Tell Me About Ducati's
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moto_traxport said:
It must be me but the WTF is all this about the Desmoseideici? Really really just don't get it.
First of all its styled like a cross between an early jellymould CBR600 on badly fitting race bodywork and one of those dumb seal-like animals that live in Florida (keep getting hit by boats - Manatees?).
Second - pointlessly noisey - like a neighbour near me that's fitted a Racefit Growler to his GSXR.
Thirdly - bet its no quicker, faster than a 5 year old Jap litre bike.
Annoys me that I "should" lust after one for some reason.
First of all its styled like a cross between an early jellymould CBR600 on badly fitting race bodywork and one of those dumb seal-like animals that live in Florida (keep getting hit by boats - Manatees?).
Second - pointlessly noisey - like a neighbour near me that's fitted a Racefit Growler to his GSXR.
Thirdly - bet its no quicker, faster than a 5 year old Jap litre bike.
Annoys me that I "should" lust after one for some reason.
totally agree...
fergus said:
moto_traxport said:
It must be me but the WTF is all this about the Desmoseideici? Really really just don't get it.
First of all its styled like a cross between an early jellymould CBR600 on badly fitting race bodywork and one of those dumb seal-like animals that live in Florida (keep getting hit by boats - Manatees?).
Second - pointlessly noisey - like a neighbour near me that's fitted a Racefit Growler to his GSXR.
Thirdly - bet its no quicker, faster than a 5 year old Jap litre bike.
Annoys me that I "should" lust after one for some reason.
First of all its styled like a cross between an early jellymould CBR600 on badly fitting race bodywork and one of those dumb seal-like animals that live in Florida (keep getting hit by boats - Manatees?).
Second - pointlessly noisey - like a neighbour near me that's fitted a Racefit Growler to his GSXR.
Thirdly - bet its no quicker, faster than a 5 year old Jap litre bike.
Annoys me that I "should" lust after one for some reason.
totally agree...moto_traxport said:
Kawasicki said:
I've never owned a Ducati, but is an early mid nineties 900ss that expensive to buy or run? They have nice handling, decent power, simple mechanical layout. What's not to like?
Owned a 900 Supersport for a couple of years and put 20k on it with never a problem. Think the aircooled stuff is reasonably sorted reliability wise. Early 748's are a bit tempremental.bass gt3 said:
Biker's Nemesis said:
bass gt3 said:
Biker's Nemesis said:
Well you've had a Suzuki so there's only One step further down the rung.
I'd rather eat worms than own a Ducati.
You have no soul man!! Shame on you...I'd rather eat worms than own a Ducati.
And i suspect the worms would rather you eat the ducati
I think "soul" covers the 10 points that you've posted rather well. I don't mind Ducati's, no really I don't, let everyone ride/own what they want.
I just happen to know they make useless road bikes where I live, they don't last long at all up here, maybe down South where people use their bikes to pose at the local bike shop or burger bar. Ouch!! Saucer of milk, table 9!!
Having a pampered garage queen for a track bike doesn't make a good road bike, if I wanted all the "character" that Ducati's supposably possess I go and by a 1950's BSA. fair point, well made
|Personally speaking, my track riding now is for fun, as you alluded to about being in any group and having a blast. And for me, the Duc just hit's the spot.
And if i'm honest, being a engineer, i love the constant tinkering with her. But i don't think i could actually encourage someone to buy an older model, not without their eyes WIDE open.
Oh, BTW.
backatcha!!Edited by bass gt3 on Friday 2nd July 11:29
First of all its styled like a cross between an early jellymould CBR600 on badly fitting race bodywork and one of those dumb seal-like animals that live in Florida (keep getting hit by boats - Manatees?).
Second - pointlessly noisey - like a neighbour near me that's fitted a Racefit Growler to his GSXR.
Thirdly - bet its no quicker, faster than a 5 year old Jap litre bike.
Annoys me that I "should" lust after one for some reason.
Something cafe racer style like an NCR or Pierobon F042 floats my boat until you get to the wallet bit!
http://www.ducaticoventry.com/jhp-projects.php?nid...
As for Ducati as a whole - I keep getting the 996 itch, but a couple of things put me off other than the servicing.
1. a guy I respect who raced in Italy and had his own car and bike repair business in Italy for years said he wouldn't have a Ducati if he was given one... Quite a strong feeling for a guy who loves bikes and knows them inside out.
