Chimaera Prices

[citizen smith]

mart 63 said:

Tomm3 said:

Well she's gone! No regrets, I've had a wonderful 8yrs with her.
Nothing else I get will match the sheer looks and drama. I'm not going to start a which is best thread, loads of info out there, but I'm thinking Boxster or 3.0 Z4 next. At least the neighbours will be happy :-)

A mate of mine sold his Griff, bought a Z4M. Sold the Z, and now has a Chim.

Problem is TVR's are addictive, once driven forever smitten! You may change to more modern brands of vehicles, but you will always go back to one in the end.

[phazed]

citizen smith said:

Problem is TVR's are addictive, once driven forever smitten! You may change to more modern brands of vehicles, but you will always go back to one in the end.

I agree they are quite addictive but times change. I am really enjoying my Porsche at the moment and use it 10 times as much as I ever did the TVR.

I would only go back to something quite different like an LS cerb if one came up at the right price or possibly needing some work as a project. The trouble is, what is the point. More and more speed restrictions, people with dash cams filming you overtaking and reporting you to the police, it hardly seems worth it. At the moment I'm quite happy in the better handling lower powered Porsche, (300+ bhp) where I can happily wiizz around quiet country roads.

[citizen smith]

phazed said:

I agree they are quite addictive but times change. I am really enjoying my Porsche at the moment and use it 10 times as much as I ever did the TVR.

I would only go back to something quite different like an LS cerb if one came up at the right price or possibly needing some work as a project. The trouble is, what is the point. More and more speed restrictions, people with dash cams filming you overtaking and reporting you to the police, it hardly seems worth it. At the moment I'm quite happy in the better handling lower powered Porsche, (300+ bhp) where I can happily wiizz around quiet country roads.

Fair point's made, but people filming with dash cams don't discriminate by car brands - perhaps purely their driving manner. Big brother from all angles!
Country roads are not what they use to be like 48 years ago, when they were not full of people walking, riding bikes 2/3 abreast and not forgetting folk on horse back, plus we did not have to try and avoid giant tyre ripping pot holes.

[phazed]

Without ranting too much, I have overtaken people down country lanes safely and at the speed limit in the TVR several times and have had headlamps flashed at me for just the cheek of passing a car. Times have definitely changed. All those years ago i used to spend most of the time on the wrong side of road passing cars and people didn't even blink.

Roll on the track day season.

[VerySideways]

citizen smith said:

Problem is TVR's are addictive, once driven forever smitten! You may change to more modern brands of vehicles, but you will always go back to one in the end.

So are certain Porsches. Only solution? One of each.

[mart 63]

VerySideways said:

citizen smith said:

Problem is TVR's are addictive, once driven forever smitten! You may change to more modern brands of vehicles, but you will always go back to one in the end.

So are certain Porsches. Only solution? One of each.

Thats sounds good. Convertible and a coupe.

[Johnniem]

citizen smith said:

I,m pondering about the Caymen, have you had any issues.

None, but the Cayman 987 gen 2 is bombproof, as is the 981, in all guises. Many prefer the 981 as it is more 'modern' in it's interior. I prefer the 987 for the curvy rear haunches. From the 987 onwards it became a little too slab sided for my liking. All subjective of course. The 981 is probably the preferred car for most but if you can suffer the fact that it is a 4 pot, the 718 is very very capable.

If you have sufficient money (£20k + for a Cayman or Boxster S - the one to have if coming from a Chim) then avoid the 987. gen 1 as it has 'possible' problems with bore scoring. This requires a £5k engone rebuild but if you can find one that has had the rebuild then it is a good machine but you wont get it with the PDK gearbox (the one to have, with flappy paddle and sports + mode).

Keep asking questions if there are more.

JM

[citizen smith]

Johnniem said:

None, but the Cayman 987 gen 2 is bombproof, as is the 981, in all guises. Many prefer the 981 as it is more 'modern' in it's interior. I prefer the 987 for the curvy rear haunches. From the 987 onwards it became a little too slab sided for my liking. All subjective of course. The 981 is probably the preferred car for most but if you can suffer the fact that it is a 4 pot, the 718 is very very capable.

If you have sufficient money (£20k + for a Cayman or Boxster S - the one to have if coming from a Chim) then avoid the 987. gen 1 as it has 'possible' problems with bore scoring. This requires a £5k engone rebuild but if you can find one that has had the rebuild then it is a good machine but you wont get it with the PDK gearbox (the one to have, with flappy paddle and sports + mode).

Keep asking questions if there are more.

JM

Many thanks for the info. I would probably looking for a PDK - 2012 on Cayman, due to a weak left foot.

[saxon]

To be honest even as a Griff owner I can completely see the appeal of the Porsche. Easier to drive/live with, niceties like heated seats and effective aircon, more predictable handling, more refined etc. I came incredibly close to selling my Griff because the cost/hassle-reward ratio was starting to not stack up. My daily driver is a Toyota GT86, not as fast as a Cayman but a superb handling car and just a wonderful car to drive and change gear and corner in and has all the niceties like heated seats etc.

Having said that a TVR is a far more raw, visceral experience which can be good or bad depending on mood/time of day/weather conditions etc.

