X150 coupe: Talk me out of it
Discussion
a8hex said:
If the guy is able to find someone to part with £7K then that's what its worth.
It you can find one for 3 at auction then good luck to you too.
Believe me next time I will very much lean into my overdraft and buy any dog eared broken cheap XK150 I come across on a whim, safe in the knowledge that the greed and delusion of some of the cars admirers will see that it pays much dividends come sale time. If you're lucky I'll even take my own pictures for adverts It you can find one for 3 at auction then good luck to you too.
WorldBoss said:
And by magic, it has appeared!
https://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/125772241528?hash=item1...
£3,500 hammer down last weekend, £7,000 to you now without so much as new photos, the pedestrian warning system repaired, the exhaust welded back up or the seats taken out of Gangster lean position, being sold by a vendor based from a residential house who cannot be bothered to even take photos of their stock not provided free by British car auctions.
And if it wasn't egregious enough just knowing that traders are trying to get away with margins like this with clearly zero effort and prep, it is knowing the private sellers that are now going to think their slightly dog eared 121k example with a plethora of warning symbols on the dash is maybe worth £5,000 private sale if this one is listed for £7k. And perhaps a slightly nicer one that has seats that can be adjusted and no warning symbols is maybe worth £7,000? Or perhaps £10,000?
And imagine if you had a decent XKR 5.0
? The holy grail of XKs... What's that worth? £15k? £20k? Maybe £25k? And then you get to the mess of this (and many other specialist cars I keep tabs on) market where everyone thinks that they are holding onto the next Escort Cosworth or Skyline GTR... Feck, even a Pug 205 GTI, I paid a spicy at the time £1400 for my last one in 2010... I wouldn't hope to get a genuine shell for that much now 
Harsh reality check for that car above and anybody who thinks that classified ads are indicative of the market of what cars actually trade hands for; That car isn't worth the money in the state that I saw it (from just the photos on BCA, honest
) and neither is the subsequent inflation of prices that private vendors might ask as a result. That car will sit and rot as opposed to being to finding a loving home with an enthusiast who can lavish the care and attention that a slightly knackered jaguar coupe both demands and needs.
This seems to be a very UK problem; My friend in the states will not pay more than $1000 for a Jaguar, and yet still picks up XK100s (more often than not verts), V12 XJS' and series V12 Series XJs virtually every other month, running, driving and often in better states rust wise than anything you'd find in the UK for much less than 5 to 10 grand.
I'm sorry to have a bit of a rant, but its an absolute mess, and as a life long car enthusiast of very modest means I've seen myself being priced completely out of my one passion in life for nothing other than greed and it makes me very sad. No, I don't expect people to give vehicles away as a kind deed, but I'd like them to go back to pricing stuff with a semblance of reality.
A few comments I would like to make , this car even in its present condition was a bargain at £3500 and I suspect an easy fix for any proper Jaguar Enthusiast . I dont think its been bought by the Trade but more likely someone who realises he bought a bargain and is seeking to take a quick profit .https://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/125772241528?hash=item1...
£3,500 hammer down last weekend, £7,000 to you now without so much as new photos, the pedestrian warning system repaired, the exhaust welded back up or the seats taken out of Gangster lean position, being sold by a vendor based from a residential house who cannot be bothered to even take photos of their stock not provided free by British car auctions.
And if it wasn't egregious enough just knowing that traders are trying to get away with margins like this with clearly zero effort and prep, it is knowing the private sellers that are now going to think their slightly dog eared 121k example with a plethora of warning symbols on the dash is maybe worth £5,000 private sale if this one is listed for £7k. And perhaps a slightly nicer one that has seats that can be adjusted and no warning symbols is maybe worth £7,000? Or perhaps £10,000?
