WSBK 2024

[airsafari87]

I haven’t been following rider moves too closely, but has Toprak’s teammate at BMW been confirmed yet?

[Zarco]

airsafari87 said:

I haven’t been following rider moves too closely, but has Toprak’s teammate at BMW been confirmed yet?

I think both Redding and VdM have a contract with BMW for next year. VdM most likely to keep the factory ride, and Redding will be on a satellite team.

[airsafari87]

Zarco said:

I think both Redding and VdM have a contract with BMW for next year. VdM most likely to keep the factory ride, and Redding will be on a satellite team.

I’m wondering if Redding will stay with the factory team.

He was supposed to make an announcement after Donington was it? But nothing came.

In an interview yesterday he hinted that an announcement was imminent but just couldn’t say anything right now.

In his interview he was nothing but positive about the BMW and had been looking inwardly at himself.

I’m just wondering (speculating) that BMW have said that there is a ride there for him next year as long as they see a behaviour and attitude change from him?

Edited by airsafari87 on Sunday 10th September 09:44

[slopes]

airsafari87 said:

Zarco said:

I think both Redding and VdM have a contract with BMW for next year. VdM most likely to keep the factory ride, and Redding will be on a satellite team.

I’m wondering if Redding will stay with the factory team.

He was supposed to make an announcement after Donington was it? But nothing came.

In an interview yesterday he hinted that an announcement was imminent but just couldn’t say anything right now.

In his interview he was nothing but positive about the BMW and had been liking inwardly at himself.

I’m just wondering (speculating) that BMW have said that their is a ride there for him next year as long as they see a behaviour and attitude change from him?

I think it's a fair bet he will be on a satelite bike next year if he stays with BMW, his angry outburts at the Philip Island round combined with being seen on a live broadcast punching the tank and his subsequent outburst will have done him no good at all.

He could of course end up at Kawasaki to replace Rea IF BMW let him out of his contract

[airsafari87]

You can probably scrap my previous post now.

[slopes]

airsafari87 said:

You can probably scrap my previous post now.

I’ve been out all day so either a) he’s announced his plans or b) had a bad day and thrown his toys out the pram

[Waynester]

Redding had a mare of a weekend

[Tam_Mullen]

Not sure if I see much difference between the Race 1 incidents of Redding/Gerloff and Bautista/MRR in the sprint.

Both a bit over ambitious, but you could argue the door was *slightly* open for Scott, Alvaro just got it all wrong and rammed his team mate.

[stang65]

Tam_Mullen said:

Not sure if I see much difference between the Race 1 incidents of Redding/Gerloff and Bautista/MRR in the sprint.

Both a bit over ambitious, but you could argue the door was *slightly* open for Scott, Alvaro just got it all wrong and rammed his team mate.

I'd agree that at least Redding was going for a gap. Apparently Yamaha protested the differences in treatment and the officials threw it out. I think this is the clearest indication yet that they want Ducati to win again. I just can't get over the lack of equality in the "performance balancing" that's gone on for the last couple of years, which is now reaching supersport too. I don't care if they all work to mechanical rules and whoever builds the best bike wins but once you say you're going to balance then you should. I guess Bautista at least did the officials the favour of taking out a fast Ducati, so the line of "only Bautista is winning" still holds.

Reading that back to myself I look like one of the tin foil hat brigade, but I just can't see how they can say there's any fairness in the balancing. If that's the best they can do it's time to go back to mechanical rules only. I don't really see how long Yamaha and Kawasaki can keep going as it doesn't seem like there's any value in them building new sportsbikes as a basis for WSB, so the organisers should do what they can while there's interest. It's hard to see a future for WSB with just Ducati and BMW making viable sportsbikes......

Sorry that looks all doom and gloom and I only logged on to post agreement that once again the "officials" were blinkered, biased and hap hazard giving out penalties!

[rodericb]

Winning the WSBK championship is not the sole arbiter of a manufacturer building a sportsbike. Plenty of them have done it in the past and some still do it today. It costs a lot of money to run a team at that level and Ducati have always thrown a lot of money at it, as a percentage of their company turnover.

