Knees down! whats going wrong here...

Knees down! whats going wrong here...

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sammy_bibs

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192 posts

208 months

Thursday 12th April 2007
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Hi,

Recently had new rear tire fitted and she's wearing in ok most of the way round but getting to them evil edges is proving to be a real pain! I seem to have a lot more fear on the road than on the track, however I want to clarify that I am not killing my bike the way I am riding it.

I have a nice roundabout just near me, that offers 2 long swooping bends to get down on (I see them all the time at it) anyhow I am going round this at about 30Mph in 1st gear at about 9500 revs on my CBR600. Would I be better of trying higher gear lower revs? I understand the 60/40 ratio but I fear that if I drop a gear and drop the revs the bike will just slide out once I get it down (if ever!).

Can you share you wise and wonderfull wisdom on this one?

Does anyone else favour going down one side over the other? My left chicken wing is 5*bigger than right!

Sam..

biker's nemesis

38,852 posts

210 months

Thursday 12th April 2007
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sammy_bibs said:
Hi,

Recently had new rear tire fitted and she's wearing in ok most of the way round but getting to them evil edges is proving to be a real pain! I seem to have a lot more fear on the road than on the track, however I want to clarify that I am not killing my bike the way I am riding it.

I have a nice roundabout just near me, that offers 2 long swooping bends to get down on (I see them all the time at it) anyhow I am going round this at about 30Mph in 1st gear at about 9500 revs on my CBR600. Would I be better of trying higher gear lower revs? I understand the 60/40 ratio but I fear that if I drop a gear and drop the revs the bike will just slide out once I get it down (if ever!).

Can you share you wise and wonderfull wisdom on this one?

Does anyone else favour going down one side over the other? My left chicken wing is 5*bigger than right!

Sam..


There is absolutely no point in getting your knee down on the road.

You're heading for the mother of all highsides at nearly ten thousand rev's in first geareek

If you must though, try third gear and shift one of your cheeks (arse) off the side of the seat and push your knee down to the tarmac.

If at first you don't succeed, repeat until you do or fall off through being dizzy.hehe

Like I said it's not only a bad idea but illegal.

Be safe

John.

sammy_bibs

Original Poster:

192 posts

208 months

Thursday 12th April 2007
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It's againt the law? Really, I did not know this. Ho hum, what would they do if they caught you? just a stiff word/warning or worse points!

So what your saying is the bike will hold the edge of the tyre at low 5-6K revs in a higher gear?

Cheers :P

DamienCBR

2,037 posts

225 months

Thursday 12th April 2007
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Got to be honest and say getting you knee down is fun. However in 1st at those revs it is just a matter of time. Getting you knee down is all about keeping it smooth, you do not need the revs to be high at all, balance and position inkeeping with smooth acceleration.

My right knee was always better for me, going round roundabouts i guess. You are better of doing on a track though. I was going round a left and my knee was no where near the ground and the back went. I crashed into the central barrier and broke my shoulder and wrote of a 5 week old bike. Why???? Diesel, you will find more shite and diesel on corner and roundabouts from when the lorrys go round the bends.

D

DamienCBR

2,037 posts

225 months

Thursday 12th April 2007
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Got to be honest and say getting you knee down is fun. However in 1st at those revs it is just a matter of time. Getting you knee down is all about keeping it smooth, you do not need the revs to be high at all, balance and position inkeeping with smooth acceleration.

My right knee was always better for me, going round roundabouts i guess. You are better of doing on a track though. I was going round a left and my knee was no where near the ground and the back went. I crashed into the central barrier and broke my shoulder and wrote of a 5 week old bike. Why???? Diesel, you will find more shite and diesel on corner and roundabouts from when the lorrys go round the bends.

D

biker's nemesis

38,852 posts

210 months

Thursday 12th April 2007
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sammy_bibs said:
It's againt the law? Really, I did not know this. Ho hum, what would they do if they caught you? just a stiff word/warning or worse points!

So what your saying is the bike will hold the edge of the tyre at low 5-6K revs in a higher gear?

Cheers :P



Depends on the copper but It's dangerous/without due care if you're unlucky enough to get caught.

5-6K should be OK as your not wanting hard acceleration when cranked right over on the side of the tyre. Oh and don't forget to warm your tyres before attempting this.

shout
Edited to add: I do not condone this for the road.


Edited by biker's nemesis on Thursday 12th April 21:10

sammy_bibs

Original Poster:

192 posts

208 months

Thursday 12th April 2007
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Yea I have been warned of fuel spill's secret hiding places, never did cross my mind though. Unfourtunatly I have little free time in which to goto the track as work just never lets me know when I will be free, and by then everythings booked up! =(

As for getting doen with the knee, it's just a matter or self gain if you will, I want to further my riding abilty and this is my current goal. And it looks fun xD

Sam.

shot2bits

1,273 posts

230 months

Thursday 12th April 2007
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Never had my knee down on the road - mainly because I don't stick my knee out! At Snetterton, my knee is down on nearly all corners. I wouldn't bother on the road, you generally don't get too may opportunities being that you can never really trust whats on the surface - e.g. oil etc.

Do a track day... Having said all this, I don't have any chicken strips so must be getting the bike over enough for knee down...

sammy_bibs

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192 posts

208 months

Thursday 12th April 2007
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Bloody chicken strips......

hobo

5,772 posts

248 months

Thursday 12th April 2007
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Any old idiot can get there knee down yes

I cannot count the number of pr!cks I've gone past at Cadwell who's sole intention to to scrape thier knee at every corner. It doesn't seem to matter to them that they are slow as f@ck.

Kn0bs.

Concentrate on being smooth & the rest follows automatically.

shot2bits

1,273 posts

230 months

Thursday 12th April 2007
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hobo said:
Any old idiot can get there knee down yes

I cannot count the number of pr!cks I've gone past at Cadwell who's sole intention to to scrape thier knee at every corner. It doesn't seem to matter to them that they are slow as f@ck.

Kn0bs.

Concentrate on being smooth & the rest follows automatically.


Good point!

sammy_bibs

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192 posts

208 months

Thursday 12th April 2007
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Mmm, it's just getting that trust/fear barrier broken I think. Once thats done then well, your away.

Alex@POD

6,187 posts

217 months

Thursday 12th April 2007
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I remember I used to try and get my knee down on my TZR 50... Anyway, what do you call chicken strips? I've never come accross the term before?

sammy_bibs

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192 posts

208 months

Thursday 12th April 2007
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The edge of the type, different texture as it's never had contact with the ground.. :P

Alex@POD

6,187 posts

217 months

Thursday 12th April 2007
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thumbup Out of interest, why are they called that?

sammy_bibs

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192 posts

208 months

Thursday 12th April 2007
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Beats me :P

rsvmilly

11,288 posts

243 months

Thursday 12th April 2007
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Alex@POD said:
thumbup Out of interest, why are they called that?
Because how big they are is how big a chicken you are

sammy_bibs

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192 posts

208 months

Thursday 12th April 2007
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Lol, makes sense. =)

Alex@POD

6,187 posts

217 months

Thursday 12th April 2007
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rsvmilly said:
Alex@POD said:
thumbup Out of interest, why are they called that?
Because how big they are is how big a chicken you are


hehe Well mine are pretty big as far as I remember, but then again I haven't ridden the bike yet...

Rawwr

22,722 posts

236 months

Thursday 12th April 2007
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Alex@POD said:
Anyway, what do you call chicken strips?