the bb trackday thread.

the bb trackday thread.

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LoonR1

26,988 posts

179 months

Tuesday 11th August 2015
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curlie467 said:
We are only human, it happens!

What's the deal with the M3. Too much awesome and able to use it to its full potential? Its probably like other BMWs and a bit dull.
I keep breaking it and it's gone beyond a joke now.

SAS Tom

3,427 posts

176 months

Tuesday 11th August 2015
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LoonR1 said:
curlie467 said:
We are only human, it happens!

What's the deal with the M3. Too much awesome and able to use it to its full potential? Its probably like other BMWs and a bit dull.
I keep breaking it and it's gone beyond a joke now.
That's a feature they call character. Stops it being dull.

Jazoli

9,129 posts

252 months

Tuesday 11th August 2015
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LoonR1 said:
Oh yeah, I blew one of my exhausts to pieces. I then fitted another and it came in at 99.1dB static (limit 102dB) without a baffle and then three sessions later it was tripping the trackside meter apparently. I'm getting a bit fked off with the noise at Oulton, as if I baffle it then it'll blow itself apart like the other one did.

I'd post a photo, but this st site seems not to want me to do that anymore
Was that the one with the dodgy end cap? It was only a matter of time with that one.

L9 ACP

187 posts

196 months

Tuesday 11th August 2015
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tris88 said:
Had my first track day at brands hatch gp yesterday, was awesome and definitely going to be doing another. Was anyone else from here there?
I was there on my 675 daytona and a mate on an f4 MV

What was you riding? which group?

Ash

LoonR1

26,988 posts

179 months

Tuesday 11th August 2015
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Jazoli said:
LoonR1 said:
Oh yeah, I blew one of my exhausts to pieces. I then fitted another and it came in at 99.1dB static (limit 102dB) without a baffle and then three sessions later it was tripping the trackside meter apparently. I'm getting a bit fked off with the noise at Oulton, as if I baffle it then it'll blow itself apart like the other one did.

I'd post a photo, but this st site seems not to want me to do that anymore
Was that the one with the dodgy end cap? It was only a matter of time with that one.
Please don't say that. That's the one I'm using now. The one that disintegrated was the one that I bought to replace this one! Nervous for the weekend to say the least.

Jazoli

9,129 posts

252 months

Tuesday 11th August 2015
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LoonR1 said:
Please don't say that. That's the one I'm using now. The one that disintegrated was the one that I bought to replace this one! Nervous for the weekend to say the least.
It should be OK without a baffle, as for with I dunno, we'll see I guess, you'd better order some more hugely expensive end caps or change to an alloy exhaust as once carbon has lost its integrity its gone, you could try and keep them off the floor, it might help?

curlie467

7,650 posts

203 months

Tuesday 11th August 2015
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Jazoli said:
LoonR1 said:
Please don't say that. That's the one I'm using now. The one that disintegrated was the one that I bought to replace this one! Nervous for the weekend to say the least.
It should be OK without a baffle, as for with I dunno, we'll see I guess, you'd better order some more hugely expensive end caps or change to an alloy exhaust as once carbon has lost its integrity its gone, you could try and keep them off the floor, it might help?
laughlaugh

LoonR1

26,988 posts

179 months

Tuesday 11th August 2015
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Jazoli said:
It should be OK without a baffle, as for with I dunno, we'll see I guess, you'd better order some more hugely expensive end caps or change to an alloy exhaust as once carbon has lost its integrity its gone, you could try and keep them off the floor, it might help?
I'm getting a couple of cheap stainless stuff from Quill and getting it dyno'd amd set up there. bks to paying £700 per end can, when a stainless one is c£160. I'm not precious over weight, or looks when it comes to a trackbike. In fact the same could be said of my taste in women too.

Biker's Nemesis

38,897 posts

210 months

Tuesday 11th August 2015
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Isn't the noise meter on the start of the pit straight at Oulton?

I hope it is because I always change up an extra gear as I am coming over dears leap.

LoonR1

26,988 posts

179 months

Tuesday 11th August 2015
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Biker's Nemesis said:
Isn't the noise meter on the start of the pit straight at Oulton?

I hope it is because I always change up an extra gear as I am coming over dears leap.
It's on the Pirelli bridge at Clay Hill. There may be several though.

Mr OCD

6,388 posts

213 months

Tuesday 11th August 2015
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Jazoli said:
It should be OK without a baffle, as for with I dunno, we'll see I guess, you'd better order some more hugely expensive end caps or change to an alloy exhaust as once carbon has lost its integrity its gone, you could try and keep them off the floor, it might help?
Baaaaaa haaaaaa haaaaaaa biggrin

LoonR1

26,988 posts

179 months

Tuesday 11th August 2015
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Mr OCD said:
Jazoli said:
It should be OK without a baffle, as for with I dunno, we'll see I guess, you'd better order some more hugely expensive end caps or change to an alloy exhaust as once carbon has lost its integrity its gone, you could try and keep them off the floor, it might help?
Baaaaaa haaaaaa haaaaaaa biggrin
Cheeky buggers. I've crashed this bike twice and had a couple of grass excursions. I'm just pushing things and seeing where my talent runs out.

