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ghibbett

1,901 posts

187 months

Saturday 15th April 2023
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Caddyshack said:





One newbie question: I sometimes get a burning sensation across my shoulders when riding this and other bikes - is this just being tense or that I am 49 yrs old?
What a thing! Love it!

Harris_I

3,229 posts

261 months

Saturday 15th April 2023
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Caddyshack said:
One newbie question: I sometimes get a burning sensation across my shoulders when riding this and other bikes - is this just being tense or that I am 49 yrs old?
Very likely you are just gripping/tensing too hard. I used to do this just after passing (and felt sore afterwards) but learnt to relax and flow with the bike. Try and engage the core and use your knees to grip when pressing on. Keep reminding yourself to take the weight off your wrists and sit up if you can. Try to consciously operate the handlebars as loosely as you can. After a while, you'll realise you don't hurt anymore.

Caddyshack

11,003 posts

208 months

Sunday 16th April 2023
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Harris_I said:
Caddyshack said:
One newbie question: I sometimes get a burning sensation across my shoulders when riding this and other bikes - is this just being tense or that I am 49 yrs old?
Very likely you are just gripping/tensing too hard. I used to do this just after passing (and felt sore afterwards) but learnt to relax and flow with the bike. Try and engage the core and use your knees to grip when pressing on. Keep reminding yourself to take the weight off your wrists and sit up if you can. Try to consciously operate the handlebars as loosely as you can. After a while, you'll realise you don't hurt anymore.
Thank You…assumed it was a tense type thing…will work on that.

grotty

26 posts

17 months

Monday 17th April 2023
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Morning Everyone,

I've been lurking in this thread for a while and reading all your advice. Just want to say thank you to you all as I passed Mod 1 & 2 last week rotate

Done all my training on an mt-07 and found it a bit much. It actually helped me appreciate the easy going nature of my ybr125.

Test riding a cbr500r on saturday but I think it's the one already. I think it looks gorgeous. It's the only 'sport' bike I've sat on that actually feels comfortable.

cheers beer

Edited by grotty on Monday 17th April 08:44

hiccy18

2,717 posts

69 months

Monday 17th April 2023
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Gratz Grotty, and enjoy your new steed! smile

HybridTheory

424 posts

34 months

Monday 17th April 2023
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Well done most people say the MT07 is a lovely bike why did you not get on with it ?

grotty

26 posts

17 months

Monday 17th April 2023
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Thank you guys smile

The character of the engine was really great. Loved the sound. And it's a very agile bike which I liked, flickable/easy to throw into high speed bends.

It was just too much power and torque for me at the moment. I handled it fine, didn't have any bad moments. However I want to work a little bit harder for the performance. Feel like I'm using a tiny fraction of what the bike has available which isn't satisfying.

I might grow out of a slower bike in a few months and regret it. We'll see, haha.

ghibbett

1,901 posts

187 months

Monday 17th April 2023
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Congrats Grotty beer

I collected my Trident yesterday. Really pleased with it and managed just under 50 miles (however the running-in is a bit of a ball ache!).

Some pics below:






black-k1

11,987 posts

231 months

Monday 17th April 2023
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grotty said:
Thank you guys smile

The character of the engine was really great. Loved the sound. And it's a very agile bike which I liked, flickable/easy to throw into high speed bends.

It was just too much power and torque for me at the moment. I handled it fine, didn't have any bad moments. However I want to work a little bit harder for the performance. Feel like I'm using a tiny fraction of what the bike has available which isn't satisfying.
Well done on the pass and the decision on the next bike. clap

Now the real learning starts. biggrin

Ride safe and enjoy!

grotty said:
I might grow out of a slower bike in a few months and regret it. We'll see, haha.
whistle

PT1984

2,323 posts

185 months

Monday 17th April 2023
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So gents. Any tips for starting DAS?

I have been nipping round on my CB125R for experience.

Edited by PT1984 on Monday 17th April 18:36


Edited by PT1984 on Monday 17th April 18:37

Krikkit

26,621 posts

183 months

Monday 17th April 2023
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PT1984 said:
Do gents. Any tips for starting DAS?

I have been nipping round on my CB125R for experience.
Prepare to forget a load of accumulated bad habits! biggrin

Honestly it's quite straight-forward, find a school with a decent size off road area for practicing the Mod1 exercises to make it easier. If you can be bothered grab a set of football training markers, find a big car park and practice on your own, the dimensions for the tests are available online.

About the only new bit is countersteering, make sure you practice it.

Caddyshack

11,003 posts

208 months

Monday 17th April 2023
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Krikkit said:
PT1984 said:
Do gents. Any tips for starting DAS?

I have been nipping round on my CB125R for experience.
Prepare to forget a load of accumulated bad habits! biggrin

Honestly it's quite straight-forward, find a school with a decent size off road area for practicing the Mod1 exercises to make it easier. If you can be bothered grab a set of football training markers, find a big car park and practice on your own, the dimensions for the tests are available online.

