TT 2022

[PorkInsider]

The second bike through on that YT link I posted is Dean Harrison (I think?).

You can hear the traction control kicking in (popping as the ignition cuts). Not a hint of him backing off though, obviously.

[Zarco]

I think all the front runners are flat through there?

[PorkInsider]

Zarco said:

I think all the front runners are flat through there?

I believe so, yes, but I remember reading Hickman saying it takes him the full practice week to build up to flat in 6th through it.

[hepy]

wormus said:

rallycross said:

Is there more racing or is it finished for the year?

Last day was supposed to be Friday of race week, but spilled into Sat because of weather. So yes, it's all over for another year. I'll be back over for Southern 100 and MGP though.

If you have never seen it, the Southern 100 is worth a watch. Similar track, some of the same racers but a mass start. Shorter lap, but still incredibly exciting.

The BBC usually has some Irish Road racing on the Iplayer, try https://www.bbc.co.uk/iplayer/episodes/b00kj9xh/bi... .

[Turn7]

Welshbeef said:

rigga said:

184 was mentioned with that picture on FB.

Balls the size of spacehoppers.

Given he was in a situation the rear hanging out I’m guessing the only option then is Wide open throttle / pin it to get back in control whereas easing off the throttle would cause a possible high side and simply holding /trailing throttle would be risky too.
Basically too hot going in / utterly committed

Um, it’s not going in to hot, he is deliberately spinning the rear to help the bike turn…..

[Sidecar Man]

What its all about for me. 2 more added to the collection.

[airsafari87]

Sidecar Man said:

What its all about for me. 2 more added to the collection.

Huge respect to you man.

I hope they give you an enormous smile and goosebumps on your arms every time you walk past them.

[Welshbeef]

Sidecar Man said:

What its all about for me. 2 more added to the collection.

That’s a very good collection well done well earned.


Out of interest what’s your personal best lap time/average speed?

[Se7enheaven]

Sidecar Man said:

What its all about for me. 2 more added to the collection.

Fantastic achievement and huge respect.

[PorkInsider]

Sidecar Man said:

What its all about for me. 2 more added to the collection.

Many congratulations on your achievements. That's some collection!

I was watching out for your times/positions all the way through from quali to race 2.

[Rob 131 Sport]

Vickers_VC10 said:

the tribester said:

Welshbeef said:

Conversely have any TT winners moved to MOTO GP/other bike competitions and in those competitions been at the sharpe end of the racing pack/highly competitive or are road racers skills quite different to track racers?

Some bloke called Foggy did alright in World Super Bikes after his 26 TT starts.

Hizzy lapped Donnington faster on his heavier superbike than a grand Prix bike back in the day.

https://www.crash.net/bsb/news/2344/1/hizzy-gets-b...

Roger Burnett won the Senior TT in 1986 and went on to be a Factory Honda Rider in 500cc GP’s (previous to MOTOGP).

Moreover Rob McElnea won the 2 big races in 1984 and went on to be a Factory 500cc Rider for Yamaha, Suzuki and Honda.

[Jimmm]

Rob 131 Sport said:

Vickers_VC10 said:

the tribester said:

Welshbeef said:

Conversely have any TT winners moved to MOTO GP/other bike competitions and in those competitions been at the sharpe end of the racing pack/highly competitive or are road racers skills quite different to track racers?

Some bloke called Foggy did alright in World Super Bikes after his 26 TT starts.

Hizzy lapped Donnington faster on his heavier superbike than a grand Prix bike back in the day.

https://www.crash.net/bsb/news/2344/1/hizzy-gets-b...

Roger Burnett won the Senior TT in 1986 and went on to be a Factory Honda Rider in 500cc GP’s (previous to MOTOGP).

Moreover Rob McElnea won the 2 big races in 1984 and went on to be a Factory 500cc Rider for Yamaha, Suzuki and Honda.

Has anyone mentioned Agostini or Hailwood yet?

[PorkInsider]

Jimmm said:

Has anyone mentioned Agostini or Hailwood yet?

Or Haslam? Admittedly not an Agostini or Hailwood but he won at the TT and was a pretty successful factory GP rider in the 80s

[gareth_r]

Jimmm said:

Has anyone mentioned Agostini or Hailwood yet?

Or every GP rider until c.1970...

And the Mountain Circuit wasn't the only "road" course.

[Mr Tidy]

egor110 said:

Welshbeef said:

Lambo FirstBlood said:

Welshbeef said:

egor110 said:

Because they choose not to .

I wonder if their contracts prevent them from doing so - Or the purse for winning/taking part is below their expectations.

I suspect both. Rossi went there a few years ago as a spectator and said he wouldn’t do it for any money.

Conversely have any TT winners moved to MOTO GP/other bike competitions and in those competitions been at the sharpe end of the racing pack/highly competitive or are road racers skills quite different to track racers?

Probably brookes and hickman have done well in bsb and tt.

That's why I am a huge Hicky fan!

B*lls to the wall on the TT and some decent results in BSB.

Shame about Rossi's reluctance - proper Italian legends like Ago did the TT and circuits!

[five50]

Was Rob Mcelnea the last guy doing gp’s and also the TT?

[Sidecar Man]

Welshbeef said:

That’s a very good collection well done well earned.


Out of interest what’s your personal best lap time/average speed?

Best finish is 5th with 113.25mph average

[Davetheraver]

Welshbeef said:

So drifting a bike with a solid stone wall feet away….

Out of interest any idea of the possible speed he was doing at that point?

That is flat and has been since ballagarey and he will continue pinned throttle up over Crosby leap. Only the top boys keep it pinned on the big bikes, most of the rest back off a bit.

I would say 170 ish on the big bikes.

I know that bit of road pretty well, my house is just out of shot

[Rob 131 Sport]

five50 said:

Was Rob Mcelnea the last guy doing gp’s and also the TT?

No. Unless you count Foggy who was very successful at selected GP’s, it was Roger Burnett who won the Senior TT in 1986 and then went on to having a full time factory ride in GP’s with Rothmans Honda.

[rampageturke]

PorkInsider said:

For anyone that didn't try it, £14.99 for TT+ for the full 2 weeks was worth every penny in my opinion. They did a fantastic job providing live coverage of all qualifying, races, rider insights, etc., etc.

I thought they'd struggle to cover such a long course, over nearly 2 hours of racing in some cases, but they did it.

Still some teething issues that I hope they fix for next year, one big one being that commentary is always reacting to the same pictures we are, so there's a good second or so delay after the thing they are talking about has happened. Not good for live commentary. And the reporters/interviewers didn't really seem ready for live TV, but that will come with practice.

Also, a side note. I am both surprised and glad that we did not see a fatal accident live. Considering they had a lot of cameras and the live nature of the broadcast. Whether they had a mechanism in place to be able to stop that (such as delayed broadcasting) I don't know.