Biker's Nemesis

38,897 posts

210 months

Tuesday 11th August 2015
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LoonR1 said:
I'm just pushing things and seeing where my talent runs out.
That's right Loon, its easy to wobble around and hang right off with your head where the mirror should be to make yourself look good in photos.

An omelette can't be made without breaking eggs.

tris88

81 posts

148 months

Wednesday 12th August 2015
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L9 ACP said:
I was there on my 675 daytona and a mate on an f4 MV

What was you riding? which group?

Ash
I was in novice as it was my first ever track day, riding the old Honda Hornet - Think I was on the 2nd slowest bike there but I'm sure I didn't find the limit even on this. Pretty sure I saw both your bikes, definitely the MV anyway. Did you have a good time?

I got there around 6:40 and all that was there were shiny track bikes with vans/trailers, me and my mate (on a fireblade) were getting rather concerned there wasn't going to be any road bikes at all that day until thankfully some turned up just before sign on. We both had a wicked time and already looking to book another, think I might fancy a cheap faired bike for next time though as I did find 130mph odd was quite hard on my neck and the rest of me. Anything anyone would recommend, cheap and cheerful but track suited?

L9 ACP

187 posts

196 months

Wednesday 12th August 2015
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tris88 said:
L9 ACP said:
I was there on my 675 daytona and a mate on an f4 MV

What was you riding? which group?

Ash
I was in novice as it was my first ever track day, riding the old Honda Hornet - Think I was on the 2nd slowest bike there but I'm sure I didn't find the limit even on this. Pretty sure I saw both your bikes, definitely the MV anyway. Did you have a good time?

I got there around 6:40 and all that was there were shiny track bikes with vans/trailers, me and my mate (on a fireblade) were getting rather concerned there wasn't going to be any road bikes at all that day until thankfully some turned up just before sign on. We both had a wicked time and already looking to book another, think I might fancy a cheap faired bike for next time though as I did find 130mph odd was quite hard on my neck and the rest of me. Anything anyone would recommend, cheap and cheerful but track suited?
Yeah i recall seeing your bike
Really addictive, such a great day and likewise thinking about a cheap bike i can get for track use only.
Planning the next track day too.

Some awesome machinery in the pit garages

redback911

2,749 posts

268 months

Wednesday 12th August 2015
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Arrived at Snetterton yesterday for my first motorcycle track day in 10 years, and having just started riding again this summer after a similar gap.

What amazed me was the level of kit folks now have for track days. Wets, slicks, portable generators, tyre warmers, etc. Sound like my Dad now, but, when I was a lad we would rock-up on our bikes and ride home after a full day. Very few folks seemed to do this yesterday, not complaining, just amazing to see the change in habits and level of sophistication.

The day was brilliant. Wobbled around in intermediates for a few laps until my tyres warmed up and then started to work the Hypermotard. Its a brilliant bike for the road and was fun at Snetterton but with absolutely no wind protection I hit a brick wall at 130 mph on the straights. It will be an awesome bike at maybe Cadwell (will book a session in August). Might have to look for some supermoto/go kart tracks as well. :-)

Really looking forward to the weekend, I will ride the ZX10R for the first time on Saturday and should be a much better bike for Snetterton.

A few observations.

Early in the day I noticed lots of folks using tyre warmers, are they typically used for slicks and wets? Sticky road/track tyres (like diablo supercorsa sp's, etc.) must warm up this time of year in 1-2 laps?

A lot of red flags during the day. Folks throwing their bikes down the road in the very first lap. Out of the 7 or so intermediate sessions I did, I would say at least 4 were stopped once, with 2 being stopped twice. Is this now typical?

The "novice" session was full of dedicated track bikes and clearly some of the riders were VERY capable. The speed differential was huge.












Fleegle

16,690 posts

178 months

Wednesday 12th August 2015
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redback911 said:
A lot of red flags during the day. Folks throwing their bikes down the road in the very first lap. Out of the 7 or so intermediate sessions I did, I would say at least 4 were stopped once, with 2 being stopped twice. Is this now typical?

It's all dependant on the crowd really, very hit and miss

moanthebairns

Original Poster:

17,998 posts

200 months

Wednesday 12th August 2015
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Intermediate seems to be the worst if I'm honest, all the other sessions run like clockwork at the last few I've been at. Come intermediates and its ever fking session, twice sometimes.

I'm done, I'm moving up for that reason alone.

George29

14,708 posts

166 months

Wednesday 12th August 2015
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LoonR1 said:
It's on the Pirelli bridge at Clay Hill. There may be several though.
There are a few spots and they change the position of them for each track day apparently. To try and stop people knowing where they are and short shifting to avoid it.

LoonR1

26,988 posts

179 months

Wednesday 12th August 2015
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George29 said:
LoonR1 said:
It's on the Pirelli bridge at Clay Hill. There may be several though.
There are a few spots and they change the position of them for each track day apparently. To try and stop people knowing where they are and short shifting to avoid it.
Bugger.

I've not tripped it yet but I did ask a Marshall where they were and he knowingly "couldn't confirm anything" wink wink, say no more, after I suggested the two locations mentioned earlier.