WSBK 2024

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Drabbesttunic

1,280 posts

42 months

Monday 20th November 2023
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slopes said:
Brad Ray confirmed as re-signed to MotoXRacing for 2024 and doing the full season

Edited by slopes on Monday 20th November 14:43
Ah good stuff, hope he does ok.

slopes

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38,944 posts

189 months

Tuesday 21st November 2023
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Drabbesttunic said:
slopes said:
Brad Ray confirmed as re-signed to MotoXRacing for 2024 and doing the full season

Edited by slopes on Monday 20th November 14:43
Ah good stuff, hope he does ok.
Yep be good to see him do the full season and have a good season too. He's not gonna set the world on fire just yet but as long as he builds on last season and improves, he will be heading in the right direction.

FredericRobinson

3,801 posts

234 months

Wednesday 22nd November 2023
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Donington tickets for next year have gone on sale, anyone wanting a trackside camping pitch will need to be quick

TwinKam

3,025 posts

97 months

Wednesday 22nd November 2023
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FredericRobinson said:
Donington tickets for next year have gone on sale, anyone wanting a trackside camping pitch will need to be quick a boat.
FTFY

Abdul Abulbul Amir

13,179 posts

214 months

Wednesday 22nd November 2023
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FredericRobinson said:
Donington tickets for next year have gone on sale, anyone wanting a trackside camping pitch will need to be quick
Not that quick, last year when I booked mine they all sold out within five minutes. When I looked earlier they had 90% of the top level pitches left. First indicator of reduced fan interest and or budgets?

Normodog

229 posts

42 months

Wednesday 22nd November 2023
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We went for the weekend at donington wsbk this year.

It really doesn't compare to bsb for trackside spectating, quite a sparse race programme in comparison.


FredericRobinson

3,801 posts

234 months

Wednesday 22nd November 2023
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Abdul Abulbul Amir said:
Not that quick, last year when I booked mine they all sold out within five minutes. When I looked earlier they had 90% of the top level pitches left. First indicator of reduced fan interest and or budgets?
There’s only 3 or 4 trackside zone b pitches left, a few more of the zone A but they’re silly money

Rob 131 Sport

2,596 posts

54 months

Wednesday 22nd November 2023
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I went to WSBkK a lot in the 90’s and i to the 00’s and last went in 2015.

I should really make the effort and go next year. However, I seem to of got into this motorcycle racing rut of only attending the 2 BSB rounds at Oulton Park and a week at the TT.

Mortgage_tom

1,313 posts

228 months

Sunday 3rd December 2023
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Tam_Mullen

2,319 posts

174 months

Friday 8th December 2023
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According to Josh Close (MCN reporter) on Twitter Sylvain Guintoli and Bradley Smith have joined BMW as part of their new test team.

It seems they are going to be taking things quite seriously! I wouldn't wonder this was all part of the promises made to Toprak to make him believe and jump ship.

trevalvole

1,069 posts

35 months

Friday 12th January
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slopes said:
The Maniac confirmed at Go Eleven for 2024, that ought to give a few riders sleepless nights and will add some spice to things next year
I didn't quite click that you meant Iannone! With Sam Lowes, Tito Rabat, Dominique Aegerter and Scott Redding too, it is getting to be a bit of a MotoGP minor classes reunion. Whether any of them can keep up with the power to weight ratio of Bautista on a Ducati remains to be seen.

graeme4130

3,850 posts

183 months

Friday 12th January
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trevalvole said:
slopes said:
The Maniac confirmed at Go Eleven for 2024, that ought to give a few riders sleepless nights and will add some spice to things next year
I didn't quite click that you meant Iannone! With Sam Lowes, Tito Rabat, Dominique Aegerter and Scott Redding too, it is getting to be a bit of a MotoGP minor classes reunion. Whether any of them can keep up with the power to weight ratio of Bautista on a Ducati remains to be seen.
Tito will be so far behind the others in that list, he may as well be in a different race

I expect we'll see Nicolò Bulega up there this year too, but I doubt very much if Toprak will be in the mix, certainly not in the first half of the season anyway and I can't see Redding doing any more with the Benovo team than he did on the factory effort
Hopefully JR is back up the front again


Zarco

18,022 posts

211 months

Friday 12th January
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I'm most excited about Sam Lowes out of that lot.

Great to see The Maniac back in competition too.

flatlandsman

764 posts

9 months

Friday 12th January
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Redding has already been quoted as saying Toprak has already found things he can't on the BMW, so I doubt he is going to set the world alight, Toprak is a very special rider and I think Rea's form this year and Toprak's on that bike might be a surprise for a lot of people. He should have been in the GP paddock years ago sadly his manager got burned in GP's and seems think SBK is better.

