The friendly "dumb" bike questions thread

[Rubin215]

HybridTheory said:

Anyone have any tips for what seems like RSI? My right hand ligaments on the outside of my arm from my wrist upwards seem really sore these days, can only put it down to being my throttle hand..any tips on making it less sore !

Try also starting off with your hand rotated slightly forward so that as you open the throttle, your hand/wrist position becomes a straight line with your forearm.

Amazing how many people ride with their wrist slightly bent.

[HybridTheory]

Thanks will give it a try. Currently have a few days off work and a bit water bottle helps!

[patchb]

Opinions appreciated please...

I've had my 2009 Tuono 1000r for 8 years, many bikes have sat alongside it over those years but the T has never gone anywhere and never been put up for sale seriously - I bloody love the thing!

I've long had a hankering for a tuono 1100 factory, and today went and looked at 2 identical 2019 models that have pretty much the same miles and up for the same price at local dealers.
I've talked figures with the dealer with the bike that has a few miles less and slightly cleaner (but less desirable bits) and they've given me a px figure that I'd be happy enough with to save the hassle of private selling in the winter.

I guess my stupid question is - should I sell my bike I know and love so much for something I desire so much or will I regret it?!
Unfortunately I can't have it alongside as it's already got a ZX7R and Transalp as stablemates and running out of space!
I know the V4 is a better bike in every way but the old 1000 V twin has kept me happy for so long, I'm still not bored of it and it's been utterly bulletproof so I'm torn.

I'm 32 in January, had loads of supersport bikes and classic superbikes but never a modern superbike so I'm also torn as to whether the RSV4 is an itch I should scratch now as well....

[trickywoo]

patchb said:

Opinions appreciated please...

I’d keep the Tuono or get a Gen 3 Super Duke which is closer in spirit to the v2 you love. The v4 Tuono is a lot more like a super bike with flat bars.

I’d also say bikes haven’t come on that much for use on the road that you’ll be blown away by the improvement. I’ve always moved on because the bike I have has become too uncomfortable or just doesn’t suit how I want to use it. Or I’m just bored of it.

If you still love your Tuono I’d keep it unless you can wangle a long test ride on the v4 and really like it. If the money is significant to you that’s also a factor as the v4 could well depreciate the total value of your v2 over a couple of years.

You’ve got age on your side to make the change when you really want to.

[carinaman]

"Sell benefits, not features". The benefits to you in trading in the V2 Tuono you love are?

[A500leroy]

patchb said:

Opinions appreciated please...

I've had my 2009 Tuono 1000r for 8 years, many bikes have sat alongside it over those years but the T has never gone anywhere and never been put up for sale seriously - I bloody love the thing!

I've long had a hankering for a tuono 1100 factory, and today went and looked at 2 identical 2019 models that have pretty much the same miles and up for the same price at local dealers.
I've talked figures with the dealer with the bike that has a few miles less and slightly cleaner (but less desirable bits) and they've given me a px figure that I'd be happy enough with to save the hassle of private selling in the winter.

I guess my stupid question is - should I sell my bike I know and love so much for something I desire so much or will I regret it?!
Unfortunately I can't have it alongside as it's already got a ZX7R and Transalp as stablemates and running out of space!
I know the V4 is a better bike in every way but the old 1000 V twin has kept me happy for so long, I'm still not bored of it and it's been utterly bulletproof so I'm torn.

I'm 32 in January, had loads of supersport bikes and classic superbikes but never a modern superbike so I'm also torn as to whether the RSV4 is an itch I should scratch now as well....

Do you need the Trans? Sell that?

[Speed addicted]

patchb said:

Opinions appreciated please...

Having sold my 1050 speed triple some years ago to get a more sensible tiger for touring I’d say think long and hard about it.
The day I traded mine in I knew I’d made a mistake!

[Hugo Stiglitz]

brockovrs said:

Now the shock of passing my mod 2 has worn off, I've started properly looking at getting my first bike and I'm seeing quite a few advertised with no service history.

Is that normal for bikes, or does this mean I'll have to up my budget a bit?

Typically the bikes I'm looking at have done less than 10k miles, and are from 2016/2017, so I would have expected them to have had some servicing done (and at least have some receipts to prove it!)

Also, has anyone had a good experience with superbike factory? Their adverts seem to be about 70% of the autotrader results but after a quick google it seems they're best avoided.

I've self serviced a bike- I stapled the oil, filter etc receipt to the A4 list invoice and added a note in the service book.

That's how I'd expect to buy a self serviced bike from someone.

Alot of bikes need valve clearances checked. Personally I'd prefer a bike where the previous owner has spent money doing this at a garage so I don't have to spend or worry.

I wouldn't be paying book price for a self serviced bike.

