Motorcycle riding jeans advice
Discussion
jhoneyball said:
Quite so -- these new roadskins claim to be the only AAA rated single layer jeans
And my Hood dual layer jeans are too heavy (requiring braces) and too hot in the summer
the same as Rokker with their single layer jeans are AAA rated And my Hood dual layer jeans are too heavy (requiring braces) and too hot in the summer
Edited by jhoneyball on Monday 5th June 11:02
https://www.motolegends.com/rokker-revolution-aaa-...
the marketing war continues in motorcycle jeans, no doubt there will be a new video from the guy at ML soon.....
just realised im 9 months out of date video already here (was looking at jeans at the weekend)
https://youtu.be/HCtc9-hH8ng
Edited by bogie on Monday 5th June 11:16
airsafari87 said:
jhoneyball said:
Quite so -- these new roadskins claim to be the only AAA rated single layer jeans
My Oxford jeans are single layer and AAA rated too. https://www.dainese.com/gb/en/outlet/outlet-moto/p...
Hmmm I have rechecked the roadskins site:
https://roadskin.co.uk/collections/motorcycle-jean...
And they dont claim they are the only ones at AAA. So not sure where I got that from. Possibly from the vendor at peterborough show, not sure.
Clearly there are choices in this space, which is a good thing
https://roadskin.co.uk/collections/motorcycle-jean...
And they dont claim they are the only ones at AAA. So not sure where I got that from. Possibly from the vendor at peterborough show, not sure.
Clearly there are choices in this space, which is a good thing
KTMsm said:
The best protection is the stuff that you'll wear, because it's comfortable
I'm in this camp. As a kid it was cheap jeans and trainers. 20 years ago a leather jacket with no armor and proper boots was added.10 years ago it was still cheap jeans, boots and a jacket with armor.
So in my mind, adding AA jeans is a step up in protection and still comfortable that I want to wear them. The double layers are just too hot/heavy to be comfortable in the summer heat.
Everyone should read the facts about the protection cloths offer them (hopefully what you read is fact) and do their own "risk assessment" of how they like to ride their bikes and apply the safety which makes them feel ok.
Sad fact is bikes will always have an element of danger and if you go down the "safety" path to its conclusion, you'll sell your bike and pack it in.
Your money, your choice
Salted_Peanut said:
Lambo FirstBlood said:
Yes, I’ve worn Hideout leathers for some time and love them. In my experience:• Hideout’s standard leathers are cowhide with Level 2 D30 armour. Their older gear was heavy, but the modern stuff is wonderfully supple. However, I would choose perforated leather (a no-extra-cost option), not unperforated leather.
• However, Hideout offers perforated kangaroo leather with a CoolMax liner for warmer weather. It’s utterly brilliant, and I haven’t worn my Kevlar jeans since I got perforated kangaroo clobber.
• Perforated 'roo leather is fab when the sun’s out. And I can easily add a thin windproof on top or warm baselayer underneath in cooler weather. Price is the only downside, but they are built to last a lifetime.
• Although you can buy Hideout leathers in off-the-shelf sizes, their made-to-measure service is worth it. You can’t underestimate the increased comfort – it makes a massive difference – from made-to-measure. Also, it’s safer because the armour’s in precisely the right place.
Hideout leathers (alongside BKS Exmouth) are exceptionally protective – likely the best kit you can buy. They are considerably more protective than Kevlar jeans.
When I first got back on a bike 3 years ago, I was dead set against full leathers. I never liked the look or comfort and was amazed at how far protective gear that looked normal clothes had come and so I bought lots of gear of that type (more than I needed on reflection)
The bike bug has bitten me hard and I’ve just bought another much more grown up bike and am now looking at my gear and realizing that whilst I’ve got (some of) the best stuff for the type of riding I’ve been doing over the last couple of years, it may not suit everything I plan to do over the next couple.
I think I need to ride over to Hideout. In principle, I still don’t want a leather 1 piece but (from the photos, at least) the leather bike jeans with level 2 armour do look like they might be a good option for pressing on a bit more.
I’ve noted carefully what you’ve said about perforated, kangaroo and made to measure - all really helpful. Thanks
Edited by Lambo FirstBlood on Monday 5th June 17:44
pcn1 said:
KTMsm said:
The best protection is the stuff that you'll wear, because it's comfortable
I'm in this camp. As a kid it was cheap jeans and trainers. 20 years ago a leather jacket with no armor and proper boots was added.10 years ago it was still cheap jeans, boots and a jacket with armor.
So in my mind, adding AA jeans is a step up in protection and still comfortable that I want to wear them. The double layers are just too hot/heavy to be comfortable in the summer heat.
Everyone should read the facts about the protection cloths offer them (hopefully what you read is fact) and do their own "risk assessment" of how they like to ride their bikes and apply the safety which makes them feel ok.
Sad fact is bikes will always have an element of danger and if you go down the "safety" path to its conclusion, you'll sell your bike and pack it in.
Your money, your choice
Lambo FirstBlood said:
I think I need to ride over to Hideout.
Good plan 
I recommend you call or email Hideout to arrange when you’re popping in, as I heard they’re not always around if you drop by unannounced. Also, you can check out their textiles – some are waterproof, but others are ventilated for summer – and compare them to leather.
