BSB 2024 Grids

[slopes]

graeme4130 said:

I've no idea if the Shakey team is happening or not now, or any of the details, but I can't be the only one that thinks it's be amazing if it does
BSB could do with some new teams at the Sharp end

Oh totally agree if is true, another team to mix it up the front can only be good for the series and i so hope it is true even if Brad Ray doesn 't come back.

[slopes]

slopes said:

Zarco said:

graeme4130 said:

slopes said:

Taz confirmed on the Superbike for MIE
Perie confirmed with Lee Hardy
Stacey confirmed at GR Motorsport
Nesbitt allegedly being retained by Hawk

No news on Owens as of yet, TAG racing still to confirm i believe

Edited by slopes on Saturday 18th November 11:21

Spud has re-signed with Hawk and Tag have a deal with a Brit on their superbike for next year, which will be announced at the bike show in the next few days (as a clue, he had a bit of time off and then came back and did a round of stock and a short outing on the pathway bike end of this season)

Fraser Rogers?

Pretty sure he is racing an Aprillia V4 for IN Competition in the Pathway class but if the person alluded to above is who i think it is, he left a championship winning team, allegedly was taking a break from racing, came back at Cadwell and did quite well.

Apparently i was wrong and Rogers is riding for TAG Racing next year, must have just been an end of season deal with IN Competition

[graeme4130]

slopes said:

slopes said:

Zarco said:

graeme4130 said:

slopes said:

Taz confirmed on the Superbike for MIE
Perie confirmed with Lee Hardy
Stacey confirmed at GR Motorsport
Nesbitt allegedly being retained by Hawk

No news on Owens as of yet, TAG racing still to confirm i believe

Edited by slopes on Saturday 18th November 11:21

Spud has re-signed with Hawk and Tag have a deal with a Brit on their superbike for next year, which will be announced at the bike show in the next few days (as a clue, he had a bit of time off and then came back and did a round of stock and a short outing on the pathway bike end of this season)

Fraser Rogers?

Pretty sure he is racing an Aprillia V4 for IN Competition in the Pathway class but if the person alluded to above is who i think it is, he left a championship winning team, allegedly was taking a break from racing, came back at Cadwell and did quite well.

Apparently i was wrong and Rogers is riding for TAG Racing next year, must have just been an end of season deal with IN Competition

One team needed cash bringing and the other didn’t

[graeme4130]

[slopes]

I think because he rode the Pathway spec RSV4 at Brands for the finale, i assumed that was his ride for next year.

You know what they say about assumptions....

[tinhead]

slopes said:

I think because he rode the Pathway spec RSV4 at Brands for the finale, i assumed that was his ride for next year.

You know what they say about assumptions....

Thats a shame, would be great have an RSV4 in the superbike class, just for the sound alone

Does anybody know if they're keeping the same points scoring/showdown rules for next year?

[Thou]

graeme4130 said:

I've no idea if the Shakey team is happening or not now, or any of the details, but I can't be the only one that thinks it's be amazing if it does
BSB could do with some new teams at the Sharp end

Would be great, but who would sponsor it? Sponsorship deals seem incredibly thin on the ground these days. No doubt Shakey has a couple of quid but I can’t imagine him having the means to fund a competitive team from him and his partner’s pockets alone, although I guess he likely has many contacts who’d each chip in some sponsorship money!

slopes said:

I think because he rode the Pathway spec RSV4 at Brands for the finale, i assumed that was his ride for next year.

You know what they say about assumptions....

I’m sure it was confirmed somewhere, as I remember reading it too - maybe it was just confirmed in this thread

graeme4130 said:

That’ll be a career disaster for him then.

[graeme4130]

Thou said:

That’ll be a career disaster for him then.

Dunno. Tag have put out some good bikes in the past and know how to win. They’re not short on funding, and Honda have made available all the factory parts to any superbike team in BSB running fireblades, so will be a competitive bike
Plus, he’s bringing a data engineer from WSBK

Fraser can certainly ride a bike, and is very good at setting it up too
His target is top 5’s by the first 3rd of the season, and I don’t think that’s unrealistic

[Thou]

graeme4130 said:

Thou said:

That’ll be a career disaster for him then.

Dunno. Tag have put out some good bikes in the past and know how to win. They’re not short on funding, and Honda have made available all the factory parts to any superbike team in BSB running fireblades, so will be a competitive bike
Plus, he’s bringing a data engineer from WSBK

Fraser can certainly ride a bike, and is very good at setting it up too
His target is top 5’s by the first 3rd of the season, and I don’t think that’s unrealistic

You reckon? You’re more in the know than I am, but in my memory all their bikes have been dogs. Brookes had to ride the wheels off of what appeared to be a pretty average R1 back in 2017 or whenever it was he came back from WSBK, which is the best season I can ever remember them having. Remember Dan Linfoot saying when he rode the R1 for them it chattered all over the place all season - an issue never resolved - and they’ve had some reasonable riders on the current Fireblade(including him imo, albeit that was the first year of development) who have gone absolutely nowhere on it. Hope I’m wrong as it’d be good to see another team at the front, but based on past performance, unless there’s a quantum leap for 2024 then top 5s at any point in the season looks to be a pipe dream. Do well to get in the top 15 I reckon.