I've kept the Griff and am very glad I did, but nobody with an open mind here is going to knock a Porsche! They are undoubtedly fantastic at what they can do and I would argue that the 911 is probably the world's only daily usable supercar. Quite simply anything else including a TVR, Ferrari, McLaren, Lambo. Aston is almost certainly going to need an annoying amount of fettling when subjected to 15000 a year in all weathers. That alone is a good enough reason for Porsche to have been making 'em for over 50 years!

Saxon

[QBee]

I keep seeing this in Waitrose's car park, a 2014/15 Cayperson.
My TVR heart can't help liking it - my Porsche would have to be a yellow one, with a butler to keep it clean at all times (I have never seen so much as a spot of dirt on this one)

[phazed]

QBee said:

I keep seeing this in Waitrose's car park, a 2014/15 Cayperson.
My TVR heart can't help liking it - my Porsche would have to be a yellow one, with a butler to keep it clean at all times (I have never seen so much as a spot of dirt on this one)

That is a beauty!

A wonderful car the Cayman, does everything you want apart from lift the roof off. If that doesn’t bother you then it is definitely the sensible choice considering what else is out there.

I bought a 987.1 Boxster as the prices for the 987.2 last year were stronger than they are now. I chose mine as they only made them in 2008, a very limited edition model with all the trinkets. Yes, these were prone to bore score but that was on a very small percentage of cars and doing a bit of research seems to be on the cars that are lower mileage with less usage i.e. short runs. I don’t expect mine to suffer from this as at 12 years old it doesn’t use a drop of oil and seems as tight as a drum. I would quite like a 996 Carrera S but only to go alongside the Boxster not as a replacement. I have no need for the back seat so this additional car would just be a luxury, we will see.

BTW, Drove a 3.0 Z4 a few years ago with switchable suspension. It ran as hard as nails on the road and definitely didn’t seem as much fun. Funny enough it belonged to a friend who had a 5.0 Griff before and stuffed it in a ditch. He now understands the lack of traction/stability/ABS et cetera,, Ha ha!

[mart 63]

Somebody on Facebook , only half hour ago, has sold his Cayman. He's looking for a nice 4L chim.

[8Speed]

The only trouble with Porsches (and I've had a couple of 911s) is that there are so many of them around. It makes them less special somehow.
Victim of their own success.

[Johnniem]

8Speed said:

The only trouble with Porsches (and I've had a couple of 911s) is that there are so many of them around. It makes them less special somehow.
Victim of their own success.

Agree but only in respect of 911's (they are an amazing car though!). The Cayman is seen much less on the roads. Boxsters are much more popular as they have the open top experience.

[phazed]

Johnniem said:

8Speed said:

The only trouble with Porsches (and I've had a couple of 911s) is that there are so many of them around. It makes them less special somehow.
Victim of their own success.

Agree but only in respect of 911's (they are an amazing car though!). The Cayman is seen much less on the roads. Boxsters are much more popular as they have the open top experience.

I agree on all the above. That is one thing, if not the only negative is that there are far more Porsche’s than TVRs.

On the other hand, I still hardly ever see another Boxster on the road.

[MG-FIDO]

So, have three pages of Porsche discussion caused a nosedive in Chimaera prices or are the cars still worth something?

[phazed]

Most cars have come down in price.

The very best will still hold firm I reckon but the average ones will be harder to sell hence cheaper.

[VerySideways]

mart 63 said:

VerySideways said:

citizen smith said:

Problem is TVR's are addictive, once driven forever smitten! You may change to more modern brands of vehicles, but you will always go back to one in the end.

So are certain Porsches. Only solution? One of each.

Thats sounds good. Convertible and a coupe.

Exactly!!

[Tomm3]

phazed said:

Most cars have come down in price.

The very best will still hold firm I reckon but the average ones will be harder to sell hence cheaper.

That's why I let mine go, gone back to the previous owner which is why I got a fair price.
Hadn't planned to sell this year but with things as they are I thought I should do the deal. Only car I've ever made money on, sold for 2.5k more than I paid 8yrs ago.
Not sunk in yet, although I'm missing the excitement of seeing it in the garage plus the driving experience.
Not started looking for her replacement yet, only online, but can't wait to try other cars, exciting times :-)

[Squirrelofwoe]

My wife and I are currently on the lookout for a Tuscan, but we've decided it's just not worth selling or p/x'ing the Chim to make it happen though- it is currently worth approx £2k more than I paid for it 4 years ago, however in that time I've spent approx £9k sorting stuff out so it's now had:

-new outriggers
-Gaz suspension inc setup/geo
-new clutch
-new roof and rear screen
-new afterburner rear lights
-new carpets
-full interior re-trim with leather door cards etc
-fusebox relocated to behind passenger seat
-new battery tray with hinged front for easy access
-new fuel pump
-new radiator
-new waterpump
-new brake discs and pads
-new window motors
-new tyres

Then most recently;
-engine rebuild including new camshaft, new piston rings, valve seals, springs, rockers, heads reground etc.



I feel I now need to own it for at least another 10 years to even out the money I've spent on it!

The plus side is that it means we'll then have two TVRs, which is never a bad thing right? Along with a 3.0 Z4 roadster. In a country where it mostly rains

And my wife is largely buying the Tuscan which I've decided pretty much absolves me of financial irresponsibility...