About the only new bit is countersteering, make sure you practice it.
I would recommend doing mod 1 training with a training company as they teach good control skills…I think you could learn to pass the test without but the skills are good skills to have. I really enjoyed it too.

HybridTheory

424 posts

34 months

Tuesday 18th April 2023
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Try to pass both first time as it's a bit of a money pit otherwise!

TheInternet

4,743 posts

165 months

Tuesday 18th April 2023
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Krikkit said:
About the only new bit is countersteering, make sure you practice it.
laugh Now you've done it.

TheInternet

4,743 posts

165 months

Tuesday 18th April 2023
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PT1984 said:
So gents. Any tips for starting DAS?

I have been nipping round on my CB125R for experience.
Mod 1 is pretty cheap if you wanted to do it on your 125 and feel it would be helpful have the experience of how the test runs. I did that and on the same day rode the Mod 2 test routes as if on test prior to doing them on the DAS.

PT1984

2,323 posts

185 months

Tuesday 18th April 2023
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I’m certainly doing my full A licence with full training. I have my first 3 hour lesson booked for a fortnights time. They will then advise on the best way to progress. On a new MT07 which I’m looking forward to.

The CB125R will be used for practicing what has been learnt. To be honest I love the little thing. I have no idea how it’s so nippy with 17 stone being applied.

Krikkit

26,621 posts

183 months

Tuesday 18th April 2023
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Caddyshack said:
Krikkit said:
PT1984 said:
Do gents. Any tips for starting DAS?

I have been nipping round on my CB125R for experience.
Prepare to forget a load of accumulated bad habits! biggrin

Honestly it's quite straight-forward, find a school with a decent size off road area for practicing the Mod1 exercises to make it easier. If you can be bothered grab a set of football training markers, find a big car park and practice on your own, the dimensions for the tests are available online.

About the only new bit is countersteering, make sure you practice it.
I would recommend doing mod 1 training with a training company as they teach good control skills…I think you could learn to pass the test without but the skills are good skills to have. I really enjoyed it too.
I absolutely agree you should learn with a school, I just meant when you need a bit of final practice for the Mod1 faff, instead of paying £50/hour to ride a school bike, spend a fiver and practice on a 125 as it's much the same.

TheInternet said:
Krikkit said:
About the only new bit is countersteering, make sure you practice it.
laugh Now you've done it.
biggrin

Caddyshack

11,003 posts

208 months

Tuesday 18th April 2023
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black-k1 said:
grotty said:
Thank you guys smile

The character of the engine was really great. Loved the sound. And it's a very agile bike which I liked, flickable/easy to throw into high speed bends.

It was just too much power and torque for me at the moment. I handled it fine, didn't have any bad moments. However I want to work a little bit harder for the performance. Feel like I'm using a tiny fraction of what the bike has available which isn't satisfying.
Well done on the pass and the decision on the next bike. clap

Now the real learning starts. biggrin

Ride safe and enjoy!

grotty said:
I might grow out of a slower bike in a few months and regret it. We'll see, haha.
whistle
My RS660 (100hp and quite light) felt like a rocket ship that I would never get used to…3 long rides in and now it all feels quite normal.

grotty

26 posts

17 months

Wednesday 19th April 2023
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Caddyshack said:
My RS660 (100hp and quite light) felt like a rocket ship that I would never get used to…3 long rides in and now it all feels quite normal.
That is quite worrying. I've got a test ride on saturday morning. Maybe I'll sample the demonstrator cbr650r too while I'm there.

Insurance quotes for the 500 are very steep already though. I'll have to see how much a bigger bike affects it grumpy

black-k1

11,987 posts

231 months

Wednesday 19th April 2023
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grotty said:
Caddyshack said:
My RS660 (100hp and quite light) felt like a rocket ship that I would never get used to…3 long rides in and now it all feels quite normal.
That is quite worrying. I've got a test ride on saturday morning. Maybe I'll sample the demonstrator cbr650r too while I'm there.

Insurance quotes for the 500 are very steep already though. I'll have to see how much a bigger bike affects it grumpy
This is the reason I'd recommend not spending much money on your first (and maybe second and third) bike post test. Pretty much any bike will feel ballistic from the power increase and the fact that you can now actually give it the full set of beans. However, it doesn't take long until you find that the "my god this is fast" thrill has faded and the throttle is on the stop.

Some people will be happy with that but most find they'd like a bit more, hence the reason not many people have mid range bikes for long periods.

I'd suggest buying something cheap and planning to do a season on it. That'll tell you if you want more as well as helping you understand what else beyond sheer bhp you want from a bike. After a season (or two, ... or three if your indecisive) you can then spend some decent money on something nice that you are better placed to understand.

That approach also has another advantage. We all risk dropping our bikes but the risk is definitely greater when you first start riding. Having a cheap bike for the first year, the time when you are most likely to drop your bike, means that the cost impact is less and it doesn't hurt as much. (You'll still feel like a complete plonker if anyone is watching!! biggrin )