Speed Triple 1200 RS issues

Speed Triple 1200 RS issues

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PIGINAWIG

2,339 posts

167 months

Monday 14th February 2022
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Toxic.....

........come to the orange side......

Biker 1

7,770 posts

121 months

Tuesday 15th February 2022
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PIGINAWIG said:
Toxic.....

........come to the orange side......
Or buy something Japanese!!
I read somewhere that Yamaha have exceptionally low warranty issues & very few product recalls. KTM on the other hand: I'm not convinced about some of their build quality issues....

Freakuk

3,206 posts

153 months

Tuesday 15th February 2022
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Max5476 said:
anonymous said:
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When I wrote off my speedmaster at 600 miles and 5 months it was a standard brand new replacement - no questions and no additional gap insurance required. I actually negotiated them to a cash payout as I wanted a different bike.
I came off a new ZX-6R many many years ago now, I'd done less than a 1000 miles, stupidly it was my first bike I'd literally run it in and misjudged a series of fast sweeping bends. Bike was a right off and I got a direct replacement from the insurance no questions asked.

KTMsm

26,973 posts

265 months

Tuesday 15th February 2022
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Freakuk said:
Max5476 said:
anonymous said:
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When I wrote off my speedmaster at 600 miles and 5 months it was a standard brand new replacement - no questions and no additional gap insurance required. I actually negotiated them to a cash payout as I wanted a different bike.
I came off a new ZX-6R many many years ago now, I'd done less than a 1000 miles, stupidly it was my first bike I'd literally run it in and misjudged a series of fast sweeping bends. Bike was a right off and I got a direct replacement from the insurance no questions asked.
Interesting - makes you wonder why so many buy gap insurance - possibly more relevant to cars, where the amounts are far higher so the insurers wriggle more

Never having bought anything new, I've never had to worry about it but have seen many tales on here

podman

8,893 posts

242 months

Tuesday 15th February 2022
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KTMsm said:
Freakuk said:
Max5476 said:
anonymous said:
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When I wrote off my speedmaster at 600 miles and 5 months it was a standard brand new replacement - no questions and no additional gap insurance required. I actually negotiated them to a cash payout as I wanted a different bike.
I came off a new ZX-6R many many years ago now, I'd done less than a 1000 miles, stupidly it was my first bike I'd literally run it in and misjudged a series of fast sweeping bends. Bike was a right off and I got a direct replacement from the insurance no questions asked.
Interesting - makes you wonder why so many buy gap insurance - possibly more relevant to cars, where the amounts are far higher so the insurers wriggle more

Never having bought anything new, I've never had to worry about it but have seen many tales on here
Gap insurance is only really worth it in years 2,3+...When they bike/vehicle has devalued considerably from new but the "gap" tween that and the finance is normally at its greatest.

Of course, you cant take out gap insurance in years 2+



Bob_Defly

3,749 posts

233 months

Tuesday 15th February 2022
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anonymous said:
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Apparently insurers are opting to pay to fix stuff that they would normally write off at the moment, due to the shortage of new bikes/cars.

KTMsm

26,973 posts

265 months

Tuesday 15th February 2022
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Bob_Defly said:
Apparently insurers are opting to pay to fix stuff that they would normally write off at the moment, due to the shortage of new bikes/cars.
Looking at the quote they won't be fixing that officially - I suspect a private person who's happy to put up with scratches could fix it cheap enough to be worthwhile

the cueball

1,210 posts

57 months

Tuesday 15th February 2022
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Sorry to hear about the bike… did you have a airbag jacket on?

How did that hold up/fair in the crash?

carinaman

21,383 posts

174 months

Tuesday 15th February 2022
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rat840771

2,023 posts

167 months

Tuesday 15th February 2022
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Heartbreaking to read this

I have been so lucky in my 30 years of riding to never have a hiccup on a bike or even have reliability issues ( even with the current KTM1290 SDR, 4000 miles in and I can’t even find a fault to claim on)

Reading this thread has put me off triumphs.

cpszx

127 posts

159 months

Wednesday 16th February 2022
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Gutting to see that after your previous hassles and great result. Great that you got away relatively unscathed though.

