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Now this may seem like a weird question, but how do you know when you're holding someone up when filtering? On the rare occasions I have to filter for any length of time, I might have another rider behind me, and anytime I let them pass they are slower than I am.
Short of the times I have to stop because the panniers won't fit, how can I tell if you actually want to go past?
Short of the times I have to stop because the panniers won't fit, how can I tell if you actually want to go past?
Alex@POD said:
Now this may seem like a weird question, but how do you know when you're holding someone up when filtering? On the rare occasions I have to filter for any length of time, I might have another rider behind me, and anytime I let them pass they are slower than I am.
Short of the times I have to stop because the panniers won't fit, how can I tell if you actually want to go past?
I hang off their ass / give them a quick beep if they don't notice me with a thank you as i pass.Short of the times I have to stop because the panniers won't fit, how can I tell if you actually want to go past?
Both as antisocial as each other. If we are closely matched speed in London I will keep back and just carry on.
A guy yesterday was dangerously trying to go for gaps that were too small for his bike to prevent himself moving over. It was all quite macho sad. So i just dropped back to stop him squashing himself.
my current Top5 c*nt list
1. bus drivers who, presumably frustrated by the endless stream of cyclists, have now decided to just use both lanes and drive down the middle, rather than use the yes, bus lane. you cant squeeze down the left because too much chance you'll get trapped by the peleton. And theres now an even bigger queue of cars behind the bus.
2. the increasing number of cyclists who seem to have taken it upon themselves to police 20 mph limits. by cycling in the middle of the road, at 20
3. drivers who cant pull out from a side road without crossing the centre line and nearly kebabing me. Please learn how much lock your car has. then use it
4. cyclists who creep up your inside left at lights, despite having my indicator on to turn left, who then go straight on when the lights change. So fed up with that I now sit an inch off the kerb with my foot on the kerb
5. scooter riders (not exclusively) with no wing mirrors who then drift into your path. you cant ride safely with no mirrors. should be impounded
c*nts the lot of them
1. bus drivers who, presumably frustrated by the endless stream of cyclists, have now decided to just use both lanes and drive down the middle, rather than use the yes, bus lane. you cant squeeze down the left because too much chance you'll get trapped by the peleton. And theres now an even bigger queue of cars behind the bus.
2. the increasing number of cyclists who seem to have taken it upon themselves to police 20 mph limits. by cycling in the middle of the road, at 20
3. drivers who cant pull out from a side road without crossing the centre line and nearly kebabing me. Please learn how much lock your car has. then use it
4. cyclists who creep up your inside left at lights, despite having my indicator on to turn left, who then go straight on when the lights change. So fed up with that I now sit an inch off the kerb with my foot on the kerb
5. scooter riders (not exclusively) with no wing mirrors who then drift into your path. you cant ride safely with no mirrors. should be impounded
c*nts the lot of them
supercommuter said:
Alex@POD said:
Now this may seem like a weird question, but how do you know when you're holding someone up when filtering? On the rare occasions I have to filter for any length of time, I might have another rider behind me, and anytime I let them pass they are slower than I am.
Short of the times I have to stop because the panniers won't fit, how can I tell if you actually want to go past?
I hang off their ass / give them a quick beep if they don't notice me with a thank you as i pass.Short of the times I have to stop because the panniers won't fit, how can I tell if you actually want to go past?
Both as antisocial as each other. If we are closely matched speed in London I will keep back and just carry on.
A guy yesterday was dangerously trying to go for gaps that were too small for his bike to prevent himself moving over. It was all quite macho sad. So i just dropped back to stop him squashing himself.
Alex@POD said:
Now this may seem like a weird question, but how do you know when you're holding someone up when filtering? On the rare occasions I have to filter for any length of time, I might have another rider behind me, and anytime I let them pass they are slower than I am.
Short of the times I have to stop because the panniers won't fit, how can I tell if you actually want to go past?
If you're paying attention then you'll notice they close on you quickly and may not have been there initially or recently. i.e. they've clearly caught you up. Experience tells you this. You do have riders who only catch you up because you are hindered by traffic like the pannier challenge you mentioned - there is a clear difference here. Its all down to observation here.Short of the times I have to stop because the panniers won't fit, how can I tell if you actually want to go past?
As others have said you get those when you clearly catch them up that try too hard to keep ahead of you too to a point where they're going to have an accident.