[slopes]

In a move that is possibly going to leave some dismayed faces at Kawasaki, especially after recent events, Adrian Huertas has signed to replace the WSBK bound Nicolo Bulega in WSSP on the Ducati for 2024.

[slopes]

Rumour is Bassani to Kawasaki to replace Rea but where everyone else goes is down to Marquez.
If he leaves Honda, then Lecuona will take his ride and Rinaldi will go to Honda. If he stays, then Rinaldi will take Bassani's old ride with his satellite Ducati team and Lecuona will stay where he is

Edited by slopes on Thursday 14th September 12:15

[joema]

I feel for VdM but surely a choice of Scott or him would fall in favour of Scott.

Seems Scott is out though judging by the body language in the pit box last weekend

[slopes]

joema said:

I feel for VdM but surely a choice of Scott or him would fall in favour of Scott.

Seems Scott is out though judging by the body language in the pit box last weekend

Redding has done himself zero favours this year
Phillip Island - he was seen smashing the tank in after he had a technical, then was picked up on live tv venting his frustration about the quality of the bike.
Rest of the season - he hasn't even been the best of the BMW riders this year, regularly outperformed by both Baz and Gerloff.

He is quick to point the finger of blame everywhere but himself and that will have been noticed in the boardroom of BMW. One thing employers like is that you don't do your dirty laundry in public, especially in the world of motorsport. Be angry by all means but be angry in private. Bonus points if anyone knows where i got that little quote from.

[topsprayer]

slopes said:

joema said:

I feel for VdM but surely a choice of Scott or him would fall in favour of Scott.

Seems Scott is out though judging by the body language in the pit box last weekend

Redding has done himself zero favours this year
Phillip Island - he was seen smashing the tank in after he had a technical, then was picked up on live tv venting his frustration about the quality of the bike.
Rest of the season - he hasn't even been the best of the BMW riders this year, regularly outperformed by both Baz and Gerloff.

He is quick to point the finger of blame everywhere but himself and that will have been noticed in the boardroom of BMW. One thing employers like is that you don't do your dirty laundry in public, especially in the world of motorsport. Be angry by all means but be angry in private. Bonus points if anyone knows where i got that little quote from.

Apart from Redding clearly has been the best BMW rider this year since he's the highest BMW rider overall and Gerloff has only had the better of him on a few races.

[Zarco]

topsprayer said:

slopes said:

joema said:

I feel for VdM but surely a choice of Scott or him would fall in favour of Scott.

Seems Scott is out though judging by the body language in the pit box last weekend

Redding has done himself zero favours this year
Phillip Island - he was seen smashing the tank in after he had a technical, then was picked up on live tv venting his frustration about the quality of the bike.
Rest of the season - he hasn't even been the best of the BMW riders this year, regularly outperformed by both Baz and Gerloff.

He is quick to point the finger of blame everywhere but himself and that will have been noticed in the boardroom of BMW. One thing employers like is that you don't do your dirty laundry in public, especially in the world of motorsport. Be angry by all means but be angry in private. Bonus points if anyone knows where i got that little quote from.

Apart from Redding clearly has been the best BMW rider this year since he's the highest BMW rider overall and Gerloff has only had the better of him on a few races.

I think he's been lucky that VDM has been injured in that respect. It's not been a good season for Redding.

[Drawweight]

John Mcphee dropped from the Vince64 team.

Results haven’t been going his way apart from the podium in the wet in the first race and has been running mid table since then.

Hopefully he’ll get a ride elsewhere.

[rodericb]

So, race 1 at Aragon and Bautista stacks it twice and Rinaldi takes the win! Great ride by Petrucci from twenty-fourth on the grid to fifth at the end of the race. He stacked it early in superpole and didn't record a time.

[Zarco]

rodericb said:

So, race 1 at Aragon and Bautista stacks it twice and Rinaldi takes the win! Great ride by Petrucci from twenty-fourth on the grid to fifth at the end of the race. He stacked it early in superpole and didn't record a time.

Is this a premonition?

[airsafari87]

Zarco said:

Is this a premonition?

No it’s what happened in yesterdays race.