I had a very similar accident a few years ago, on the Tiger courtesy bike, on my way back to the dealer to pick my bike up after a service.

Approaching a completely open T junction, down to ~30mph, pushed the bar to tip in and cut the junction right and the bike went down and slid straight into the kerb across the top of the junction. Damaged the frame and wrote the bike off. Big courtesy bike excess as well. frown

1 second i was up, the next i was down and sliding. Still don't know how it happened, other than it was January, so possibly ice on the road, or was on the white line and was wet? Although it was 5 or 6 degrees and sunny at the time.

tim0409

4,508 posts

161 months

Wednesday 16th February 2022
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I've been reading this thread and was delighted when Triumph sorted you out....then my heart sank!

I'm sure you will get a new bike and before long this will be nothing but a distant memory. I was trying to imagine how you might be feeling, then I remembered I know exactly how you feel! I hit a deer with my 2 week old Speed Triple back in 2010; the insurers repaired it but I sold it within a week of getting it back. I posted about it a couple of years later when the memory wasn't quite so painful.


MrGman

1,593 posts

208 months

Wednesday 16th February 2022
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rat840771 said:
Heartbreaking to read this

I have been so lucky in my 30 years of riding to never have a hiccup on a bike or even have reliability issues ( even with the current KTM1290 SDR, 4000 miles in and I can’t even find a fault to claim on)

Reading this thread has put me off triumphs.
And this is the problem for triumph, a few stories like we’ve been seeing can really hurt your reputation, top of my new bike list are both the SDR and 1200 RS, the RS was always one step ahead because of triumphs reliability in my experience, I’m not so sure it’s still ahead anymore.

Fonzo

152 posts

61 months

Wednesday 16th February 2022
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This is making me reconsider a Trident 660 as my first bike when I pass my test. That being said it's not a massively head driven decision, so I'll probably still go for it.

SteveKTMer

798 posts

33 months

Wednesday 16th February 2022
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MrGman said:
And this is the problem for triumph, a few stories like we’ve been seeing can really hurt your reputation, top of my new bike list are both the SDR and 1200 RS, the RS was always one step ahead because of triumphs reliability in my experience, I’m not so sure it’s still ahead anymore.
A friend of mine runs a motorbike repair/MoT/Service shop and he has for years told people to be wary of Triumphs, based on the number he gets in which need gearbox and electrical work amongst the usual issues.

I remember parking up at Hunstanton in 2008 next to my friend who had a Triumph 675 and telling him his bike was dripping oil and water - his response was it always did that, and it wasn't very old then.

The only Triumph I've had I wrote off in 6 days, but it was nice while it lasted ! smile

poo at Paul's

14,209 posts

177 months

Wednesday 16th February 2022
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If a bike cuts out at speed though, why would it just crash?
Low speed, yes, I can see that, toppling off if engine cuts and you’re in a slow speed manoeuvre, but at 60 odd mph, it would not cause you to just crash.
Even a huge rear end lock up, eg seizing up, it would give yiu some warning and there’d be a big darkie etc. but if the motor just turned off, at like 60, you’d just slow down and come to rest, not immediately bin it.

I think your clutching at straws, tbh, but I’d agree it is worth reconsidering whether a new bike will be one you’re happy with. Seems like a golden opportunity to go try another machine or manufacturer.

jason61c

5,978 posts

176 months

Wednesday 16th February 2022
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Bloody hell. what a read. Glad you're ok.

Go and buy an Aprilia tuono 1100. really nicely made, great suspension. Great quality.


Steve Bass

10,229 posts

235 months

Wednesday 16th February 2022
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faaaack.. can't believe this. But thank heavens you're ok and able to talk about it. st happens as they say,

On the other side however, as Birky and Jason have said, close the curtain on the 1200RS and go get yourself a Tuono 1100 Factory and live your best life......

Honestly, you won't regret it

Bob_Defly

3,749 posts

233 months

Thursday 17th February 2022
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Given that every bike has a 6 axis wazoo with TC, AW, LABS, BLA, BLA, BLA would you expect the electronics to do anything at all here?

Should it have cut power at the first sign of a slide?

shurm

329 posts

250 months

Thursday 17th February 2022
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Just seen this glad your all ok mate.