What bike thread - sort of

[MoelyCrio]

MT09 if you're considering a Striple? Or even the MT07? Both have got lovely torquey engines. Handling of the the 09 isn't as good as the Striple though.

[HertsBiker]

The V7 Stone was lovely, bit cramped, and not as reliable as I hoped it would be. Had 2 oil leaks inside 3000 miles and made a scary gearbox squeal like oil starvation. Looked and sounded superb though.

[LoonR1]

skahigh said:

You say that, however, I'm convinced the Street Triple is by far and away the best bike I've ridden to improve my riding because it is so light, easy handling and most importantly, confidence inspiring (for me at least).

I'm not a kid and I can easily resist the temptation to twist the throttle and get myself in to trouble. I've been driving fast cars for years and generally drive like a boring old fart because I'm just not a speed freak.

I know you think I've got it in for you, but I haven't, despite what I'm about to write.

I'm probably a lot older than you and can not resist the desire to twist the throttle. My cars have been far faster than anything you've got on your list and that has made no difference at all to my desire to ride bikes as fast as I can.

Oh and do we really need another "I'm buying a Triumph, because I'm a fanboi" thread?

[spareparts]

Mastodon2 said:

Buy the one you like the most.

This.

At the beginning, gaining confidence is what it's all about. Easier to gain confidence on a bike you love the 'idea' and look of and do not find intimidating.

[skahigh]

LoonR1 said:

skahigh said:

You say that, however, I'm convinced the Street Triple is by far and away the best bike I've ridden to improve my riding because it is so light, easy handling and most importantly, confidence inspiring (for me at least).

I'm not a kid and I can easily resist the temptation to twist the throttle and get myself in to trouble. I've been driving fast cars for years and generally drive like a boring old fart because I'm just not a speed freak.

I know you think I've got it in for you, but I haven't, despite what I'm about to write.

I'm probably a lot older than you and can not resist the desire to twist the throttle. My cars have been far faster than anything you've got on your list and that has made no difference at all to my desire to ride bikes as fast as I can.

Oh and do we really need another "I'm buying a Triumph, because I'm a fanboi" thread?

Does it really sound like a Triumph fanboi thread? I was giving my opinions on the bikes I rode yesterday, that's all.

That you can't resist the temptation to twist the throttle is totally irrelevant, we obviously have very different personalities.

[skahigh]

MoelyCrio said:

MT09 if you're considering a Striple? Or even the MT07? Both have got lovely torquey engines. Handling of the the 09 isn't as good as the Striple though.

Good point, I was already considering the MT-07 but thought it was a bit uncomfortable to sit on. However, I have not ridden one and suspect it might be more comfortable feet up than just sitting on it in a showroom.

[Mastodon2]

skahigh said:

Does it really sound like a Triumph fanboi thread? I was giving my opinions on the bikes I rode yesterday, that's all.

That you can't resist the temptation to twist the throttle is totally irrelevant, we obviously have very different personalities.

He's probably right though, you will find yourself going faster on it than you do in your cars. I know a few bikers, I don't know any who don't use their bike's available performance when appropriate. This noble idea of not exceeding the speed limit will last about as long as it takes for you to not be afraid to use all of the throttle and hold a gear to the redline.

[LoonR1]

skahigh said:

Does it really sound like a Triumph fanboi thread? I was giving my opinions on the bikes I rode yesterday, that's all.

That you can't resist the temptation to twist the throttle is totally irrelevant, we obviously have very different personalities.

Then you're buying completely the wrong bike, or will spend all your time either screaming the nuts of it in 1st gear.

[LoonR1]

skahigh said:

Does it really sound like a Triumph fanboi thread? I was giving my opinions on the bikes I rode yesterday, that's all.

That you can't resist the temptation to twist the throttle is totally irrelevant, we obviously have very different personalities.

Then you're buying completely the wrong bike, or will spend all your time either screaming the nuts of it in 1st gear.

[skahigh]

LoonR1 said:

skahigh said:

Does it really sound like a Triumph fanboi thread? I was giving my opinions on the bikes I rode yesterday, that's all.