2. A friend of my dad's has a small Ducati collection and has 3 916/996's. This guy loves Ducati, but when asked by my dad why he had 3 essentially same model bikes, he joked that if he had 3 it should mean he always had 1 that worked on any given day.
These days I reckon I'd end up getting an RSV1000R if I went the V twin route
3doorPete said:
moto_traxport said:
Kawasicki said:
I've never owned a Ducati, but is an early mid nineties 900ss that expensive to buy or run? They have nice handling, decent power, simple mechanical layout. What's not to like?
Owned a 900 Supersport for a couple of years and put 20k on it with never a problem. Think the aircooled stuff is reasonably sorted reliability wise. Early 748's are a bit tempremental.bass gt3 said:
Biker's Nemesis said:
bass gt3 said:
Biker's Nemesis said:
Well you've had a Suzuki so there's only One step further down the rung.
I'd rather eat worms than own a Ducati.
You have no soul man!! Shame on you...I'd rather eat worms than own a Ducati.
And i suspect the worms would rather you eat the ducati
I think "soul" covers the 10 points that you've posted rather well. I don't mind Ducati's, no really I don't, let everyone ride/own what they want.
I just happen to know they make useless road bikes where I live, they don't last long at all up here, maybe down South where people use their bikes to pose at the local bike shop or burger bar. Ouch!! Saucer of milk, table 9!!
Having a pampered garage queen for a track bike doesn't make a good road bike, if I wanted all the "character" that Ducati's supposably possess I go and by a 1950's BSA. fair point, well made
|Personally speaking, my track riding now is for fun, as you alluded to about being in any group and having a blast. And for me, the Duc just hit's the spot.
And if i'm honest, being a engineer, i love the constant tinkering with her. But i don't think i could actually encourage someone to buy an older model, not without their eyes WIDE open.
Oh, BTW.
backatcha!!Edited by bass gt3 on Friday 2nd July 11:29
First of all its styled like a cross between an early jellymould CBR600 on badly fitting race bodywork and one of those dumb seal-like animals that live in Florida (keep getting hit by boats - Manatees?).
Second - pointlessly noisey - like a neighbour near me that's fitted a Racefit Growler to his GSXR.
Thirdly - bet its no quicker, faster than a 5 year old Jap litre bike.
Annoys me that I "should" lust after one for some reason.
Something cafe racer style like an NCR or Pierobon F042 floats my boat until you get to the wallet bit!
http://www.ducaticoventry.com/jhp-projects.php?nid...
As for Ducati as a whole - I keep getting the 996 itch, but a couple of things put me off other than the servicing.
1. a guy I respect who raced in Italy and had his own car and bike repair business in Italy for years said he wouldn't have a Ducati if he was given one... Quite a strong feeling for a guy who loves bikes and knows them inside out.
2. A friend of my dad's has a small Ducati collection and has 3 916/996's. This guy loves Ducati, but when asked by my dad why he had 3 essentially same model bikes, he joked that if he had 3 it should mean he always had 1 that worked on any given day.
These days I reckon I'd end up getting an RSV1000R if I went the V twin route
ks excuse my French love people who haven't owned a Ducati saying why they won't have one, on my 3rd loved all of them the SPS has been to the TT been to Monaco travelled down the N85 rode to Plymouth, Manchester and commute on it if the weathers good, its used hard but maintained lovingly, don't give advice if you haven't owned one or stop talking about it and go and buy one......fergus said:
moto_traxport said:
It must be me but the WTF is all this about the Desmoseideici? Really really just don't get it.
First of all its styled like a cross between an early jellymould CBR600 on badly fitting race bodywork and one of those dumb seal-like animals that live in Florida (keep getting hit by boats - Manatees?).
Second - pointlessly noisey - like a neighbour near me that's fitted a Racefit Growler to his GSXR.
Thirdly - bet its no quicker, faster than a 5 year old Jap litre bike.
Annoys me that I "should" lust after one for some reason.
First of all its styled like a cross between an early jellymould CBR600 on badly fitting race bodywork and one of those dumb seal-like animals that live in Florida (keep getting hit by boats - Manatees?).
Second - pointlessly noisey - like a neighbour near me that's fitted a Racefit Growler to his GSXR.
Thirdly - bet its no quicker, faster than a 5 year old Jap litre bike.
Annoys me that I "should" lust after one for some reason.
totally agree...996 sps said:
3doorPete said:
moto_traxport said:
Kawasicki said:
I've never owned a Ducati, but is an early mid nineties 900ss that expensive to buy or run? They have nice handling, decent power, simple mechanical layout. What's not to like?
