Bikers v motorists and vv
Discussion
Rosanne said:
Like many motorists I have used two wheeled transport. This has ranged from a Carlton racing bike up to a Douglas Dragonfly ( my grandfathers ! ). So I can see both points of view. However, I am growing increasingly concerned at the hostility between both groups that is rapidly becoming a part of everyday motoring. I've seen bikers smash driver's door mirrors and drivers and bikers get into roadside punch ups.
Many of the bikers seem to be learner drivers, presumably with little or no experience of driving a car. I'm sure that many car drivers have no two wheel experience either. I do wish, though, that bikers might recognise that high speed weaving between moving or stationary traffic leaves them virtually invisible to car drivers and therefore very vulnerable.
If you ride like a tit, then you should expect the average motorist to not see you. Play silly games, win silly prizes. If I was to ride like that, I'd not hold it against a motorist if he didn't see me.Many of the bikers seem to be learner drivers, presumably with little or no experience of driving a car. I'm sure that many car drivers have no two wheel experience either. I do wish, though, that bikers might recognise that high speed weaving between moving or stationary traffic leaves them virtually invisible to car drivers and therefore very vulnerable.
The flip side of this is when riding safely, normally and within the speed limit you get the idiots waiting to pull out at junctions who just don't see you, the ones that don't look properly, the ones that are too interested in their phones/snacks/kids in the back, the ones that block your legal filtering et etc. Do any mileage on a bike and you'll see at least one of these daily. It's no surprise some bikers have got the ike with car drivers.
moanthebairns said:
SO your telling us you never slowed down, increased the gap in front, pulled to the inside lane, allowed the biker who was violating the high way code to pass then continued on your journeys. WTF
Can't believe you bit and replied!Brown or red sause on a bacon and egg sandwich?
I hate cyclists expect when I am cycling 30 miles to work and back and in pedal powered.
I hate drivers unless I am in my car hooning along with all care and attention.
I hate van drivers unless I am of course in my van... don't get my started on trailers... unless I am towing my project car or something.
I REALLY f
king hate bikers... unless I'm on my motorised bicycle on one wheel feeling free and sense of joy you can't get in a car really.
Its all relative.
I hate drivers unless I am in my car hooning along with all care and attention.
I hate van drivers unless I am of course in my van... don't get my started on trailers... unless I am towing my project car or something.
I REALLY f
king hate bikers... unless I'm on my motorised bicycle on one wheel feeling free and sense of joy you can't get in a car really.Its all relative.
moanthebairns said:
Biker's Nemesis said:
I've heard that it's safe to eat raw eggs again so long as they bac the red band on them.
I may have an omelette for tea tonight.
Surely cooking an omelette means the egg isn't raw....I may have an omelette for tea tonight.
ashleyman said:
I know there's equal amounts of tts on the road driving cars vs bikes.
But if someone could please tell bikers to back the fk off that would be great. They sit WAY too close to the rear of cars OR they sit in the blind spot on the centre white line.
I thought you were supposed to be visible/heard? Yet why put yourself in the most dangerous position or leave no stopping gap? I had a guy on a sports bike behind me the other night and the car in front of me braked, I braked. He hadn't left a gap and went over to avoid hitting my car.
I do as much as I can to aid bikers filtering or making progress through traffic when I'm in the car but why they make it hard for themselves I will never understand.
Always assume there is someone in your blind spot! Unless you have checked.ts on the road driving cars vs bikes. But if someone could please tell bikers to back the f
k off that would be great. They sit WAY too close to the rear of cars OR they sit in the blind spot on the centre white line. I thought you were supposed to be visible/heard? Yet why put yourself in the most dangerous position or leave no stopping gap? I had a guy on a sports bike behind me the other night and the car in front of me braked, I braked. He hadn't left a gap and went over to avoid hitting my car.
I do as much as I can to aid bikers filtering or making progress through traffic when I'm in the car but why they make it hard for themselves I will never understand.
ashleyman said:
Gap in front of me.
Car in front slowed down
I slowed down.
Biker didn't so reacted late.
I saw him coming behind me and not reacting aiming for centre of my rear bumper
I pulled right over centre line onto other side of road so he didn't hit me
Biker went over bars as he pulled brakes hard and hit floor about 30cm from back of my car
If I hadn't pulled right he would have landed ON/IN my car.
I was looking at the car in front of me and reacting, biker wasn't and reacted late therefore going over handlebars.
Utter pish and drivel.Car in front slowed down
I slowed down.
Biker didn't so reacted late.
I saw him coming behind me and not reacting aiming for centre of my rear bumper
I pulled right over centre line onto other side of road so he didn't hit me
Biker went over bars as he pulled brakes hard and hit floor about 30cm from back of my car
If I hadn't pulled right he would have landed ON/IN my car.
I was looking at the car in front of me and reacting, biker wasn't and reacted late therefore going over handlebars.
Meanwhile, I prefer pies to eggs.
Little known best way to boil an egg. Leave an inch of water above them, heat to a viscous boil from cold water. Then take it off the heat entirely and leave them sitting in the pan for 7 minutes, 8 if they're big eggs or you keep them in the fridge.
Most useful thing you'll read here.
Most useful thing you'll read here.
Prof Prolapse said:
Little known best way to boil an egg. Leave an inch of water above them, heat to a viscous boil from cold water. Then take it off the heat entirely and leave them sitting in the pan for 7 minutes, 8 if they're big eggs or you keep them in the fridge.
Most useful thing you'll read here.
pish, boil the water to boiling point, put the egg in for 5 minutes, be done with it. Most useful thing you'll read here.
Nah, firstly you'd need to be careful dropping eggs into boiling water that they don't split, also by using the water as it cools down (rather than just boiling the st out of it), the yoke is allowed to cook at a lower temperature than the white, so you get that nice soft but fully cooked yoke without rubbery egg whites or worse still chalky yoke.
Try it. I swear to god it will change your life... They egg boiling part of it anyway.
t out of it), the yoke is allowed to cook at a lower temperature than the white, so you get that nice soft but fully cooked yoke without rubbery egg whites or worse still chalky yoke.Try it. I swear to god it will change your life... They egg boiling part of it anyway.
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