Who has purchased a new Africa Twin?
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supercommuter said:
I love the black scheme, it is the best colour. I have a dark Mivv carbon can coming, black crash bars, black spots on route. Have a Black screen fitted as well, love it.
I’ve got black Remus coming, black crash bars, black Mra screen , want spots but not sure what to get, what are you getting?
Andybow said:
supercommuter said:
I love the black scheme, it is the best colour. I have a dark Mivv carbon can coming, black crash bars, black spots on route. Have a Black screen fitted as well, love it.
I’ve got black Remus coming, black crash bars, black Mra screen , want spots but not sure what to get, what are you getting?I just wanted to let you all know that despite being told by two honda dealerships including John Banks and Fowlers Bristol, I have just been told that if you do not have your bike serviced by Honda you are invalidating your warranty.
I am not happy at all as I now have an expensive bike sat there with a complicated gearbox with no Warranty.
It was news to John Banks and they are discussing with regional honda and going to get back to me.
ETA: 1800 miles in
I am not happy at all as I now have an expensive bike sat there with a complicated gearbox with no Warranty.
It was news to John Banks and they are discussing with regional honda and going to get back to me.
ETA: 1800 miles in
supercommuter said:
I just wanted to let you all know that despite being told by two honda dealerships including John Banks and Fowlers Bristol, I have just been told that if you do not have your bike serviced by Honda you are invalidating your warranty.
I am not happy at all as I now have an expensive bike sat there with a complicated gearbox with no Warranty.
It was news to John Banks and they are discussing with regional honda and going to get back to me.
ETA: 1800 miles in
They're talking sh*t. You're covered. The only stipulation for warranty is that genuine Honda parts are used. That's all.I am not happy at all as I now have an expensive bike sat there with a complicated gearbox with no Warranty.
It was news to John Banks and they are discussing with regional honda and going to get back to me.
ETA: 1800 miles in
Rawwr said:
supercommuter said:
I just wanted to let you all know that despite being told by two honda dealerships including John Banks and Fowlers Bristol, I have just been told that if you do not have your bike serviced by Honda you are invalidating your warranty.
I am not happy at all as I now have an expensive bike sat there with a complicated gearbox with no Warranty.
It was news to John Banks and they are discussing with regional honda and going to get back to me.
ETA: 1800 miles in
They're talking sh*t. You're covered. The only stipulation for warranty is that genuine Honda parts are used. That's all.I am not happy at all as I now have an expensive bike sat there with a complicated gearbox with no Warranty.
It was news to John Banks and they are discussing with regional honda and going to get back to me.
ETA: 1800 miles in
Just read the T&C's mate. Does say in there it is not covered if you don't use a dealership.
I didn't have this problem on warranty issues on my last bike. So I am not sure why they are saying this now.
Just for the sake of clarity:
The vehicle warranty, supplied by Honda, will cover you for two years providing the services have taken place according to the schedule and used the correct, specified parts. That's just the law. No discussion.
However, the terms of a PCP/PCH agreement can dictate where you have to get the vehicle serviced because there is a value attached to getting dealer servicing.
So if your gearbox sh*ts itself, Honda will have to honour the warranty but Honda Finance may be a little upset with you at the end of term. The reality is, of course, they most likely won't give a sh*t.
The vehicle warranty, supplied by Honda, will cover you for two years providing the services have taken place according to the schedule and used the correct, specified parts. That's just the law. No discussion.
However, the terms of a PCP/PCH agreement can dictate where you have to get the vehicle serviced because there is a value attached to getting dealer servicing.
So if your gearbox sh*ts itself, Honda will have to honour the warranty but Honda Finance may be a little upset with you at the end of term. The reality is, of course, they most likely won't give a sh*t.
Rawwr said:
Just for the sake of clarity:
The vehicle warranty, supplied by Honda, will cover you for two years providing the services have taken place according to the schedule and used the correct, specified parts. That's just the law. No discussion.