I wouldn't buy from superbike factory after speaking to someone who worked there. I always aim to buy from private sellers so I can gauge them etc. I beleive buy into the person first then the bike.

[patchb]

A500leroy said:

Do you need the Trans? Sell that?

The transalp gets used for green laning and general use when the weather is a bit crap but I still want to ride so that'll be staying. The 7R is staying for the time being although I'm debating changing that for a 2004/05 fireblade but that spot will always be occupied by a sportsbike.

After a lot of thinking, research etc I think I'm going to make the change. Much as I love my V twin T I need to try a V4. I was thinking about my car history and other than my S2000 and Evo, the only reason I regret selling other cars is due to the money they demand going up massively, this isn't going to happen with gen 2 tuonos! I may regret it but it just means when it's time for the V4 to move on I'll have to try something else instead! Variety is the spice of life and all that...

[airsafari87]

patchb said:

The transalp gets used for green laning and general use when the weather is a bit crap but I still want to ride so that'll be staying. The 7R is staying for the time being although I'm debating changing that for a 2004/05 fireblade but that spot will always be occupied by a sportsbike.

After a lot of thinking, research etc I think I'm going to make the change. Much as I love my V twin T I need to try a V4. I was thinking about my car history and other than my S2000 and Evo, the only reason I regret selling other cars is due to the money they demand going up massively, this isn't going to happen with gen 2 tuonos! I may regret it but it just means when it's time for the V4 to move on I'll have to try something else instead! Variety is the spice of life and all that...

Any regrets you may have after selling the V2 will disappear the moment you wind that V4 on for the 1st time.

[Biker 1]

There have been various posts regarding the pros & cons of keeping a bike in your living room over winter. The consensus seems to be nope, as petrol vapour could ignite, causing catastrophic damage. So how do multi franchise bike dealership showrooms not go up in flames?? I would have thought that the extract ventilation system would need to be so powerful as to be audible & there would be a constant draught...

[KTMsm]

Lots of things could happen

I've got a log burner in my garage along with 10 bikes

I'm still alive

[Biker's Nemesis]

I kept my RD 500 in the hallway of my flat back in the 1980's, no problems at all.

[Bob_Defly]

Biker 1 said:

There have been various posts regarding the pros & cons of keeping a bike in your living room over winter. The consensus seems to be nope, as petrol vapour could ignite, causing catastrophic damage. So how do multi franchise bike dealership showrooms not go up in flames?? I would have thought that the extract ventilation system would need to be so powerful as to be audible & there would be a constant draught...

I don't think petrol vapour is the issue, it's the fact that if you have a small house fire the fuel/oil/tyres will create an environment you might not escape from. That's why fire regs regarding house/garage separation exist.

[nute]

The only downside I can see of keeping my bike indoors is the constant moaning and objections from my other half.

It's not going to be any more likely to spontaneously burst into flames in my house than it is in the garage. Id check my insurance policy wording tho ...

[Biker 1]

I suppose the question is why would you have a house fire in the first place?
Aside from a chip pan fire, what are the other risks? I have a modern open plan place with a wood burner & gas hob.
Showrooms keep bikes indoors, so why not do the same?

[KTMsm]

Me - probably the same reason I had a car fire

Bloody mice eating the wiring

[Rubin215]

Biker 1 said:

I suppose the question is why would you have a house fire in the first place?
Aside from a chip pan fire, what are the other risks? I have a modern open plan place with a wood burner & gas hob.
Showrooms keep bikes indoors, so why not do the same?

Cooking, electrical fault or 'smokers materials' (including candles and open fires) are the three causes of fires in the home.

Your bike itself is highly unlikely to be the seat of the fire unless you have it hooked up to a charger, the issue is the huge amount of fuel it represents through plastics, tyres, oil and petrol should it become involved.

Fire deaths are generally caused by smoke inhalation, either carbon monoxide or the other toxins it contains.
Smoke is also highly flammable.

You've probably seen at least one tyre burning on a bonfire somewhere; think about the volume of smoke it produced but then imagine it contained in your house.

Personally, having spent 30 years in the fire service, I wouldn't keep a motorbike in the house unless it is in the garage.

[Biker 1]

A pretty emphatic & sobering reply!!!
My own experience included a flambéed beef stroganoff featuring a fireball that almost ignited the entire kitchen. I may have been over zealous with the brandy....
I have since purchased a fire blanket & water mist fire extinguisher which is apparently good for all types of fire.

[KTMsm]

Rubin215 said:

You've probably seen at least one tyre burning on a bonfire somewhere; think about the volume of smoke it produced but then imagine it contained in your house.

Whereas the sofa, carpets, curtains etc don't make any toxic smoke



Although I agree I'd rather keep bikes in the garage as they're for riding not looking at IMO

But if I didn't have a garage...