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Richard 858 said:
How much are you asking for it Daz ?
The website shows the ECU at £475 £415 , I don`t know which one it is and if that is including Vat . The ECU will be removed soon when I have a date for the install .Got an EFI disc and some type of lead. It will have my map on it ..Forgot to mention it has two lambda inputs if you want to run a lambda on each bank .
http://www.extraefi.co.uk/MS_All_products.htm
Edited by SILICONEKID343HP on Sunday 3rd November 19:03
and sad. Phuck, just described myself.
Richard 858 said:
Hi Nick, I wondered if you were going to ask that question !!!
well yes 
those are big numbers for a 4.0ltr - once you go the FI route there are not many other areas that make a difference, as the fact that boost is replacing all the porting/etc - and cam's make little difference. So if you have the right injectors - enough fueling, it comes down to boost. We are running the smallest pulley.What is also interesting that the torque is low - and BHP high, Superchargers - tend to give you more Torque first.
Richard 858 said:
Very nice Simon, am planning the same route - more or less. Did you try keeping the Lucas 14CUX to start with & if so how did you get on with it ?
Yes, kept the 14CUX for 12 months or so.Expensive mistake.
Go for an aftermarket ECU from day 1.
You need mapable ignition to get the real power.
MS2 liberated over 100bhp more !
Intercool from day 1 if you can afford it too.
sgrimshaw said:
Yes, kept the 14CUX for 12 months or so.
Expensive mistake.
Go for an aftermarket ECU from day 1.
You need mapable ignition to get the real power.
MS2 liberated over 100bhp more !
Intercool from day 1 if you can afford it too.
If you don't mind me asking Simon, why was it an expensive mistake ? I assume this is the SC400/450 package which I believe comes supplied with a TVR Power derived Eprom (chip). I will be intercooling from the start but am doing some homework regarding the Mark Adams chip supplied with the SC500 package.Expensive mistake.
Go for an aftermarket ECU from day 1.
You need mapable ignition to get the real power.
MS2 liberated over 100bhp more !
Intercool from day 1 if you can afford it too.
sgrimshaw said:
Yes, kept the 14CUX for 12 months or so.
Expensive mistake.
Go for an aftermarket ECU from day 1.
You need mapable ignition to get the real power.
MS2 liberated over 100bhp more !
Intercool from day 1 if you can afford it too.
I found this and I hadn't even gone with forced induction.Expensive mistake.
Go for an aftermarket ECU from day 1.
You need mapable ignition to get the real power.
MS2 liberated over 100bhp more !
Intercool from day 1 if you can afford it too.
When I started playing with the 14CUX I managed to keep the initial costs down by buying a used Tornado chip & ECU from everyone's favorite plumber.
I then had a certain 14CUX tuner set my car up, which shall we say wasn't the best value for money experience.
Lots of dosh for zero improvement, it seemed I'd set my car up very well before the MA rolling road session and there wasn't much he could do.
The old injector clean wheeze was tried but my newly reconditioned Vectra injectors performed miles better than any Lucas disc type, even brand new ones.
I had assumed he'd be burning me a new bespoke map, in reality it was a rather comprehensive but completely unnecessary & expensive tune up.
I then pulled the plug on the whole 14CUX & distributor debacle and recovered the situation financially by E-Baying various spare ECU's & Tornado chips I'd collected, this saw me almost break even having learnt a valuable lesson.
"Don't waste your time or money on the 14CUX"
My next step to the Canems system from Lloyd Specialist Developments was a completely different experience, what I got for my money was a real improvement I could feel.
The Canems system was definitely well worth the money, it allows me to run LPG & make any further modifications I fancy including forced induction.
Just my experience you understand, but if you're thinking about a blower I'd almost say it's essential to start with a more modern engine management system that give you full control over the ignition & fueling.
Hoofa said:
Well because u need eight injector outputs, not everyone runs a V8 ! That's why most lower end ecu,s r four outputs
Just google it before you ask any more questions
Hi Nige, meant to ask before, what pistons and rods are you running?Just google it before you ask any more questions
Edited by Hoofa on Sunday 3rd November 12:35
ChimpOnGas said:
I found this and I hadn't even gone with forced induction.
When I started playing with the 14CUX I managed to keep the initial costs down by buying a used Tornado chip & ECU from everyone's favorite plumber.
I then had a certain 14CUX tuner set my car up, which shall we say wasn't the best value for money experience.
Lots of dosh for zero improvement, it seemed I'd set my car up very well before the MA rolling road session and there wasn't much he could do.
The old injector clean wheeze was tried but my newly reconditioned Vectra injectors performed miles better than any Lucas disc type, even brand new ones.
I had assumed he'd be burning me a new bespoke map, in reality it was a rather comprehensive but completely unnecessary & expensive tune up.
I then pulled the plug on the whole 14CUX & distributor debacle and recovered the situation financially by E-Baying various spare ECU's & Tornado chips I'd collected, this saw me almost break even having learnt a valuable lesson.
"Don't waste your time or money on the 14CUX"
My next step to the Canems system from Lloyd Specialist Developments was a completely different experience, what I got for my money was a real improvement I could feel.
The Canems system was definitely well worth the money, it allows me to run LPG & make any further modifications I fancy including forced induction.
Just my experience you understand, but if you're thinking about a blower I'd almost say it's essential to start with a more modern engine management system that give you full control over the ignition & fueling.
Dave I forgot you bought my Tornado Chip and ECU .I purchased it from Sapper . When I started playing with the 14CUX I managed to keep the initial costs down by buying a used Tornado chip & ECU from everyone's favorite plumber.
I then had a certain 14CUX tuner set my car up, which shall we say wasn't the best value for money experience.
Lots of dosh for zero improvement, it seemed I'd set my car up very well before the MA rolling road session and there wasn't much he could do.
The old injector clean wheeze was tried but my newly reconditioned Vectra injectors performed miles better than any Lucas disc type, even brand new ones.
I had assumed he'd be burning me a new bespoke map, in reality it was a rather comprehensive but completely unnecessary & expensive tune up.
I then pulled the plug on the whole 14CUX & distributor debacle and recovered the situation financially by E-Baying various spare ECU's & Tornado chips I'd collected, this saw me almost break even having learnt a valuable lesson.
"Don't waste your time or money on the 14CUX"
My next step to the Canems system from Lloyd Specialist Developments was a completely different experience, what I got for my money was a real improvement I could feel.
The Canems system was definitely well worth the money, it allows me to run LPG & make any further modifications I fancy including forced induction.
Just my experience you understand, but if you're thinking about a blower I'd almost say it's essential to start with a more modern engine management system that give you full control over the ignition & fueling.
My MS2 will be available in December for £200 less than the listed price ,you can buy a ready made loom for £165 from EFI extras and all the bits and bobs from Phil Ringwood EFI Extras or Trigger wheels .All so up for grabs is A wide Lambda and Techedge J21 controller at half price .
http://trigger-wheels.com/store/contents/en-uk/d27...
http://www.extraefi.co.uk/RV8_Kits.html#pnp
Techedge
Richard 858 said:
Out of interest Daz, why are you selling it ?
Because the install is poor ,nothing to do with the ECU , I thought while I`m at might as well change the ECU.The installer made a bit of a hash of it and I have wires everywhere.
There will be a full set of leads for the ford coil packs thrown in.
Most of the lads have megasquirtt and are very happy with it .My car runs well ,you know how much power it makes but until the wiring is changed I will not be happy .
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