Owned a 900 Supersport for a couple of years and put 20k on it with never a problem. Think the aircooled stuff is reasonably sorted reliability wise. Early 748's are a bit tempremental.bass gt3 said:
Biker's Nemesis said:
bass gt3 said:
Biker's Nemesis said:
Well you've had a Suzuki so there's only One step further down the rung.
I'd rather eat worms than own a Ducati.
You have no soul man!! Shame on you...I'd rather eat worms than own a Ducati.
And i suspect the worms would rather you eat the ducati
I think "soul" covers the 10 points that you've posted rather well. I don't mind Ducati's, no really I don't, let everyone ride/own what they want.
I just happen to know they make useless road bikes where I live, they don't last long at all up here, maybe down South where people use their bikes to pose at the local bike shop or burger bar. Ouch!! Saucer of milk, table 9!!
Having a pampered garage queen for a track bike doesn't make a good road bike, if I wanted all the "character" that Ducati's supposably possess I go and by a 1950's BSA. fair point, well made
|Personally speaking, my track riding now is for fun, as you alluded to about being in any group and having a blast. And for me, the Duc just hit's the spot.
And if i'm honest, being a engineer, i love the constant tinkering with her. But i don't think i could actually encourage someone to buy an older model, not without their eyes WIDE open.
Oh, BTW.
backatcha!!Edited by bass gt3 on Friday 2nd July 11:29
First of all its styled like a cross between an early jellymould CBR600 on badly fitting race bodywork and one of those dumb seal-like animals that live in Florida (keep getting hit by boats - Manatees?).
Second - pointlessly noisey - like a neighbour near me that's fitted a Racefit Growler to his GSXR.
Thirdly - bet its no quicker, faster than a 5 year old Jap litre bike.
Annoys me that I "should" lust after one for some reason.
Something cafe racer style like an NCR or Pierobon F042 floats my boat until you get to the wallet bit!
http://www.ducaticoventry.com/jhp-projects.php?nid...
As for Ducati as a whole - I keep getting the 996 itch, but a couple of things put me off other than the servicing.
1. a guy I respect who raced in Italy and had his own car and bike repair business in Italy for years said he wouldn't have a Ducati if he was given one... Quite a strong feeling for a guy who loves bikes and knows them inside out.
2. A friend of my dad's has a small Ducati collection and has 3 916/996's. This guy loves Ducati, but when asked by my dad why he had 3 essentially same model bikes, he joked that if he had 3 it should mean he always had 1 that worked on any given day.
These days I reckon I'd end up getting an RSV1000R if I went the V twin route
ks excuse my French love people who haven't owned a Ducati saying why they won't have one, on my 3rd loved all of them the SPS has been to the TT been to Monaco travelled down the N85 rode to Plymouth, Manchester and commute on it if the weathers good, its used hard but maintained lovingly, don't give advice if you haven't owned one or stop talking about it and go and buy one......996 sps said:
996 sps said:
3doorPete said:
moto_traxport said:
Kawasicki said:
I've never owned a Ducati, but is an early mid nineties 900ss that expensive to buy or run? They have nice handling, decent power, simple mechanical layout. What's not to like?
Owned a 900 Supersport for a couple of years and put 20k on it with never a problem. Think the aircooled stuff is reasonably sorted reliability wise. Early 748's are a bit tempremental.bass gt3 said:
Biker's Nemesis said:
bass gt3 said:
Biker's Nemesis said:
Well you've had a Suzuki so there's only One step further down the rung.
I'd rather eat worms than own a Ducati.
You have no soul man!! Shame on you...I'd rather eat worms than own a Ducati.
And i suspect the worms would rather you eat the ducati
I think "soul" covers the 10 points that you've posted rather well. I don't mind Ducati's, no really I don't, let everyone ride/own what they want.
I just happen to know they make useless road bikes where I live, they don't last long at all up here, maybe down South where people use their bikes to pose at the local bike shop or burger bar. Ouch!! Saucer of milk, table 9!!
Having a pampered garage queen for a track bike doesn't make a good road bike, if I wanted all the "character" that Ducati's supposably possess I go and by a 1950's BSA. fair point, well made
|Personally speaking, my track riding now is for fun, as you alluded to about being in any group and having a blast. And for me, the Duc just hit's the spot.
And if i'm honest, being a engineer, i love the constant tinkering with her. But i don't think i could actually encourage someone to buy an older model, not without their eyes WIDE open.