As Hideout can do anything you like, it’s worth thinking of any queries you have and mulling over what you want (e.g. vents, trousers under or over boots, pockets, reflectivity, etc.) in advance.
HybridTheory said:
Been looking for some leather trousers on Vinted and FB but I swear all bikers who sell on there are like 34x29 so short !
I've found that with most bike gear, even new stuff in shops. I'm hardly the smallest bloke getting around and could definitely do with dropping a few kegs but even 32in riding jeans are hard to find.Salted_Peanut said:
Lambo FirstBlood said:
I think I need to ride over to Hideout.
Good plan I recommend you call or email Hideout to arrange when you’re popping in, as I heard they’re not always around if you drop by unannounced. Also, you can check out their textiles – some are waterproof, but others are ventilated for summer – and compare them to leather.
As Hideout can do anything you like, it’s worth thinking of any queries you have and mulling over what you want (e.g. vents, trousers under or over boots, pockets, reflectivity, etc.) in advance.
I went for RST X Kevlars.
I ride in full leathers most of the time, these were just for those shorter trips to work, bike meets etc. They're really comfy, in fact I stay in them all day at work without really noticing they're much different to normal jeans (other than being a touch heavier).
At the time they were around £150 from sportsbikeshop but they seem to have gone up a touch now.
I ride in full leathers most of the time, these were just for those shorter trips to work, bike meets etc. They're really comfy, in fact I stay in them all day at work without really noticing they're much different to normal jeans (other than being a touch heavier).
At the time they were around £150 from sportsbikeshop but they seem to have gone up a touch now.
What knee armour to people use? It's seems a little tricky to get jeans/pads that are going to stay in place but not feel/look odd when off the bike. Better to get some that go over the leg independently maybe.
Tonberry said:
I've got a pair of Bull IT Covert Slim jeans and I find them warm in winter and pretty cool in summer.
I ordered a pair of Bull-it SP120 Lite jeans which appeared to be very similar to the Coverts. The tags make a big deal about triple-stitching being the right level, only for me to find that the leg seams are only single stitched, leaving me without much confidence. Are the Converts the same?My wife has the Limb Tubes too, well made and she reckons they're comfortable. I have a pair of Knoxx Crossguards that are bulkier than the limb tubes, which isn't a problem under my loose fitting Draggin' zipoffs, but attach with velcro straps so I can take them off without having to take my boots off.
TheInternet said:
What knee armour to people use? It's seems a little tricky to get jeans/pads that are going to stay in place but not feel/look odd when off the bike. Better to get some that go over the leg independently maybe.
The Covert are triple stitched through the thigh and seat of the jean. The seam down the leg is visibly double stitched but appears to have a hidden third stitch underneath.Tonberry said:
I've got a pair of Bull IT Covert Slim jeans and I find them warm in winter and pretty cool in summer.
I ordered a pair of Bull-it SP120 Lite jeans which appeared to be very similar to the Coverts. The tags make a big deal about triple-stitching being the right level, only for me to find that the leg seams are only single stitched, leaving me without much confidence. Are the Converts the same?They have been burst tested by MotoCAP and achieve a good score.
As a side note, more info here for anyone interested:
Classification AAA: The highest level, with the machine spinning at 707.4rpm (the velocity of the sample holder being equivalent to 120km/h) in Zone 1, at 442.1rpm (equivalent to about 75km/h) in Zone 2 and at 265.3rpm (equivalent to around 45km/h) in Zone 3.
Classification AA: More suited to touring gear, this specifies Zone 1 at 412.6rpm, 265.3rpm in Zone 2 and 147.4rpm (the equivalent of around 25kmh) in Zone 3.
Tonberry said:
As a side note, more info here for anyone interested:
Classification AAA: The highest level, with the machine spinning at 707.4rpm (the velocity of the sample holder being equivalent to 120km/h) in Zone 1, at 442.1rpm (equivalent to about 75km/h) in Zone 2 and at 265.3rpm (equivalent to around 45km/h) in Zone 3.
Classification AA: More suited to touring gear, this specifies Zone 1 at 412.6rpm, 265.3rpm in Zone 2 and 147.4rpm (the equivalent of around 25kmh) in Zone 3.
Also, the A and AA ratings don’t consider it likely you could land on your derrière (i.e. the backside isn’t Zone 1 for abrasion resistance). Only the AAA rating tests proper protection for your posterior (i.e. Zone 1 tests include your bootie).Classification AAA: The highest level, with the machine spinning at 707.4rpm (the velocity of the sample holder being equivalent to 120km/h) in Zone 1, at 442.1rpm (equivalent to about 75km/h) in Zone 2 and at 265.3rpm (equivalent to around 45km/h) in Zone 3.
Classification AA: More suited to touring gear, this specifies Zone 1 at 412.6rpm, 265.3rpm in Zone 2 and 147.4rpm (the equivalent of around 25kmh) in Zone 3.
Incidentally, the initial AA standard was lowered because common motorcycle clothing materials couldn’t pass it. So, they made the test easier
I prefer MotoCAP testing (designed by independent experts) over the AA/AAA ratings (chiefly created by the manufacturers).
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