Full beam bikers ?
Discussion
Damiencbr said:
Y4MER said:
At least you spotted him, think I will put my full beam, its a good idea
Totally with you, i would rather a driver was p!ssed off with me because of full beam, at least the muppet has seen me!
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Sadly, the only drivers that are likely to see you on full beam are the ones who were looking for you in the first place. Dazzling attentive drivers does not seem like the way forward
Ulimately, we all need each others' cooperation. Even though I ride a bike, I can't say I'd put someone who's trying to burn my retinas at the top of my christmas card list...
Have to admit that is the case, one advantage of not using full beams is I can see the other guy in the mirror and usually he can notice that I have seen him, allows me to make space for him to safely get by even if i dont want to stop overtaking a line of trucks to let a single biker thru.
Usually tend to drive on the warning line / white marker that vibrates, this is usually ample space.
On full beams, I get dazzled and on the bit that prompted this post had images of the headlight in my vison for a few minutes afterwards
Dont see the need for anti bike forum, but seems that at least some bikers get the idea that car drivers not all out to get them
Usually tend to drive on the warning line / white marker that vibrates, this is usually ample space.
On full beams, I get dazzled and on the bit that prompted this post had images of the headlight in my vison for a few minutes afterwards
Dont see the need for anti bike forum, but seems that at least some bikers get the idea that car drivers not all out to get them
Scraggles said:
but seems that at least some bikers get the idea that car drivers not all out to get them
Gosh yes, such a revelation!
I'm always astounded that at least some car drivers grasp the fact bikers are not all vacuous plebs with no road sense.
Astonishing really.
Edited by parakitamol on Sunday 16th July 12:14
I cant believe the attitude being shown by some in this thread, being seen is a good thing but surely not at the expense of dazzling other road users. Apart from being questionable on the safety aspect its just plain inconsiderate. Dipped beams is enough and if you think another road user has not seen you give a quick peep on the horn, that is what it’s their for. I accept that if you can’t be seen you can’t be safe but there is no need to be an arsehole about it.
sybaseian said:
What annoys me is ignorant/deliberate blocking by tinbox tossers. Do it to me and they will come off the worst. Why do you think that Bikers carry big security chains......
Ironic isn't it that your attitude is just the same as that of the car drivers you profess to hate. Can you spell 'hypocrisy'?!? Can you even comprehend that YOU might be the reason this thread got posted???
donteatpeople said:
I cant believe the attitude being shown by some in this thread, being seen is a good thing but surely not at the expense of dazzling other road users. Apart from being questionable on the safety aspect its just plain inconsiderate. Dipped beams is enough and if you think another road user has not seen you give a quick peep on the horn, that is what it’s their for. I accept that if you can’t be seen you can’t be safe but there is no need to be an arsehole about it.
Amen. Bikers should show consideration to other road users in the same way that car drivers should, where sensible, move out of the way for filtering bikers.
What I would add is that over the last few years the average courtesy and perceived ability of bikers on the road HAS fallen...far more now don't acknowledge courteous car-driving, far more 'push' their way through half-gaps that are chancing both their safety and damage to cars, and far more (saw two yesterday) are willing to cross double-whites in very questionable places. My guess is it's largely 'born-again' bikers who drive repmobiles the rest of the time and don't yet realise you need a different attitude than "tailgate everywhere, and the mirror is for checking your shades are straight".
Scraggles said:
Dont see the need for anti bike forum, but seems that at least some bikers get the idea that car drivers not all out to get them
I still can't see the point of your original thread - I'm guessing it's purely to wind up some bikers...
Pity there's no historical re-enactment forum for me to go and whinge about swords in.
Grrrr.
Marki said:
Carrera2 said:
You're in the wrong section my travelling salesman friend.
This is FOR bikers not for people who hate them.
Start a thread in GG if you like - there's some people there who'd like you.
This is FOR bikers not for people who hate them.
Start a thread in GG if you like - there's some people there who'd like you.
He has a point and is asking the question of the people who do itBy referring to them as tw@ts? I don't think so mate.
Carrera2 said:
Marki said:
Carrera2 said:
You're in the wrong section my travelling salesman friend.
This is FOR bikers not for people who hate them.
Start a thread in GG if you like - there's some people there who'd like you.
This is FOR bikers not for people who hate them.
Start a thread in GG if you like - there's some people there who'd like you.
He has a point and is asking the question of the people who do itBy referring to them as tw@ts? I don't think so mate.
If he believes they're using main beam, then he has a point. Main beam is distracting and dazzling to other road users, and should only be used when no-one else will be affected.
troll said:
biker muppets
Not a bad intro for the first thread he's ever started.
troll said:
daft tw@ts
Yeah, bunch of nobbers the lot of them.
troll said:
then they get all upset
Yeah, unlike car drivers, we are a bit fragile emotionally
troll said:
Lastly,
Ooooh there's more do tell us...
troll said:
moped speeds does wind me up...
