When people jump red lights
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k me those adventure bikes do not crash cheaply.Rawwr said:
RemyMartin81D said:
Can always be worse.
Get well soon.
I must admit, I did think of you when I was on the way to the hospital. Hope you're doing well.Get well soon.
Just look at the poor sod who was wiped out by the yank. Can always be worse. You'll mend and get new stuff out of it. Person who did it needs quite punitive measures against them. Jumping a red and hitting someone should be an automatic driving ban IMO.
as much as i hate it, i'm starting to think every set of traffic lights should have a camera.
in the last few days i have seen someone stopped at a red light decide to go about 10 seconds before it turned green, and a few people going through them a good couple of seconds after, even in biblical rain.
i hate the nanny state, but even up here its starting to get silly
in the last few days i have seen someone stopped at a red light decide to go about 10 seconds before it turned green, and a few people going through them a good couple of seconds after, even in biblical rain.
i hate the nanny state, but even up here its starting to get silly
pessimal said:
as much as i hate it, i'm starting to think every set of traffic lights should have a camera.
in the last few days i have seen someone stopped at a red light decide to go about 10 seconds before it turned green, and a few people going through them a good couple of seconds after, even in biblical rain.
i hate the nanny state, but even up here its starting to get silly
Totally agree, it's the only way to stop it.in the last few days i have seen someone stopped at a red light decide to go about 10 seconds before it turned green, and a few people going through them a good couple of seconds after, even in biblical rain.
i hate the nanny state, but even up here its starting to get silly
RemyMartin81D said:
I should also point out if it was me in your situation, I'd be plotting how I'd murder the person who did it lol.
I'll be doing whatever I can to make his life as hard as possible. It was the fact he watched an Eddie Stobart lorry jump the red and nearly hit me and then decided he'd follow anyway that I find particularly irksome. To me, that's a conscious decision to do the wrong thing and disregard the consequences. I have a full interview with the police on Saturday morning but I've already heard mention of Causing Injury by Dangerous Driving mentioned, which I believe is a pretty serious offence. Rawwr said:
RemyMartin81D said:
I should also point out if it was me in your situation, I'd be plotting how I'd murder the person who did it lol.
I'll be doing whatever I can to make his life as hard as possible. It was the fact he watched an Eddie Stobart lorry jump the red and nearly hit me and then decided he'd follow anyway that I find particularly irksome. To me, that's a conscious decision to do the wrong thing and disregard the consequences. I have a full interview with the police on Saturday morning but I've already heard mention of Causing Injury by Dangerous Driving mentioned, which I believe is a pretty serious offence. Just had a phone call from the police. They think they're going to put forward prosecution for due care and attention and send him on a driver awareness course. Yes, his punishment for knowingly driving through a red light in rush hour, 5-10 seconds after it turned red and hitting someone, leaving them in agony, unable to walk and unable to attend work is most likely going to have to be to pay £100 and sit in a classroom for a few hours.
We are not amused.
We are not amused.
Rawwr said:
Just had a phone call from the police. They think they're going to put forward prosecution for due care and attention and send him on a driver awareness course. Yes, his punishment for knowingly driving through a red light in rush hour, 5-10 seconds after it turned red and hitting someone, leaving them in agony, unable to walk and unable to attend work is most likely going to have to be to pay £100 and sit in a classroom for a few hours.
We are not amused.
Are they saying they haven't got the evidence to prosecute for failing to stop at a red light?We are not amused.
A driver awareness course is a proper cop out, for that scenario.. You could have been killed FFS....
Well hopefully a successful prosecution will give more than the standard 3 points and fine etc...usually when personal injury involved it would bump it up a bit from the default.
https://www.ringroselaw.co.uk/personal-law/crimina...
https://www.ringroselaw.co.uk/personal-law/crimina...
Rawwr said:
Trevor555 said:
Are they saying they haven't got the evidence to prosecute for failing to stop at a red light?
A driver awareness course is a proper cop out, for that scenario.. You could have been killed FFS....
Oh, they have the evidence. Just being useless.A driver awareness course is a proper cop out, for that scenario.. You could have been killed FFS....
Sounds to me like he/she's testing the water to see if you'll accept this as it's much less paperwork/effort for the officer.
I know the Police are stretched, but it sounds like they just don't want to do the process.
Be firm and tell them you want a prosecution for a least jumping the red light. That offence code doesn't go down well with insurers I think... Anyone?
Rawwr said:
£2,746.12 to get the Africa Twin back together.
£2,514.79 to replace my damaged clothing/helmet.
Please don't get me wrong with what am I about to put and this purely a word of warning rather than to scare you. £2,514.79 to replace my damaged clothing/helmet.
But please don't close off your claim too early, a friend of mine had a similar accident and to his dismay their lower leg took far too long to heal with continued nerve pain. It turned out he had some internal degloving and as a result this was pressing on the nerves, after 6 months they only found this out after being badgered to do a MRI scan.
Even after the op, and 5 years later, he still has a degree of nerve pain. Mind you he has it sussed, when he needs to go anywhere [pub] he plays the pain card and gets driven everywhere. His wife is an absolute saint.
Trevor555 said:
Rawwr said:
Trevor555 said:
Are they saying they haven't got the evidence to prosecute for failing to stop at a red light?
A driver awareness course is a proper cop out, for that scenario.. You could have been killed FFS....
Oh, they have the evidence. Just being useless.A driver awareness course is a proper cop out, for that scenario.. You could have been killed FFS....
Sounds to me like he/she's testing the water to see if you'll accept this as it's much less paperwork/effort for the officer.
I know the Police are stretched, but it sounds like they just don't want to do the process.
Be firm and tell them you want a prosecution for a least jumping the red light. That offence code doesn't go down well with insurers I think... Anyone?
bogie said:
I thought it was the CPS who decide to prosecute and the Police just do investigation, provide the facts, statements etc. So perhaps the Police cannot say they will 100% prosecute until the CPS have reviewed the evidence and decided to proceed. Likely just a procedural thing and it does seem the facts and evidence would make it an easy win for the CPS.
Yes.The officer does the process/paperwork and it then goes to the CPS who'll decide whether or not to go forward.
Which is why I say the OP has to ask the officer dealing "do you have the evidence to prosecute for a fail to stop"?
If they have, then OP should insist they prosecute.
It's an injury RTC, down to driver going through a red light. That's quite serious...
I'd like to hear a current officers view on this, anyone on here?
I left the job 11 years ago.
Edited by Trevor555 on Sunday 13th October 11:26
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