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squirdan said:
my current Top5 c*nt list
1. bus drivers who, presumably frustrated by the endless stream of cyclists, have now decided to just use both lanes and drive down the middle, rather than use the yes, bus lane. you cant squeeze down the left because too much chance you'll get trapped by the peleton. And theres now an even bigger queue of cars behind the bus.
2. the increasing number of cyclists who seem to have taken it upon themselves to police 20 mph limits. by cycling in the middle of the road, at 20
3. drivers who cant pull out from a side road without crossing the centre line and nearly kebabing me. Please learn how much lock your car has. then use it
4. cyclists who creep up your inside left at lights, despite having my indicator on to turn left, who then go straight on when the lights change. So fed up with that I now sit an inch off the kerb with my foot on the kerb
5. scooter riders (not exclusively) with no wing mirrors who then drift into your path. you cant ride safely with no mirrors. should be impounded
c*nts the lot of them
All of the above, plus;1. bus drivers who, presumably frustrated by the endless stream of cyclists, have now decided to just use both lanes and drive down the middle, rather than use the yes, bus lane. you cant squeeze down the left because too much chance you'll get trapped by the peleton. And theres now an even bigger queue of cars behind the bus.
2. the increasing number of cyclists who seem to have taken it upon themselves to police 20 mph limits. by cycling in the middle of the road, at 20
3. drivers who cant pull out from a side road without crossing the centre line and nearly kebabing me. Please learn how much lock your car has. then use it
4. cyclists who creep up your inside left at lights, despite having my indicator on to turn left, who then go straight on when the lights change. So fed up with that I now sit an inch off the kerb with my foot on the kerb
5. scooter riders (not exclusively) with no wing mirrors who then drift into your path. you cant ride safely with no mirrors. should be impounded
c*nts the lot of them
6. Taxi drivers, professional drivers my arse! The rules of the road, traffic lights, give way signs, mirrors and general consideration just don't apply to the majority of them.
Desiato said:
All of the above, plus;
6. Taxi drivers, professional drivers my arse! The rules of the road, traffic lights, give way signs, mirrors and general consideration just don't apply to the majority of them.
7. The guy who decided on the width of the eastbound lane on lower Thames street. One foot more road and one foot less on the partition with the cycle super highway and 100,s of us would get home a lot quicker and happier.6. Taxi drivers, professional drivers my arse! The rules of the road, traffic lights, give way signs, mirrors and general consideration just don't apply to the majority of them.
8. Cyclists who think it's clever to park 3 or 4 abreast in front of a motorcycle in the outside lane at traffic lights. What do they think is going to happen.
9. Scooterists who think they can wiggle across any lane any time without looking yet choose to wear bare minimum of safety gear. At least with summer over I don't have to watch these knobs filter through the traffic wearing chuffing flip flops.
10. Me for clipping a vans wing mirror ( just, at walking pace no damage done) on the way home tonight.
I crashed!
I'm author of my own misfortune! (After commenting on other thread about not wearing leathers haha)
Feck my knee hurts
(It's not too gory)
Caused my me running up this great bit of road design; I had gone to ride up it (the lipped part, foolish I know) fairly near the beginning. Next thing I was chucked off and sliding down the road towards the hoarding. The lip is much deeper than it looks, I think it must be a couple of inches, maybe a bit more.
I'm author of my own misfortune! (After commenting on other thread about not wearing leathers haha)
Feck my knee hurts
(It's not too gory)
Caused my me running up this great bit of road design; I had gone to ride up it (the lipped part, foolish I know) fairly near the beginning. Next thing I was chucked off and sliding down the road towards the hoarding. The lip is much deeper than it looks, I think it must be a couple of inches, maybe a bit more.
Davemc37 said:
7. The guy who decided on the width of the eastbound lane on lower Thames street. One foot more road and one foot less on the partition with the cycle super highway and 100,s of us would get home a lot quicker and happier.
8. Cyclists who think it's clever to park 3 or 4 abreast in front of a motorcycle in the outside lane at traffic lights. What do they think is going to happen.
9. Scooterists who think they can wiggle across any lane any time without looking yet choose to wear bare minimum of safety gear. At least with summer over I don't have to watch these knobs filter through the traffic wearing chuffing flip flops.
10. Me for clipping a vans wing mirror ( just, at walking pace no damage done) on the way home tonight.
11 school run mums in west London who double park the Range Rover then open their doors onto traffic without looking; some of whom even get their primary school kids to do the same.8. Cyclists who think it's clever to park 3 or 4 abreast in front of a motorcycle in the outside lane at traffic lights. What do they think is going to happen.
