Can you lowside in the dry? (Triumph Tiger)

[Driller]

I have a 2006 Tiger (large slightly offroad tyres) and near where I work there are two amusing roundabouts. On dry days I like to have fun on these and appear to be getting the bike progressively lower with no apparent problems. I do wonder though, is there a point where the back wheel will just slide out because I'm leaned too far over? I make sure I don't accelerate too hard out of the roundabout.

[randlemarcus]

Yes, indeed there will come a point where you run out of grip, but unless you have balls the size of grapefruits, you wont find it on the roads.

The problem will come when you try to reach angles of lean that you've done before, and discover inconvenient things like your tyres are not as warm as before, some bu99er has spilled diesel on that particular spot, or that bit of the road has some newly acquired grit and things, which reduce the grip.

In all seriousness, you're probably not as far over as you think you are, and you have plenty left. If you get to grinding bits off the Tiger when going round, then you're cranked over

[black-k1]

If the tyres are warm and the tarmac is dry and clear of things like diesel then you will run out of ground clearance long before the tyres run out of grip.

Note: If the rear lets go it generally results in a high side. Low sides are normally when the front lets go.

[roboxm3]

I suppose once you exceed the limits of grip and by that, I mean the physical tread area of the tyre, it'll let go regardless of the conditions or tyres, although I would imagine a semi-offroad tyre would let to earlier.

....that is until you brick it, roll off and high-side!

[lawrence567]

Basically as said above...

[Driller]

So if if I understand correctly, as long as the road is dry and there is no debris, I can try as hard as I like to go as low as possible with no worries.

I need to borrow someone elses bike to test this theory.



ETA Point noted re the forward/rear tyre and highside/lowside thing.

Edited by Driller on Thursday 16th October 09:35

[dern]

The only problem I find with this kind of fun is that you're leant over so much that avoiding action is now quite difficult. Have fun

[randlemarcus]

dern said:

The only problem I find with this kind of fun is that you're leant over so much that avoiding action is now quite difficult. Have fun

Nah, its easy. Big handful of front brake, and its pretty much guaranteed you wont end up where you were pointing before you did it. No guarantees you'll miss anything else, though

[dern]

randlemarcus said:

dern said:

The only problem I find with this kind of fun is that you're leant over so much that avoiding action is now quite difficult. Have fun

Nah, its easy. Big handful of front brake, and its pretty much guaranteed you wont end up where you were pointing before you did it. No guarantees you'll miss anything else, though

[ssray]

I used to get the pegs down on my xt600 tenere on std wheels-21 fr and 18 back.
Ray
old now so dont lean over

[ssray]

I used to get the pegs down on my xt600 tenere on std wheels-21 fr and 18 back.
Ray
old now so dont lean over