That you can't resist the temptation to twist the throttle is totally irrelevant, we obviously have very different personalities.

Then you're buying completely the wrong bike, or will spend all your time either screaming the nuts of it in 1st gear.

Hence the reason why I liked the Street Triple, being torquey at low revs it allows you to have fun more easily at slower speeds or at least, this was my opinion after riding the bikes I mentioned.

Incidentally, I'm not buying the wrong bike as you say because at the moment I've not bought or decided upon any bike. All I have actually determined is that I didn't enjoy the experience of riding the CBR or XJ6.

[LoonR1]

skahigh said:

Hence the reason why I liked the Street Triple, being torquey at low revs it allows you to have fun more easily at slower speeds or at least, this was my opinion after riding the bikes I mentioned.

Incidentally, I'm not buying the wrong bike as you say because at the moment I've not bought or decided upon any bike. All I have actually determined is that I didn't enjoy the experience of riding the CBR or XJ6.

You are, because any 600cc bike will be tricky to ride the way you want to. The XJ6 is most suited to it, followed by the CBR600 as both of these are lower powered and less stressed, so likely to be happy to trundle along at low revs. You've discounted both of these though.

[Deranged Granny]

LoonR1 said:

You are, because any 600cc bike will be tricky to ride the way you want to. The XJ6 is most suited to it, followed by the CBR600 as both of these are lower powered and less stressed, so likely to be happy to trundle along at low revs. You've discounted both of these though.

You'd argue with a floret of broccoli, wouldn't you?

[Wedg1e]

I rode a mate's STriple for 120 miles down a motorway in the rain and couldn't find fault with the engine, brakes, riding position or stability. I thought the mirrors could have shown a bit less of me and more of the road behind and being bar-mounted were a bit close once you got a bit of forward lean on (had to move head a good way to peer in them) - that would tend to apply to most bikes of similar styling though.
Throttle response was good and torque seemed almost identical to the bike I usually ride that has twice the cylinder capacity but the STriple's acceleration was obviously greater due to it being rather lighter
Lack of engine vibration was nice. The bike I rode had an Airhawk seat plopped on so I can't comment on the standard seat's comfort; the STriple had the lowest fuel range of the bikes on our trip and that was what determined our range as a group - it was a good effort for the owner who was trying to maintain 90-100mph from one fill to the next
For twisty Sunday mornings (or even throwing round the Alps once you get there!) I thought it'd be a great tool; for lots of long-range work I'd be looking for at least a half-fairing and a bigger tank, but that's because I'm an old fart who doesn't thrash about much

[LoonR1]

Deranged Granny said:

You'd argue with a floret of broccoli, wouldn't you?

No. Take a look at some of the other threads I've posted on today. No arguing as far as I can see. This thread is like many others I've seen over the years, although a few years back it was Ducati, not Triumph that was the bike. Many people post asking for advice, but really know what they're going to buy anyway and are really just looking for either confirmation, or compliments.

A new rider saying some bikes are low powered is a it disingenuous to say the least. I've been riding for 11 years and do OK, but will rarely claim that a bike has too little power as I'd struggle to extract all of it's performance.

The idea that you buy a modern bike as a hobby and then intend to ride it everywhere at legal speeds is plain daft.

[skahigh]

LoonR1 said:

Deranged Granny said:

You'd argue with a floret of broccoli, wouldn't you?

No. Take a look at some of the other threads I've posted on today. No arguing as far as I can see. This thread is like many others I've seen over the years, although a few years back it was Ducati, not Triumph that was the bike. Many people post asking for advice, but really know what they're going to buy anyway and are really just looking for either confirmation, or compliments.

A new rider saying some bikes are low powered is a it disingenuous to say the least. I've been riding for 11 years and do OK, but will rarely claim that a bike has too little power as I'd struggle to extract all of it's performance.

The idea that you buy a modern bike as a hobby and then intend to ride it everywhere at legal speeds is plain daft.

Who said any of the bikes in my OP were under-powered?

[LoonR1]

skahigh said:

Who said any of the bikes in my OP were under-powered?