9. Scooterists who think they can wiggle across any lane any time without looking yet choose to wear bare minimum of safety gear. At least with summer over I don't have to watch these knobs filter through the traffic wearing chuffing flip flops.
10. Me for clipping a vans wing mirror ( just, at walking pace no damage done) on the way home tonight.
CoolHands said:
Caused my me running up this great bit of road design; I had gone to ride up it (the lipped part, foolish I know) fairly near the beginning. Next thing I was chucked off and sliding down the road towards the hoarding. The lip is much deeper than it looks, I think it must be a couple of inches, maybe a bit more.
You were trying to ride on the pavement?CoolHands said:
I crashed!
I'm author of my own misfortune! (After commenting on other thread about not wearing leathers haha)
Feck my knee hurts
(It's not too gory)
Caused my me running up this great bit of road design; I had gone to ride up it (the lipped part, foolish I know) fairly near the beginning. Next thing I was chucked off and sliding down the road towards the hoarding. The lip is much deeper than it looks, I think it must be a couple of inches, maybe a bit more.
That is a cracking bit of road design! I can see why you were fooled into thinking it was on the same level as the road. I'm glad to hear that your injuries are minor. I hope the heal quickly.I'm author of my own misfortune! (After commenting on other thread about not wearing leathers haha)
Feck my knee hurts
(It's not too gory)
Caused my me running up this great bit of road design; I had gone to ride up it (the lipped part, foolish I know) fairly near the beginning. Next thing I was chucked off and sliding down the road towards the hoarding. The lip is much deeper than it looks, I think it must be a couple of inches, maybe a bit more.
Shoulder's killing me; knee ok. I went down like a WWF 'smackdown', my arm up and out in front of me. Really pulled something / tendons / whatever. Can't raise it to put T-shirt on!
To be honest I know the raised bit is there and I was going on it deliberately to get around numpty car drivers that weren't moving (various traffic stuff). But the lip is a lot higher than I realised. Impatience on my part really.
To be honest I know the raised bit is there and I was going on it deliberately to get around numpty car drivers that weren't moving (various traffic stuff). But the lip is a lot higher than I realised. Impatience on my part really.
Had my first real SMIDSY in a long time on the way home last night at the final roundabout at Sunbury before the M3 proper starts. I was at the traffic lights right at the front waiting to go on to the roundabout.
I should have clocked the impatient b
d because a) he was driving a Range Rover (always a alert in my book) and b) he clearly jumped the lights to get round into the queue of traffic waiting at the lights on the roundabout (crap design). There are two lanes on the roundabout and he was on the inside lane. And then despite:
- being in the wrong lane,
- not signalling,
- me being in the way in the other lane on a big white bike
...carried on towards the first exit off the roundabout. Thankfully he didn't hit me and while my avoiding action triggered the ABS and nearly dropped the bike that was it, other than forcing me up the side road that he was going up rather than carrying on up the M3. The tt at least said sorry but what do you do? It's almost guaranteed that he was on his phone or playing with one of the toys in the car.
The weird thing is after any proper near miss like that I always want to go as fast as I can which is never a good answer whilst the body is pumped with adrenalin. Anyway, I'm at home today and don't have to watch out for moron Range Rovers which is a win in my book.
I should have clocked the impatient b
d because a) he was driving a Range Rover (always a alert in my book) and b) he clearly jumped the lights to get round into the queue of traffic waiting at the lights on the roundabout (crap design). There are two lanes on the roundabout and he was on the inside lane. And then despite: - being in the wrong lane,
- not signalling,
- me being in the way in the other lane on a big white bike
...carried on towards the first exit off the roundabout. Thankfully he didn't hit me and while my avoiding action triggered the ABS and nearly dropped the bike that was it, other than forcing me up the side road that he was going up rather than carrying on up the M3. The t
t at least said sorry but what do you do? It's almost guaranteed that he was on his phone or playing with one of the toys in the car.The weird thing is after any proper near miss like that I always want to go as fast as I can which is never a good answer whilst the body is pumped with adrenalin. Anyway, I'm at home today and don't have to watch out for moron Range Rover
s which is a win in my book.Well last day in the office for a week and I decided to take the bike in the end - was on the train ahead of a very heavy session yesterday and needed the extra hour the bike gives in bed.