Oh, BTW.
backatcha!!Edited by bass gt3 on Friday 2nd July 11:29
First of all its styled like a cross between an early jellymould CBR600 on badly fitting race bodywork and one of those dumb seal-like animals that live in Florida (keep getting hit by boats - Manatees?).
Second - pointlessly noisey - like a neighbour near me that's fitted a Racefit Growler to his GSXR.
Thirdly - bet its no quicker, faster than a 5 year old Jap litre bike.
Annoys me that I "should" lust after one for some reason.
Something cafe racer style like an NCR or Pierobon F042 floats my boat until you get to the wallet bit!
http://www.ducaticoventry.com/jhp-projects.php?nid...
As for Ducati as a whole - I keep getting the 996 itch, but a couple of things put me off other than the servicing.
1. a guy I respect who raced in Italy and had his own car and bike repair business in Italy for years said he wouldn't have a Ducati if he was given one... Quite a strong feeling for a guy who loves bikes and knows them inside out.
2. A friend of my dad's has a small Ducati collection and has 3 916/996's. This guy loves Ducati, but when asked by my dad why he had 3 essentially same model bikes, he joked that if he had 3 it should mean he always had 1 that worked on any given day.
These days I reckon I'd end up getting an RSV1000R if I went the V twin route
ks excuse my French love people who haven't owned a Ducati saying why they won't have one, on my 3rd loved all of them the SPS has been to the TT been to Monaco travelled down the N85 rode to Plymouth, Manchester and commute on it if the weathers good, its used hard but maintained lovingly, don't give advice if you haven't owned one or stop talking about it and go and buy one......tbag that's likely to have many of the TADS issues known to the model. He isn't going to be buying an immaculate low mileage FSH Ducatisti garage queen at that price.I gave my reasons why I've been put off after coming close twice. I love people who've had a couple, not had any problems whilst chucking tonnes of money at them, then convince themselves they are all wonderful.
Plenty of those people in the TVR world (another marque requiring... commitment) when I owned them - seems like the Ducati world is the same.
996 sps said:
fergus said:
moto_traxport said:
It must be me but the WTF is all this about the Desmoseideici? Really really just don't get it.
First of all its styled like a cross between an early jellymould CBR600 on badly fitting race bodywork and one of those dumb seal-like animals that live in Florida (keep getting hit by boats - Manatees?).
Second - pointlessly noisey - like a neighbour near me that's fitted a Racefit Growler to his GSXR.
Thirdly - bet its no quicker, faster than a 5 year old Jap litre bike.
Annoys me that I "should" lust after one for some reason.
First of all its styled like a cross between an early jellymould CBR600 on badly fitting race bodywork and one of those dumb seal-like animals that live in Florida (keep getting hit by boats - Manatees?).
Second - pointlessly noisey - like a neighbour near me that's fitted a Racefit Growler to his GSXR.
Thirdly - bet its no quicker, faster than a 5 year old Jap litre bike.
Annoys me that I "should" lust after one for some reason.
totally agree...Tango13 said:
fergus said:
moto_traxport said:
It must be me but the WTF is all this about the Desmoseideici? Really really just don't get it.
First of all its styled like a cross between an early jellymould CBR600 on badly fitting race bodywork and one of those dumb seal-like animals that live in Florida (keep getting hit by boats - Manatees?).
Second - pointlessly noisey - like a neighbour near me that's fitted a Racefit Growler to his GSXR.
Thirdly - bet its no quicker, faster than a 5 year old Jap litre bike.
Annoys me that I "should" lust after one for some reason.
First of all its styled like a cross between an early jellymould CBR600 on badly fitting race bodywork and one of those dumb seal-like animals that live in Florida (keep getting hit by boats - Manatees?).
Second - pointlessly noisey - like a neighbour near me that's fitted a Racefit Growler to his GSXR.
Thirdly - bet its no quicker, faster than a 5 year old Jap litre bike.
Annoys me that I "should" lust after one for some reason.
totally agree...
Aside for the rectangular headlamps I'm not seeing it.
Edited by Talksteer on Saturday 3rd July 12:52
It could be reasonably argued that the NR750 was inspired by the 851 all H**** did was to put the pipes under the seat
On the yellow one ^^^^ the Ducati sticker is in the wrong place, should be on the tank with the 748 0r 916 996 on the side of the fairing. They did have Ducati on the fairing for a short while but it was a lot higher up.
