v 14.0secs), might not sound a lot but it's quite a few car lengths.

Jules.

Well a remapped 335d to whatever ft/lbs torqure dxb335d has vs remapped 330d to 290bhp 500ft / lbs torque.

I'm not so interested in the 1/4 as that includes a standing start, I'm more interested in a rolling race - where the 335d has the supposed advantage over other cars.

Well if it's 350bhp and 520lb/ft v 290bhp and 500lb/ft in roughly the same weighted car then I would expect the 335d to show the 330d a clean pair of heels, the 335d holds it's power and torque much better than the single turbo'd 330d.

I am sure Carlos will be along shortly.......

Jules.

Thanks, so it seems like a convincing killing for the 335d.

For the very rare occurance that a mapped 335d and 330d should be alongside each other on a private road then yes.

Much appreciated

[shamrock]

dxb335d said:

Hi shamrock.

A re-mapped 330d will give close to stock 335d perfomance, i dont think it will beat it though. Maybe i could be proved wrong?

I have been a passenger in a re-mapped 330d, it went very well.

Re-mapped 335d compared to re-mapped 330d. The 335d will have an even bigger advantage.

Why is it that your interested?


thanks

Lad at work just purchased a 330D M Sport which was already mapped to something like 500ft/lbs torque.

I jokingly mentioned that it's no remapped 335d but he's never seen this forum so he didn't get it and just kept saying there was no difference between his 330d and a remapped 335d.

It just got me thinking as to what real world difference would there be as he seems to be quite the petrolhead (or should I say dieselhead) and swears there is no real world difference.

He had a run down the M1 with one of the other lads who has an E36 M3 Evo Cabriolet and they said there was no real difference in acceleration, the E36 just having a slight edge every now and then. They were out for about 2 hours thrashing up and down the M1.

That got me thinking about the whole E36/E46 M3 performance vs 335d, if his remapped 330d is identical in performance to your 335d, but that would seem not to be the case as the majority of comments suggest the 335d clearly pulls away from the 330d when rolling.

Thanks

[shamrock]

JeffC said:

I will be able to answer the o/ps questions soon, I had a 335d for 18months which i sold, it had a very strong map fitted and it really was balistically quick to the point of Rs4 quick, Ive just today picked up its replacement an E90 330D manual, which will be getting a strong map fitted in the next week or so, driving the 330d standard its not that exciting, its nippy and I much prefer the manual box!! Ive just done a 200 mile trip collecting it and the mpg compared to the 335d is amazing Ive got a range of 700 miles on the tank

I drove a 330d E90 that I had a strong map installed , this was just before i got shot of my 335d , we never had them side by side but bottom end they felt comparable but I noticed my 335d revved a lot stronger and performance was noticabley better top end of the rev counter and above 3 figures in favour of the twin turbo.. In the real world of day to day driving a drive in my pals 330d manual inspired me to change , the 330d is always 10mpg over the 335d and enough power to take swmbo on the school run

It will be interesting to see what you make of the performance difference in the real world.

My colleague still insists that there's nothing between him, a remapped 335d and an E36 M3 Evo Vert. I'm not looking to prove him wrong as he's a decent guy and seems to know his stuff, it's purely out of interest having read all the internet spiel about the remapped 335d.

dxb335d said:

squeezebm said:

dxb335d said:

Thats all fair enough mate. But I find all that comes pretty naturally anyhow. I can appreciate though if it didnt come naturally and being told it and then putting it into practise would make you a better driver.

Carl you are a GOD

thanks calvin mate. How is the big old beast of an M///



Back on topic anyhow, 335d is quicker than a 330d 245.

But both cracking cars. I advise anyone to test drive both and then make a decision. Being politically correct etc LOL...

Really if you want the faster car then go straight for the 335d If you want a manual drivers car buy an elise LOL

Sorry for being pedantic dxb but the topic is remapped 335d at (what sort of torque is your 335d?) vs remapped 330d at 500ft/lbs torque - the real world difference when rolling

[shamrock]

Cyclone1 said:

shamrock said:

Sorry for being pedantic dxb but the topic is remapped 335d at (what sort of torque is your 335d?) vs remapped 330d at 500ft/lbs torque - the real world difference when rolling

Shamrock as you've possibly picked up on by now I drive a remapped 335d. I've ran it at a couple of VMAX events and twice at Fighting Torque (do a search on here for more details) and took part in a comparison of mapped, standard and press 335's for BMW Car Magazine. As honest as your friend is about his 330d it will not stay with a remapped 335d once rolling. Approximate figures for a remapped 335d are anywhere from 330bhp-360bhp and 480lb/ft-560lb/ft, but please remember that figures quoted by owners or found on the web are only a guide as different rolling roads can yield different or at times inaccurate figures.

Hope this helps
Jules.

That's conclusive enough for me - much appreciated, my curiosity has now been satisfied