fjr 1300 or gtr1400

[SplatSpeed]

decisions, decisions?

can't make my mind up?

[VidalBaboon]

GTR all the way. This is purely based on looks, isn't the FJR really pricey for what it is?

[Mr Snap]

Never tried either but have owned FJ1200's and GTR100's. Both excellent long distance road gobblers with unbreakable motors.
Given the choice, I'd go for shaft drive. No mess, no need to replacing chains.

[creampuff]

Test rode them both.

FJR, no contest. The GTR is a ridiculous width, I rejected it on the grounds of you would never be able to filter it anywhere. The GTR is 5 inches wider than a Pan European!!!!

FJR is a nicer ride too.

[jackh707]

K1300 GT

[3DP]

GTR - detuned ZZR1400 lump. Quite impressed with lookatmypussy's one when he brought it to a PH rideout.

[Hooli]

creampuff said:

The GTR is 5 inches wider than a Pan European!!!!

My gawd they must be wider than a smartcar!

[bikerPaul]

Good choice but then i am biased.

How old is the one you've bought?

Regardless of age it is defo worth getting the rear suspension linkage checked out by somewhere reputable. Also if it has ABS then watch out for the sensor getting gummed up and jamming and then mushed. Although it doesn't cause a problem your ABS light will stick on and it will be an MOT failure.

Pop over to FJR Owners forum (something like fjfjrclub.co.uk) for lots of decent information.

Otherwise enjoy.

[SplatSpeed]

Had an FJR loved it, but have issues with yamaha warrenty!

thinking of changing!

[diff lock]

Having just ridden the new Triumph Trophy. My money would go on one of those.

[Andy XRV]

If you prefer upright touring another option is the K1300s with AC Schnitzer bars and a higher screen.

[lookatmypussy]

3DP said:

GTR - detuned ZZR1400 lump. Quite impressed with lookatmypussy's one when he brought it to a PH rideout.

Cheers fella!

I test rode both and the GTR came out on top all the way. It even has factory pre-wiring for a sat nav etc on two parts of the bike - one under the seat for intercoms and one under the front fairing near the yolks for sat nav.

GTR is significantly quicker and handles surprisingly well. ABS is standard (and may well be on the FJR).

Both have electric screens - but the GTR appears to have a better selection of after market goodies...

To be fair, it's pretty subjective. The FJR is still an excellent piece of kit and I'm biased as I have the GTR!

Test ride both - either bike will do you well.

.....except the FJR has a puny engine displacement compared to....... hehe!!

Feel free to ask for any further info on the GTR - you're welcome to have a spin on it if you're local to West London. Oh - they are WIDE - 1 metre to be exact, but I filter perfectly well on the motorway. London traffic and around any town will be a nightmare, but the whole point of these big tourers are big open roads. I absolutely love mine and have spent far too much getting it how I like it with accessories etc...

[creampuff]

Hooli said:

My gawd they must be wider than a smartcar!

Yes maybe I'm a bit odd but I turn up to test rides with a tape measure....

[creampuff]

diff lock said:

Having just ridden the new Triumph Trophy. My money would go on one of those.

Oooooh, I didn't realise they were out. Do tell, how was it?

[lookatmypussy]

GTR 1400 SPECIFICATIONS

ENGINE
Type Liquid-cooled, 4-stroke In-Line Four
Displacement 1,352 cm³
Bore and Stroke 84.0 x 61.0 mm
Compression ratio 10.7:1
Valve system DOHC, 16 valves with variable valve timing
Fuel system Fuel injection: ø40 mm x 4
Ignition Digital
Starting Electric
Lubrication Forced lubrication, wet sump
DRIVETRAIN
Transmission 6-speed, return
Final drive Shaft
Primary reduction ratio 1,556 (84/54)
Gear ratios: 1st 3,333 (50/15)
2nd 2,412 (41/17)
3rd 1,900 (38/20)
4th 1,545 (34/22)
5th 1,292 (31/24)
6th 1,074 (29/27)
Final reduction ratio 2,036 (14/22 x 32/10)
Clutch Wet multi-disc, manual
FRAME
Type Monocoque, pressed-aluminium
Wheel travel: front 113 mm
rear 136 mm
Tyre: front 120/70ZR17M/C (58W)
rear 190/50ZR17M/C (73W)
Caster (rake) 26,1°
Trail 112 mm
Steering angle (left/right) 31° / 31°
SUSPENSION
Front: Type 43 mm inverted fork with adjustable rebound damping and
spring preload
Rear: Type Bottom-Link Uni-Trak with gas-charged shock, Tetra-Lever
Rebound damping Stepless
Spring preload Fully adjustable
BRAKES
Front: Type Dual semi-floating 310 mm petal discs
Caliper Dual radial-mount, opposed 4-piston, 4-pad
Rear: Type Single 270 mm petal disc
Caliper Twin-piston
DIMENSIONS
Overall length 2,270 mm
Overall width 1,000 mm
Overall height / High Position 1,290 mm / 1,405 mm
Wheelbase 1.520 mm
Ground clearance 125 mm
Seat height 815 mm
Dry weight 279 kg
Fuel capacity 22 Litres
PERFORMANCE
Maximum power 114 kW {155 PS} / 8,800 rpm
Maximum torque 136 N·m {13.9 kgf·m} / 6,200 rpm


Sorrrreeeee!

[Wedg1e]

Andy XRV said:

If you prefer upright touring another option is the K1300s with AC Schnitzer bars and a higher screen.

Jesus, were you moving house? I thought blokes were supposed to travel light, two pairs of shreddies and a toothbrush... even our lass doesn't need THAT many bags to go away!

[Andy XRV]

Wedg1e said:

Andy XRV said:

If you prefer upright touring another option is the K1300s with AC Schnitzer bars and a higher screen.

Jesus, were you moving house? I thought blokes were supposed to travel light, two pairs of shreddies and a toothbrush... even our lass doesn't need THAT many bags to go away!

It just looks a lot

TBH unless I expand the BMW panniers (which turns the bike into a smart car) they hold next to nothing and they are more use as rear crash bobbins. 99% of my stuff is in the Giva roll bag which gets dumped at the hotel. That just leaves the top bag which holds the brewing gear and water.

[diff lock]

creampuff said:

Oooooh, I didn't realise they were out. Do tell, how was it?

Not out until the 1st Novemeber. Did the dealer launch a couple of weeks ago. Awsomme bike. It's a big old bus but very nimble, especially with the electronic suspension set in sport mode

I allways had the 10my GTR1400 down as the best tourer you can buy. A real scream to ride, but the Trophy makes it look lame. Just my opinion. Given the bikes the op is looking at, I dont think he will get a wrong 'un.

[Mr Snap]

Hooli said:

creampuff said:

The GTR is 5 inches wider than a Pan European!!!!

My gawd they must be wider than a smartcar!

But still not as wide as my R1100ss and I don't have too much trouble filtering (except when I forget I've got the panniers fitted...).

[Hooli]

Mr Snap said:

Hooli said:

creampuff said:

The GTR is 5 inches wider than a Pan European!!!!

My gawd they must be wider than a smartcar!

But still not as wide as my R1100ss and I don't have too much trouble filtering (except when I forget I've got the panniers fitted...).

I don't have too much trouble filtering my Pan, but as soon as I get back on my GSX14 I go 'fook this is narrow' and filtering gaps feel like an empty road.