POLITE - Hi-Vis Vest
Discussion
Prof Prolapse said:
I want CUNext Tuesday.
Or you could have Berk for short. I never realised when I was young that when my dad muttered "berk" under his breath about another road user that it was cockney rhyming slang for Berkshire Hunt. Come to think of it, I'm not sure if he knew either.Watching Road Wars etc etc, there're some drivers who don't notice fully stickered up police vehicles with their blue lights flashing and sirens going full scream.
In the face of that, I suspect it makes less than zero difference what is written on your hi-viz.
(My hi-viz vest is plain and reserved for foggy days)
In the face of that, I suspect it makes less than zero difference what is written on your hi-viz.
(My hi-viz vest is plain and reserved for foggy days)
defblade said:
Watching Road Wars etc etc, there're some drivers who don't notice fully stickered up police vehicles with their blue lights flashing and sirens going full scream.
In the face of that, I suspect it makes less than zero difference what is written on your hi-viz.
(My hi-viz vest is plain and reserved for foggy days)
you notice the biker long before you notice what is written on his vest so that "makes me more noticeable" excuse is twaddle. In the face of that, I suspect it makes less than zero difference what is written on your hi-viz.
(My hi-viz vest is plain and reserved for foggy days)
Or maybe it's meant in a different context as it does make them more noticeable as being a tool.
McClure said:
defblade said:
Watching Road Wars etc etc, there're some drivers who don't notice fully stickered up police vehicles with their blue lights flashing and sirens going full scream.
In the face of that, I suspect it makes less than zero difference what is written on your hi-viz.
(My hi-viz vest is plain and reserved for foggy days)
you notice the biker long before you notice what is written on his vest so that "makes me more noticeable" excuse is twaddle. In the face of that, I suspect it makes less than zero difference what is written on your hi-viz.
(My hi-viz vest is plain and reserved for foggy days)
Or maybe it's meant in a different context as it does make them more noticeable as being a tool.
black-k1 said:
Whether it makes you more noticeable or not would have to be tested using reliable scientific methods and I know that has not been done (vs non POLITE floro vests). Even if you we to use anecdotal evidence you’d need to talk to people who have tried both with and without the POLITE vest as they are the only ones who can do a comparison. Assuming people continue to wear such vests for more than just a few journeys then the anecdotal evidence would suggest they work!
As I said before, I have a police surplus hi-viz jacket (not vest), except that it is blank on the back where a copper's jacket would say POLICE. I've also got a Pan European, black pants and a white helmet. I don't wear the jacket that often. Usually on long motorway journeys when I think a bit of hi-viz won't go astray or when it is raining hard or it's cold, since its also wind/waterproof.
But anyway, based on my non-scientific study, I think it may make either a small difference or no difference.
IMHO what makes a bigger difference is good road positioning and a big bike with large twin headlights doesn't hurt either.
Crossflow Kid said:
Bit too much.
Well most bike pants are black.White helmets are:
- cheaper
- more readily available
- more visible (next time you happen to have a biker with a white helmet and black helmet in the distance in front of you, notice the difference)
Only a gormless mong brained freak would think I was a copper even with the jacket. My "slightly loose" interpretation of the national speed limit should be a clue
Do the Police ride motorbikes much these days?
Don't see as many about as in the 60s/70s.........Triumph 650cc single carb saints......
Speaking of Police bikes, used to love this:-
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Z6qNs4GIs94
Don't see as many about as in the 60s/70s.........Triumph 650cc single carb saints......
Speaking of Police bikes, used to love this:-
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Z6qNs4GIs94
creampuff said:
black-k1 said:
Whether it makes you more noticeable or not would have to be tested using reliable scientific methods and I know that has not been done (vs non POLITE floro vests). Even if you we to use anecdotal evidence you’d need to talk to people who have tried both with and without the POLITE vest as they are the only ones who can do a comparison. Assuming people continue to wear such vests for more than just a few journeys then the anecdotal evidence would suggest they work!
As I said before, I have a police surplus hi-viz jacket (not vest), except that it is blank on the back where a copper's jacket would say POLICE. I've also got a Pan European, black pants and a white helmet. I don't wear the jacket that often. Usually on long motorway journeys when I think a bit of hi-viz won't go astray or when it is raining hard or it's cold, since its also wind/waterproof.
But anyway, based on my non-scientific study, I think it may make either a small difference or no difference.
IMHO what makes a bigger difference is good road positioning and a big bike with large twin headlights doesn't hurt either.
Having said that, I used to (many years ago) have a bike with a white fairing (remember Rickman?) and the traffic would part for me like the Red Sea for Moses. It definitely enabled faster progress in traffic than when on a bike without a big white fairing.
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