On the yellow one ^^^^ the Ducati sticker is in the wrong place, should be on the tank with the 748 0r 916 996 on the side of the fairing. They did have Ducati on the fairing for a short while but it was a lot higher up.
Biker's Nemesis said:
catso said:
Tango13 said:
Don't forget that Ducati copied the styling for the 916/996 848/1198 etc and the desmodecci from the Honda NR750
Perhaps, but unlike the NR750 Ducati made the 916 look good, it also did quite well in racing...
but the NR750 never was much of a 'looker' IMO. 
catso said:
Biker's Nemesis said:
catso said:
Tango13 said:
Don't forget that Ducati copied the styling for the 916/996 848/1198 etc and the desmodecci from the Honda NR750
Perhaps, but unlike the NR750 Ducati made the 916 look good, it also did quite well in racing... but the NR750 never was much of a 'looker' IMO. Add me to the list of people who don't like the Desmosedici, and I consider myself to be a Ducati fan!. I think they look good enough, but it all goes to pot when it comes to the engine, a V4 (or anything other than a Vtwin) doesn't belong in a Ducati. They may as well stick "Interceptor" or "V-tec" decals on the side of it. 
As for ownership, I had a 1993 900SS, one of the older oil cooled models and the only time it let me down was when a throttle cable snapped. I tend to agree with the previous poster who suggested that the older simpler technology ones were OK as that was what I had. At the time I had friends with an 851 and an 888 and they seemed to be a bit more temperamental, but then theirs always got them home.
I would definitely have another if what I wanted was in my price range.
As for ownership, I had a 1993 900SS, one of the older oil cooled models and the only time it let me down was when a throttle cable snapped. I tend to agree with the previous poster who suggested that the older simpler technology ones were OK as that was what I had. At the time I had friends with an 851 and an 888 and they seemed to be a bit more temperamental, but then theirs always got them home.
I would definitely have another if what I wanted was in my price range.
moto_traxport said:
It must be me but the WTF is all this about the Desmoseideici? Really really just don't get it.
First of all its styled like a cross between an early jellymould CBR600 on badly fitting race bodywork and one of those dumb seal-like animals that live in Florida (keep getting hit by boats - Manatees?).
Second - pointlessly noisey - like a neighbour near me that's fitted a Racefit Growler to his GSXR.
Thirdly - bet its no quicker, faster than a 5 year old Jap litre bike.
Annoys me that I "should" lust after one for some reason.
Something cafe racer style like an NCR or Pierobon F042 floats my boat until you get to the wallet bit!
http://www.ducaticoventry.com/jhp-projects.php?nid...
Sorry fella, but you're sooooofar off base here. Ride a Desmo in anger, and then comment. yes, theyare loud, have questionable looks and are mainly bought by people who have a Simoniz fetish.First of all its styled like a cross between an early jellymould CBR600 on badly fitting race bodywork and one of those dumb seal-like animals that live in Florida (keep getting hit by boats - Manatees?).
Second - pointlessly noisey - like a neighbour near me that's fitted a Racefit Growler to his GSXR.
Thirdly - bet its no quicker, faster than a 5 year old Jap litre bike.
Annoys me that I "should" lust after one for some reason.
Something cafe racer style like an NCR or Pierobon F042 floats my boat until you get to the wallet bit!
http://www.ducaticoventry.com/jhp-projects.php?nid...
But, ride one and all is revealed. They are stupendous. as quick as a 5 year old jap bike? with 200bhp? i think not. The chassis is a phenomenon, so tight it would make you weep. If this is the closest we'll ever getto riding a Moto GP machine, then i can shuffle off this mortal coil a happy man.
I'm fortunate here that i have a lot of friends/aquaintances who love their toys. Hence i've ridden a Desmo, in anger, an NCR Millona One Shot (the guy has 3!!) Bimota's, David Checa's R1 from a couple of years ago, 1098R's KTM RC8R etc. The NCR's are hilarious. Quick in a very deceptive way, so light they just hoof of the corners. Clinton pienaar, who just did his first IOM raced one in the BOTTS series and was quicker than the 1098R's, admittedly on the tighter, smaller tracks. The engineering is stonking. But, a Desmo in full war cry, with the race pipes?
putting aside my love of the marque, we should applaaud them for releaing such a machine for general consuption. Is it 3 times as good as the average Jap 1000 price vs price.? hell yeah, and then some.It's a bargain.
Oh, and fit the BST wheels, and recalibrate the electronics with the many modsavailable now, and you have the whole smorgesbord of tyres to choose rom, as the OE is pretty crap.
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