I was however nearly taken out by a minicab u-turning from the middle of traffic on the OKR, somehow I twigged it and a big squeeze of the brake later I was stopped with a couple of bike lengths to spare, glad my brakes were fixed last week!
I was however nearly taken out by a minicab u-turning from the middle of traffic on the OKR, somehow I twigged it and a big squeeze of the brake later I was stopped with a couple of bike lengths to spare, glad my brakes were fixed last week!
Davemc37 said:
Desiato said:
All of the above, plus;
6. Taxi drivers, professional drivers my arse! The rules of the road, traffic lights, give way signs, mirrors and general consideration just don't apply to the majority of them.
7. The guy who decided on the width of the eastbound lane on lower Thames street. One foot more road and one foot less on the partition with the cycle super highway and 100,s of us would get home a lot quicker and happier.6. Taxi drivers, professional drivers my arse! The rules of the road, traffic lights, give way signs, mirrors and general consideration just don't apply to the majority of them.
8. Cyclists who think it's clever to park 3 or 4 abreast in front of a motorcycle in the outside lane at traffic lights. What do they think is going to happen.
9. Scooterists who think they can wiggle across any lane any time without looking yet choose to wear bare minimum of safety gear. At least with summer over I don't have to watch these knobs filter through the traffic wearing chuffing flip flops.
10. Me for clipping a vans wing mirror ( just, at walking pace no damage done) on the way home tonight.
7 bugs me every single evening as I'm heading east home
Its the poxy ton of coaches and trucks which cause the issues on this piece of road every evening. What clown also decided on putting the bus/coach stop taking out the lane and available space opps the tower of London too needs shooting too. Also none of the bikes now observe the pointless/unecessary double white line once you're free of the crappy single narrow lane either too after the hung drawn and quartered pub either. What a clusterf**k of a road design!CoolHands said:
Shoulder's killing me; knee ok. I went down like a WWF 'smackdown', my arm up and out in front of me. Really pulled something / tendons / whatever. Can't raise it to put T-shirt on!
To be honest I know the raised bit is there and I was going on it deliberately to get around numpty car drivers that weren't moving (various traffic stuff). But the lip is a lot higher than I realised. Impatience on my part really.
I would of ridden on that as well, stupid bit of road. Live and learn. I would get some kevlar jeans tho. Mine look like normal jeans and the knee padding would have saved your grazing.To be honest I know the raised bit is there and I was going on it deliberately to get around numpty car drivers that weren't moving (various traffic stuff). But the lip is a lot higher than I realised. Impatience on my part really.
CoolHands said:
I crashed!
I'm author of my own misfortune! (After commenting on other thread about not wearing leathers haha)
Feck my knee hurts
(It's not too gory)
Caused my me running up this great bit of road design; I had gone to ride up it (the lipped part, foolish I know) fairly near the beginning. Next thing I was chucked off and sliding down the road towards the hoarding. The lip is much deeper than it looks, I think it must be a couple of inches, maybe a bit more.
that is one stupid road layout - glad your ok - get well soon I'm author of my own misfortune! (After commenting on other thread about not wearing leathers haha)
Feck my knee hurts
(It's not too gory)
Caused my me running up this great bit of road design; I had gone to ride up it (the lipped part, foolish I know) fairly near the beginning. Next thing I was chucked off and sliding down the road towards the hoarding. The lip is much deeper than it looks, I think it must be a couple of inches, maybe a bit more.
Imagine that on a dark evening
CoolHands said:
I crashed!
I'm author of my own misfortune! (After commenting on other thread about not wearing leathers haha)
Feck my knee hurts
(It's not too gory)
Caused my me running up this great bit of road design; I had gone to ride up it (the lipped part, foolish I know) fairly near the beginning. Next thing I was chucked off and sliding down the road towards the hoarding. The lip is much deeper than it looks, I think it must be a couple of inches, maybe a bit more.
I spot the Aeronaut at Acton there. That whole junction has been designed by a planner on crack along with unnecessary and discreetly signed 20 mph limits.I'm author of my own misfortune! (After commenting on other thread about not wearing leathers haha)
Feck my knee hurts
(It's not too gory)
Caused my me running up this great bit of road design; I had gone to ride up it (the lipped part, foolish I know) fairly near the beginning. Next thing I was chucked off and sliding down the road towards the hoarding. The lip is much deeper than it looks, I think it must be a couple of inches, maybe a bit more.
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