Never mind, pop in and tell us about it anytime.
chilli said:
to go away, thinking all bikers are tossers
WGAF what a troll or troll friends think? does he really have that power?
"Spoke to some bikers on an internet forum and they said X" "Oh really then we will hate them too" hmmm not so sure life works like that.
If he'd said "I'm curious why some ride with full beam, can you explain?"
I would have been inclined to engage with this debate - having heard some really interesting stuff about this regarding visual perception - can't be arsed to tell him about it though...
likesbikes said:
Have to say I agree with the original poster, it is irritating and (usually) unnecessary to ride with dipped beam.
then you need to get with the times. Most modern bikes are sold _without_ an off switch for the lights (EU regs innit)....So we no longer have the choice to switch them off (not that I would, as even with lights on a day doesn't go by without some numpty tin-topper pulling out without looking)
As for the anti-biker forum, what a really constructive idea, NOT. Get a life.
Carrera2 said:
havoc said:
If he believes they're using main beam, then he has a point. Main beam is distracting and dazzling to other road users, and should only be used when no-one else will be affected.
Text book.
Yep. You ever wonder why it's in the text book??? Did you ever read said book (or the highway code?) and bother to think about what's in it?
Why is it that whenever someone posts on PH attacking the way a BMW drove, or a rep drove (for example), you DON'T get BMW drivers or reps defending that particular individual. Yet when someone criticises the way a biker behaved, quite a number (not all, I hasten to add) of bikers wade in with both feet firmly in their mouths??? Either some of the bikers here are the most insecure people on the forum, or they feel that the whole biking fraternity are somehow better than other road users, and beyond reproach.
Either way, it's frankly pathetic.
havoc said:
Carrera2 said:
havoc said:
If he believes they're using main beam, then he has a point. Main beam is distracting and dazzling to other road users, and should only be used when no-one else will be affected.
Text book.
Yep. You ever wonder why it's in the text book??? Did you ever read said book (or the highway code?) and bother to think about what's in it?
Why is it that whenever someone posts on PH attacking the way a BMW drove, or a rep drove (for example), you DON'T get BMW drivers or reps defending that particular individual. Yet when someone criticises the way a biker behaved, quite a number (not all, I hasten to add) of bikers wade in with both feet firmly in their mouths??? Either some of the bikers here are the most insecure people on the forum, or they feel that the whole biking fraternity are somehow better than other road users, and beyond reproach.
Either way, it's frankly pathetic.
What's really pathetic is people like you (who don't even have bikes) who come in here purely to wind people up. Why are you here?
Carrera2 said:
havoc said:
Carrera2 said:
havoc said:
If he believes they're using main beam, then he has a point. Main beam is distracting and dazzling to other road users, and should only be used when no-one else will be affected.
Text book.
Yep. You ever wonder why it's in the text book??? Did you ever read said book (or the highway code?) and bother to think about what's in it?
Why is it that whenever someone posts on PH attacking the way a BMW drove, or a rep drove (for example), you DON'T get BMW drivers or reps defending that particular individual. Yet when someone criticises the way a biker behaved, quite a number (not all, I hasten to add) of bikers wade in with both feet firmly in their mouths??? Either some of the bikers here are the most insecure people on the forum, or they feel that the whole biking fraternity are somehow better than other road users, and beyond reproach.
Either way, it's frankly pathetic.
What's really pathetic is people like you (who don't even have bikes) who come in here purely to wind people up. Why are you here?
What exactly is your problem , last time i checked this was a public forum
Marki said:
Carrera2 said:
havoc said:
Carrera2 said:
havoc said:
If he believes they're using main beam, then he has a point. Main beam is distracting and dazzling to other road users, and should only be used when no-one else will be affected.
Text book.
Yep. You ever wonder why it's in the text book??? Did you ever read said book (or the highway code?) and bother to think about what's in it?
Why is it that whenever someone posts on PH attacking the way a BMW drove, or a rep drove (for example), you DON'T get BMW drivers or reps defending that particular individual. Yet when someone criticises the way a biker behaved, quite a number (not all, I hasten to add) of bikers wade in with both feet firmly in their mouths??? Either some of the bikers here are the most insecure people on the forum, or they feel that the whole biking fraternity are somehow better than other road users, and beyond reproach.
Either way, it's frankly pathetic.
What's really pathetic is people like you (who don't even have bikes) who come in here purely to wind people up. Why are you here?
What exactly is your problem , last time i checked this was a public forum
I thought I'd made it fairly obvious.
I'll try again.
Someone, who clearly has no interest in bikes posts, an inflammatory post in Biker Banter regarding headlights and pull-away speeds at traffic lights. I, politely pull him up on it and various people who've never said a word in here before (ie non bike riders) pipe up and tell me to shut it.
That's whats up.
How do you think it would go down if I went into the BMW section and made sweeping generalisations about BM drivers for no real reason?
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