Post your dyno curve here

Post your dyno curve here

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ctsdave

872 posts

176 months

Saturday 2nd November 2013
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Kokkolanpoika said:
Over 70hp drivetrain loss.. Huh huh.. Is that 4x4 or some old automatic 3speed.. usually drivetrain take 13%.. Witch means 310hp wheel = approx 350hp flywheel..
We budget around 17-18% loss usually which this shows 19% so about right... Its through a quaife T5 box and 4.1 diff. Standard prop. There arw many variables in drivetrain losses too...

ctsdave

872 posts

176 months

Saturday 2nd November 2013
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Wildcat have come a pong way since earlydays in quality...

Bigger compression would help in power straight away, combined with cam etc easily over 400bhp. I will be expecting around 415-420 to be competitive in classA!

Hope to see you on the grid soon Alex! Hope you are quick - we need more at the front of the class lol... 2-3 generaly this year on track at a time, would be good to see 4-5 battling for B honours!

v8 racing

2,064 posts

253 months

Saturday 2nd November 2013
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ctsdave said:
Kokkolanpoika said:
Over 70hp drivetrain loss.. Huh huh.. Is that 4x4 or some old automatic 3speed.. usually drivetrain take 13%.. Witch means 310hp wheel = approx 350hp flywheel..
We budget around 17-18% loss usually which this shows 19% so about right... Its through a quaife T5 box and 4.1 diff. Standard prop. There arw many variables in drivetrain losses too...
I certainly don't disbelieve the bhp, for a really well sorted and I mean really well sorted the hp is bloody good but certainly believable, its the torque that gets me, that is fking mental for 4.0, that's almost supercharged territory, seriously I would love to know how that was achieved.

ctsdave

872 posts

176 months

Saturday 2nd November 2013
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Ive already said all I know in engine lol... it was on quad 48s with big chokes/jets to breathe easy. Our torque was effected by ign timing and I know its massive adv at 36! Other than that it was JE crank, wildcat rods, omega pistons. Full race JE heads (as said pre cnc days) with huge valves, 256 cam set to adv timing mark. Volvo rocker shafts and clearences set to 22. Quad carbs and piperx air boxes (fairly tall with short trumpets). These did help torque loads but didnt last long - the plastic started to split!! But did give a ram air effect to an extent. We had 2 or 3 sets of boxes then reverted back to filters...

Chilliman

11,994 posts

163 months

Sunday 3rd November 2013
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I am muchly needing some of this easily over 400bhp action.

phazed

21,878 posts

206 months

Sunday 3rd November 2013
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Chilliman said:
I am muchly needing some of this easily over 400bhp action.
We all like the idea of more power but we shouldn't loose sight of the fact that most of the time we bumble around in our cars.

We had a nice run to the coast yesterday, chatting way with the engine barely going over 1500 rpm, a real pussy cat. What I wouldn't want to loose is that brilliant V8 flexibility, docile at pottering speeds and a real tiger when pushed.

I await various reports from people who are seriously contemplating the upgrade now to see if the results happen and that they are truly satisfied.


Richard 858

1,882 posts

137 months

Sunday 3rd November 2013
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I think it depends on how deep your pockets are Chilli ?

Sardonicus

18,988 posts

223 months

Sunday 3rd November 2013
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phazed said:
We all like the idea of more power but we shouldn't loose sight of the fact that most of the time we bumble around in our cars.

We had a nice run to the coast yesterday, chatting way with the engine barely going over 1500 rpm, a real pussy cat. What I wouldn't want to loose is that brilliant V8 flexibility, docile at pottering speeds and a real tiger when pushed.

I await various reports from people who are seriously contemplating the upgrade now to see if the results happen and that they are truly satisfied.
For me in all honesty Peter I can deal with lack luster performance below say 2500k for example so long as the motor don't snatch and buck below this but just feels flat scratchchin if this means resorting to altering the intake going full sequential inj etc then so be it thumbup

Alexdaredevils

5,697 posts

181 months

Sunday 3rd November 2013
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Sardonicus said:
or me in all honesty Peter I can deal with lack luster performance below say 2500k for example so long as the motor don't snatch and buck below this but just feels flat scratchchin if this means resorting to altering the intake going full sequential inj etc then so be it thumbup
You mean to tell me you don't need 400ftlbs in a traffic jam in a one ton car?!

SILICONEKID343HP

14,997 posts

233 months

Sunday 3rd November 2013
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Sardonicus said:
or me in all honesty Peter I can deal with lack luster performance below say 2500k for example so long as the motor don't snatch and buck below this but just feels flat scratchchin if this means resorting to altering the intake going full sequential inj etc then so be it thumbup
What is full sequential inj ?

Hoofa

3,151 posts

210 months

Sunday 3rd November 2013
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Having a ecu that's capable of firing injectors individually, otherwise they fire in pairs. But before you ask only of you ecu has eight injector outputs.

It gives better low down response , and smoother, plus better mpg as your not wasting fuel firing an injector that isn't needed.

Just google it daz

Edited by Hoofa on Sunday 3rd November 12:30

SILICONEKID343HP

14,997 posts

233 months

Sunday 3rd November 2013
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Hoofa said:
Having a ecu that's capable of firing injectors individually, otherwise they fire in pairs. But before you ask only of you ecu has eight injector outputs.

It gives better low down response , and smoother, plus better mpg as your not wasting fuel firing an injector that isn't needed.
Are you saying un burnt fuel is going in to the combustion chamber and wasted .Why are not all ECU`s full sequential inj..





Edited by SILICONEKID343HP on Sunday 3rd November 12:23

Hoofa

3,151 posts

210 months

Sunday 3rd November 2013
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Well because u need eight injector outputs, not everyone runs a V8 ! That's why most lower end ecu,s r four outputs

Just google it before you ask any more questions

Edited by Hoofa on Sunday 3rd November 12:35

SILICONEKID343HP

14,997 posts

233 months

Hoofa

3,151 posts

210 months

Sunday 3rd November 2013
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Look at the efi megasquirt website, an even better explanation

macdeb

8,531 posts

257 months

Sunday 3rd November 2013
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Hoofa said:
Just google it before you ask any more questions

Edited by Hoofa on Sunday 3rd November 12:35
Ah, Nigel, that would be easy and consider the following;
Daz has the courage to ask questions that many shy from
If we all googled everything, there would be no need for PH wink

phazed

21,878 posts

206 months

Sunday 3rd November 2013
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And we'd all be lonely frown

SILICONEKID343HP

14,997 posts

233 months

Sunday 3rd November 2013
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Talking about ECU`s my Megasquirt MS2 ECU is for sale ..Nothing wrong with it ,just having everything ripped out and starting again ,While I`m at it the ECU is being changed .

The ECU is fine but my wiring is a mess.

Richard 858

1,882 posts

137 months

Sunday 3rd November 2013
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How much are you asking for it Daz ?

carsy

3,018 posts

167 months

Sunday 3rd November 2013
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SILICONEKID343HP said:
Talking about ECU`s my Megasquirt MS2 ECU is for sale ..Nothing wrong with it ,just having everything ripped out and starting again ,While I`m at it the ECU is being changed .

The ECU is fine but my wiring is a mess.
You going Emerald Daz and a visit to Jools.