RE: MY2016 Triumph Bonnevilles: PH2
Discussion
Pothole said:
ash73 said:
I like the Street Twin the best, and the retro half fairing on the Thruxton, but why water cooled and fake carbs?
EMISIONSAs to the 'fake carbs', then not only don't I have a problem with that, I actually quite like it. I'd say it's more like throttle bodies 'in the style of a carb body' than outright fake. Bur then where do you stop with the 'fake' as opposed to 'in the style of'?
For example this is a DOHC motor, but the cam covers are clearly styled like rocker covers from the old pushrod motor. The triangular engine cover was originally that shape on a Triumph as there were two cams in there to drive off the crank - front and back of the block. They ain't there any more, so why not just put a different shaped cover on? There's a catalytic converter in there between the pipes - the pipes don't actually run directly from the ports to the silencers, they're fake too under/beside the motor. The real pipes go into and out of the catalytic converter. ...and so on. I think it's a very good tribute/'in the style of' effort.
tvrolet said:
Not so sure it's as simple as just 'EMISSIONS' [SP ], more possibly emissions for the power they want out the motor. The Indian Thunderstroke meets all current emissions out of an air cooled v-twin and makes 115ft/lb...but then that's out of 1800cc or so, so they're not exactly pushing the performance boundaries. So my betting would be air-cooked would have been fine for a 'soft' motor, but not something meant to be a bit sporty.
As to the 'fake carbs', then not only don't I have a problem with that, I actually quite like it. I'd say it's more like throttle bodies 'in the style of a carb body' that outright fake. Bur then where do you stop with the 'fake' as opposed to 'in the style of'?
For example this is a DOHC motor, but the cam covers are clearly styled like rocker covers from the old pushrod motor. The triangular engine cover was originally that shape on a Triumph as there were two cams in there to drive off the crank - front and back of the block. They ain't there any more, so why not just put a different shaped cover on? There's a catalytic converter in there between the pipes - the pipes don't actually run directly from the ports to the silencers, they're fake too under/beside the motor. The real pipes go into and out of the catalytic converter. ...and so on. I think it's a very good tribute/'in the style of' effort.
Good post, says it all really.As to the 'fake carbs', then not only don't I have a problem with that, I actually quite like it. I'd say it's more like throttle bodies 'in the style of a carb body' that outright fake. Bur then where do you stop with the 'fake' as opposed to 'in the style of'?
For example this is a DOHC motor, but the cam covers are clearly styled like rocker covers from the old pushrod motor. The triangular engine cover was originally that shape on a Triumph as there were two cams in there to drive off the crank - front and back of the block. They ain't there any more, so why not just put a different shaped cover on? There's a catalytic converter in there between the pipes - the pipes don't actually run directly from the ports to the silencers, they're fake too under/beside the motor. The real pipes go into and out of the catalytic converter. ...and so on. I think it's a very good tribute/'in the style of' effort.
Off topic. How are you liking your bike?
Wacky Racer said:
Good post, says it all really.
Off topic. How are you liking your bike?
Off topic - absolutely loving it still; I just can't fault it for what I wanted it for. I had (still have) a GPz1100 but I was using it less and less to the point where it's been SORNd for about 5 years now. I was getting less and less pleasure out of it year-by-year, and when I did use it, it was maybe for a 50 mile run on a nice day. There's probably 8000 miles on the Indian now, and I'm still making any excuse to get out on it - runs, tours, events, and even just up to the shops! And it won't be laid-up for winter (and it wasn't last winter either). It has totally transformed my love of biking to what it was maybe 30+ years ago! So now a 'run' is probably 200 miles plus; I've done 500+ miles in a day with just fuel stops, toured round the North of Scotland twice plus the inner Hebrides; done London and back (from Scotland); all things I never thought I'd do again as a jaded old bloke. I also thought it would be a fair-weather toy, but actually it gets used in any weather (I did about 400 miles down to Cheltenham the day it was reckoned a month's rain came down in one afternoon!). But conceptually very much like the Triumph - all the styling cues from the classic bikes, but up-to-date technology.Off topic. How are you liking your bike?
tvrolet said:
Wacky Racer said:
Good post, says it all really.
Off topic. How are you liking your bike?
Off topic - absolutely loving it still; I just can't fault it for what I wanted it for. I had (still have) a GPz1100 but I was using it less and less to the point where it's been SORNd for about 5 years now. I was getting less and less pleasure out of it year-by-year, and when I did use it, it was maybe for a 50 mile run on a nice day. There's probably 8000 miles on the Indian now, and I'm still making any excuse to get out on it - runs, tours, events, and even just up to the shops! And it won't be laid-up for winter (and it wasn't last winter either). It has totally transformed my love of biking to what it was maybe 30+ years ago! So now a 'run' is probably 200 miles plus; I've done 500+ miles in a day with just fuel stops, toured round the North of Scotland twice plus the inner Hebrides; done London and back (from Scotland); all things I never thought I'd do again as a jaded old bloke. I also thought it would be a fair-weather toy, but actually it gets used in any weather (I did about 400 miles down to Cheltenham the day it was reckoned a month's rain came down in one afternoon!). But conceptually very much like the Triumph - all the styling cues from the classic bikes, but up-to-date technology.Off topic. How are you liking your bike?
Anyhow, sorry to drift off topic, back to the new Triumphs............
So other people think the Bonnie is a lightweight?
For years I have disliked the size and weight of my Thruxton. Always thought it was too heavy and too big. I never once thought it was too slow.
So while I bloody love the look of the Thruxton R, a bigger, heavier, faster bike is going in all the wrong directions for me, and I'd still prefer a Moto Guzzi V7.
For years I have disliked the size and weight of my Thruxton. Always thought it was too heavy and too big. I never once thought it was too slow.
So while I bloody love the look of the Thruxton R, a bigger, heavier, faster bike is going in all the wrong directions for me, and I'd still prefer a Moto Guzzi V7.
woowahwoo said:
ash73 said:
Where is the new Scrambler? Or is that it, a Bonnie with a high exhaust?
You might be correct. The 900s feature the 270 degree crankshaft, now, and it's mentioned above that there will be a long accessory list, for customising them.Gassing Station | Biker Banter | Top of Page | What's New | My Stuff