[Thou]

On another note, any bookies taking bets yet? I fancy an outside punt on Kent to take the championship

As for riders left, very outside bet on Loris Baz to take the PBM seat? Although I don’t know if Jordan would even make the connection without Paul in the picture, if she even makes those decisions at all. And if Bridewell goes elsewhere, as another left field option, could Linfoot be put on the factory Honda? Has the ability in my opinion, and the experience to develop the bike.

Edited by Thou on Monday 20th November 11:08

[slopes]

Definitely no Brad Ray in BSB next year, he's re-signed for MotoXRacing for 2024

As for 2024, i reckon Glen Irwin for the title

[graeme4130]

Thou said:

You reckon? You’re more in the know than I am, but in my memory all their bikes have been dogs. Brookes had to ride the wheels off of what appeared to be a pretty average R1 back in 2017 or whenever it was he came back from WSBK, which is the best season I can ever remember them having. Remember Dan Linfoot saying when he rode the R1 for them it chattered all over the place all season - an issue never resolved - and they’ve had some reasonable riders on the current Fireblade(including him imo, albeit that was the first year of development) who have gone absolutely nowhere on it. Hope I’m wrong as it’d be good to see another team at the front, but based on past performance, unless there’s a quantum leap for 2024 then top 5s at any point in the season looks to be a pipe dream. Do well to get in the top 15 I reckon.

It’s entirely possible it won’t be a decent package or Fraser won’t get on with the bike, but I’m confident otherwise
I saw Fraser a couple of weeks ago and he was telling me how the team have a fresh head and approach this year, and he has a really good spanner team and data engineer coming from WSBK to work on the bike
If one thing Fraser is exceptionally good at, it’s being in tune with setting a bike up and he’s acutely aware of how the bike reacts to, say for example, needing a mm of shock length or 2% more engine brake in certain corners/lean angles (all of which you can do through motec)
I might be totally wrong, and he’s rolling around in 20th, but I genuinely think he’ll be doing well once the settling in period is done

[Tam_Mullen]

Thing is BSB is so tight, that even being a wee bit off your optimal setting will have you going round in 20th!

[LF5335]

Brad Persie released for, his contract with Lee Hardy Racing with immediate effect. Said to be mutual amd he’s going competing in a different British race series.

Skinner coming back to BSB and back on a Kawasaki?

[slopes]

LF5335 said:

Brad Persie released for, his contract with Lee Hardy Racing with immediate effect. Said to be mutual amd he’s going competing in a different British race series.

Skinner coming back to BSB and back on a Kawasaki?

Or Jackson

[slopes]

Tommy Bridewell confirmed on Instagram he is NOT riding for PBM in 2024, so Irwin will have a new team mate and has to be odds on for the title.
Tommy will be in BSB next year to defend his title.

[airsafari87]

slopes said:

Tommy Bridewell confirmed on Instagram he is NOT riding for PBM in 2024, so Irwin will have a new team mate and has to be odds on for the title.
Tommy will be in BSB next year to defend his title.

No surprise there at all. I said a little while back that I didn’t think Tommy would be a PBM rider this year.

Hasn’t Iddon already been confirmed on the Oxford bike? I wonder where else he could go and still be on a competitive bike that will give him a chance of retaining his title?

[Normodog]

Haslam had mentioned about potentially running two bikes, so maybe TB could go there, alternatively a third bike at Honda.

[slopes]

airsafari87 said:

slopes said:

Tommy Bridewell confirmed on Instagram he is NOT riding for PBM in 2024, so Irwin will have a new team mate and has to be odds on for the title.
Tommy will be in BSB next year to defend his title.

No surprise there at all. I said a little while back that I didn’t think Tommy would be a PBM rider this year.

Hasn’t Iddon already been confirmed on the Oxford bike? I wonder where else he could go and still be on a competitive bike that will give him a chance of retaining his title?

I think seeing the season ending race and Jordan and Frank Bird being in Irwins pit garage gave that away but yes you did.
Yes Iddon confirmed at Moto Rapido.

Be interesting to see Haslam and Bridewell in the same team IF that were to happen. Failing that, i wonder if the rumoured Shane Byrne team with R1's will materialise? Or as someone else mentioned, maybe a third Honda

[Zarco]

Would seem silly for Bridewell not to ride a Ducati given the success he's had last couple of years.