We will see of course.

graeme4130

3,850 posts

183 months

Saturday 13th January
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flatlandsman said:
Redding has already been quoted as saying Toprak has already found things he can't on the BMW, so I doubt he is going to set the world alight, Toprak is a very special rider and I think Rea's form this year and Toprak's on that bike might be a surprise for a lot of people. He should have been in the GP paddock years ago sadly his manager got burned in GP's and seems think SBK is better.

We will see of course.
That's not technically true
Toprak had a test of the Yamaha towards the end of last season, and just wasn't fast enough
His style is very out of shape, and getting the bike to do things other riders can't. That style doesn't work on a GP bike
He's an unreal talent, so I'm sure could adapt, but potentially wasn't prepared to put a poor season in to start with to get up to speed on a GP bike
Also, he's probably too tall for a GP bike too

flatlandsman

764 posts

9 months

Saturday 13th January
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My point was that for that sort of talent you would make an exception, in time he would adapt, the best riders do, and he would too, I don't think he is too tall, tall can be an advantage but it would take a manufacturer time to develop a bike to suit him, if he went to say Aprilia and they put him into a 5 year deal and said we will make this bike about YOU and you alone, they would work at making him fit the bike build it around his style.

Sadly these days the identikit GP riders is always round the corner, Dorna has a constant supply of them rolling up so no manufacturers would take the risk sadly. I do believe he has the talent to win GP's, but I doubt we will ever know.

You may be right about his style never working on a GP bike but do you not think he could adjust? The very best usually do or can. I just feel it would be amazing to have him there, he could really shake up the order.

trevalvole

1,069 posts

35 months

Saturday 13th January
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graeme4130 said:
Toprak had a test of the Yamaha towards the end of last season, and just wasn't fast enough
His style is very out of shape, and getting the bike to do things other riders can't. That style doesn't work on a GP bike
Perhaps his style particularly didn't work on the short-of-power, high-corner-speed Yamaha GP bike? May be he would have done better on one of the V4s?

slopes

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38,944 posts

189 months

Saturday 13th January
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graeme4130 said:
trevalvole said:
slopes said:
The Maniac confirmed at Go Eleven for 2024, that ought to give a few riders sleepless nights and will add some spice to things next year
I didn't quite click that you meant Iannone! With Sam Lowes, Tito Rabat, Dominique Aegerter and Scott Redding too, it is getting to be a bit of a MotoGP minor classes reunion. Whether any of them can keep up with the power to weight ratio of Bautista on a Ducati remains to be seen.
Tito will be so far behind the others in that list, he may as well be in a different race

I expect we'll see Nicolò Bulega up there this year too, but I doubt very much if Toprak will be in the mix, certainly not in the first half of the season anyway and I can't see Redding doing any more with the Benovo team than he did on the factory effort
Hopefully JR is back up the front again
I think Toprak and JR will be fighting over the podium spots with Bulega occasionally in the mix, Lowes and Iannone to keep them all honest.
I see it being Bautista's year again but Toprak is going to make that BMW do what nobody else has been able to do in WSBK.

graeme4130

3,850 posts

183 months

Sunday 14th January
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slopes said:
graeme4130 said:
trevalvole said:
slopes said:
The Maniac confirmed at Go Eleven for 2024, that ought to give a few riders sleepless nights and will add some spice to things next year
I didn't quite click that you meant Iannone! With Sam Lowes, Tito Rabat, Dominique Aegerter and Scott Redding too, it is getting to be a bit of a MotoGP minor classes reunion. Whether any of them can keep up with the power to weight ratio of Bautista on a Ducati remains to be seen.
Tito will be so far behind the others in that list, he may as well be in a different race

I expect we'll see Nicolò Bulega up there this year too, but I doubt very much if Toprak will be in the mix, certainly not in the first half of the season anyway and I can't see Redding doing any more with the Benovo team than he did on the factory effort
Hopefully JR is back up the front again
I think Toprak and JR will be fighting over the podium spots with Bulega occasionally in the mix, Lowes and Iannone to keep them all honest.
I see it being Bautista's year again but Toprak is going to make that BMW do what nobody else has been able to do in WSBK.
I'm not sure even Toprak is going to make that BMW work, unless they change something fundamental in that bike
I've heard he's really not happy, and has got himself a good legal team to try and worm his way out of the contract having ridden the bike now

slopes

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38,944 posts

189 months

Sunday 14th January
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Interesting if true but where would he go?
According to Van Der Mark, Redding and Gerloff, he is already ahead of them on the bike.