However, the terms of a PCP/PCH agreement can dictate where you have to get the vehicle serviced because there is a value attached to getting dealer servicing.
So if your gearbox sh*ts itself, Honda will have to honour the warranty but Honda Finance may be a little upset with you at the end of term. The reality is, of course, they most likely won't give a sh*t.
Ok thanks.The vehicle warranty, supplied by Honda, will cover you for two years providing the services have taken place according to the schedule and used the correct, specified parts. That's just the law. No discussion.
However, the terms of a PCP/PCH agreement can dictate where you have to get the vehicle serviced because there is a value attached to getting dealer servicing.
So if your gearbox sh*ts itself, Honda will have to honour the warranty but Honda Finance may be a little upset with you at the end of term. The reality is, of course, they most likely won't give a sh*t.
I don't give a s
t about the pcp as I will be over the 3 year mileage limit by January. Just want to make sure it doesn't die on me 
I don't know who told you it needed to be serviced at Honda but I just happened to have re-read my paperwork from Honda this morning, and it isn't true it will adversely affect waranty or value if you service elsewhere as long as you can demonstrate it was still as per manufacturer requirements. Based solely on my contract, I'd be reasonably confident you could pursue legal action if they claimed you have devalued your bike by using someone else.
Prof Prolapse said:
I don't know who told you it needed to be serviced at Honda but I just happened to have re-read my paperwork from Honda this morning, and it isn't true it will adversely affect waranty or value if you service elsewhere as long as you can demonstrate it was still as per manufacturer requirements. Based solely on my contract, I'd be reasonably confident you could pursue legal action if they claimed you have devalued your bike by using someone else.
The service manager at John banks said it to me on the phone yesterday. I am confident they will repair any issues in the first 2 years. But was after the three years which they advised me not to get.I think you need to differentiate between the law and the reality of 2nd hand values. A bike or car that’s got a book full of main dealer stamps is worth more than one that’s independents or diy. Just market forces at work. As I posted earlier it doesn’t invalidate your warranty thx to EU law but to a 2nd hand buyer it’s worth less. The parts, oil etc are clearly the same , the only reason anyone pays higher labour rates is to protect residuals.
squirdan said:
I think you need to differentiate between the law and the reality of 2nd hand values. A bike or car that’s got a book full of main dealer stamps is worth more than one that’s independents or diy. Just market forces at work. As I posted earlier it doesn’t invalidate your warranty thx to EU law but to a 2nd hand buyer it’s worth less. The parts, oil etc are clearly the same , the only reason anyone pays higher labour rates is to protect residuals.
Definitely. It's always worth what someone will pay, but I thought we were discussing in the context of the contractually guaranteed value and what affects it. Not market forces.In other words if they're going to say you're not eligible for the "guaranteed minimumvalue", as you're out of contract for using an indy, this would need to be clearly stated. Which it isn't.
Obviously if you want to try and get more thab this value, staying main dealer may make sense.
Prof Prolapse said:
squirdan said:
I think you need to differentiate between the law and the reality of 2nd hand values. A bike or car that’s got a book full of main dealer stamps is worth more than one that’s independents or diy. Just market forces at work. As I posted earlier it doesn’t invalidate your warranty thx to EU law but to a 2nd hand buyer it’s worth less. The parts, oil etc are clearly the same , the only reason anyone pays higher labour rates is to protect residuals.
Definitely. It's always worth what someone will pay, but I thought we were discussing in the context of the contractually guaranteed value and what affects it. Not market forces.In other words if they're going to say you're not eligible for the "guaranteed minimumvalue", as you're out of contract for using an indy, this would need to be clearly stated. Which it isn't.
Obviously if you want to try and get more thab this value, staying main dealer may make sense.
I was just concerned that if the gearbox s
ts itself next year on 40k miles Honda are going to try and wriggle out of it. Sounds like they can't Gassing Station | Biker Banter | Top of Page | What's New | My Stuff