Thruxton was described as "slow" the other two as "buzzy" and the CBR as "needing it's neck wrung".

All of that suggests that they are underpowered, maybe not explicitly, but the message is clear.

skahigh said:

Hello all,

So today I went and test rode 4 bikes that I have been mulling over for my first bike....

Triumph Street Triple R - Wow, amazing performance, so light and agile, really really confidence inspiring, the best bike to ride that I tried today by miles, loved the low end torque

Triumph Thruxton - Probably couldn't be much more different to the Street Triple, felt a lot less stable (understandably) and really slow in comparison however, I LOVE the look and still really enjoyed the ride, the best overall ownership proposition for me I think

Honda CBR600F (2011) - Fantastic looking bike, I really wanted to like this but, I didn't enjoy the ride at all, far far too buzzy for me and where the street triple was confidence inspiring this made me nervous as it felt like it needed to have its neck wrung everywhere

Yamaha XJ6 Diversion F - Nice looking bike, riding position a bit too upright (probably the most comfortable for long journeys of the 4), still quite buzzy but not as bad as the CBR, looked lovely but just didn't do anything to excite me, this wasn't helped by a badly adjusted gear selector which was above the height of the foot peg and seemed to have a very long throw

At this point it's between the Street Triple and the Thruxton for completely different reasons, my question is, is there anything else I should be considering? Anything light, agile and torquey like the Street Triple? None of the Thruxton alternatives (Guzzi V7, Enfield Continental, Kwaka W800) really push my buttons.

Anyone have any opinions of these bikes that they would care to share? Both riding experiences and ownership I'd be interested to hear about.

[mitzy]

Deranged Granny said:

LoonR1 said:

You are, because any 600cc bike will be tricky to ride the way you want to. The XJ6 is most suited to it, followed by the CBR600 as both of these are lower powered and less stressed, so likely to be happy to trundle along at low revs. You've discounted both of these though.

You'd argue with a floret of broccoli, wouldn't you?

[skahigh]

LoonR1 said:

skahigh said:

Who said any of the bikes in my OP were under-powered?

Thruxton was described as "slow" the other two as "buzzy" and the CBR as "needing it's neck wrung".

All of that suggests that they are underpowered, maybe not explicitly, but the message is clear.

skahigh said:

Hello all,

So today I went and test rode 4 bikes that I have been mulling over for my first bike....

Triumph Street Triple R - Wow, amazing performance, so light and agile, really really confidence inspiring, the best bike to ride that I tried today by miles, loved the low end torque

Triumph Thruxton - Probably couldn't be much more different to the Street Triple, felt a lot less stable (understandably) and really slow in comparison however, I LOVE the look and still really enjoyed the ride, the best overall ownership proposition for me I think

Honda CBR600F (2011) - Fantastic looking bike, I really wanted to like this but, I didn't enjoy the ride at all, far far too buzzy for me and where the street triple was confidence inspiring this made me nervous as it felt like it needed to have its neck wrung everywhere

Yamaha XJ6 Diversion F - Nice looking bike, riding position a bit too upright (probably the most comfortable for long journeys of the 4), still quite buzzy but not as bad as the CBR, looked lovely but just didn't do anything to excite me, this wasn't helped by a badly adjusted gear selector which was above the height of the foot peg and seemed to have a very long throw

At this point it's between the Street Triple and the Thruxton for completely different reasons, my question is, is there anything else I should be considering? Anything light, agile and torquey like the Street Triple? None of the Thruxton alternatives (Guzzi V7, Enfield Continental, Kwaka W800) really push my buttons.

Anyone have any opinions of these bikes that they would care to share? Both riding experiences and ownership I'd be interested to hear about.

Actually, the Thruxton was described as "slow in comparison", that is a different thing from simply describing it as slow as I didn't say and don't believe that to be the case.

Apparently the message was not clear because once again you have incorrectly inferred a meaning from my post that didn't exist.

[Mastodon2]

You won't be sticking the speed limits anyway, so discount that idea.

[MC Bodge]

I suspect that the Thruxton might actually suit your needs. The older ones were more 'focused', I once read somewhere.