And imagine if you had a decent XKR 5.0
? The holy grail of XKs... What's that worth? £15k? £20k? Maybe £25k? And then you get to the mess of this (and many other specialist cars I keep tabs on) market where everyone thinks that they are holding onto the next Escort Cosworth or Skyline GTR... Feck, even a Pug 205 GTI, I paid a spicy at the time £1400 for my last one in 2010... I wouldn't hope to get a genuine shell for that much now Harsh reality check for that car above and anybody who thinks that classified ads are indicative of the market of what cars actually trade hands for; That car isn't worth the money in the state that I saw it (from just the photos on BCA, honest
) and neither is the subsequent inflation of prices that private vendors might ask as a result. That car will sit and rot as opposed to being to finding a loving home with an enthusiast who can lavish the care and attention that a slightly knackered jaguar coupe both demands and needs. This seems to be a very UK problem; My friend in the states will not pay more than $1000 for a Jaguar, and yet still picks up XK100s (more often than not verts), V12 XJS' and series V12 Series XJs virtually every other month, running, driving and often in better states rust wise than anything you'd find in the UK for much less than 5 to 10 grand.
I'm sorry to have a bit of a rant, but its an absolute mess, and as a life long car enthusiast of very modest means I've seen myself being priced completely out of my one passion in life for nothing other than greed and it makes me very sad. No, I don't expect people to give vehicles away as a kind deed, but I'd like them to go back to pricing stuff with a semblance of reality.
Edited by WorldBoss on Tuesday 7th March 20:28
Edited by WorldBoss on Tuesday 7th March 20:29
Nothing wrong nor illegal in that , any of us could have done the same . For me your statement about Traders and Margins therefore doesn't hold much relevance in this particular case .
It also doesn't matter how much a Private Seller asks for his Car because in the end market forces will decide the cars value , are some Jaguars overpriced by the Trade ? I definitely know so . No Private Seller is going to base the price for his pride and joy on an equivalent car from Auction because its much simpler to look at what the Trade is asking and price yours accordingly which more often than not will be up to £5k cheaper . I honestly dont see where greed comes into the equation .
As far as the Car you saw at Auction goes , the Vendor has still to sell it at the money he is asking . That could prove a tall order .
As regards Classified Ads not being indicative of the price that Cars are actually changing hands for , I would have thought thats always been the case . I have seldom paid a Private Seller his full asking price and many price accordingly knowing they will inevitably be knocked down .
I cant comment on what your friend does in the USA and how he apparently buys cheaply . What prevented you from bidding £3500 for the car you have listed above , you thought it was over valued ?
stickleback123 said:
The prices I'm quoting are first CAP estimates and then actual hammer prices, my personal opinion on what they are worth doesn't come into it. I also have a friend who works at one of the auction sites who can check the cars out for me in person so I don't have to rely on the reports and know which ones are wrecks and which ones are worth looking at. A 130k XK went for £3,500 last week, it needed about £400 spending on it but was a decent car.
If this is, as you so insightfully say, "b
ks" then it'll doubtless come as a horrible shock to the 30 or so buyers I have seen win auctions, hand over (not very much) money and drive away in their (not very expensive) X150s.
I'm sorry you appear to take the depreciation that Jaguars experience as a personal insult, I've no dog in this fight whatsoever, but you might want to get into classic Ferraris if seeing a car depreciate to nothing bothers you, because old smoker Jags are going to give you an aneurism.
As for engines grenading the timing chain issues with the 5.0 are hardly a secret, and the numbers of non runners with engine issues you see for sale is entirely disproportionate to the numbers sold. Of course you never know how they were treated, but you rarely see 4.2 litre engine failures. I'm aware that the plural of anecdote is not data.
Jaguar’s v8s are some of the most reliable big engines out there. Hell, even the old 2.7 turbo diesels will go to the moon and back with minimal servicing requirements.If this is, as you so insightfully say, "b
ks" then it'll doubtless come as a horrible shock to the 30 or so buyers I have seen win auctions, hand over (not very much) money and drive away in their (not very expensive) X150s.I'm sorry you appear to take the depreciation that Jaguars experience as a personal insult, I've no dog in this fight whatsoever, but you might want to get into classic Ferraris if seeing a car depreciate to nothing bothers you, because old smoker Jags are going to give you an aneurism.
As for engines grenading the timing chain issues with the 5.0 are hardly a secret, and the numbers of non runners with engine issues you see for sale is entirely disproportionate to the numbers sold. Of course you never know how they were treated, but you rarely see 4.2 litre engine failures. I'm aware that the plural of anecdote is not data.
Edited by stickleback123 on Monday 6th March 20:24
Running any performance engine on cheap oil and coolant from Tesco and the cheapest fuel you can find will cause issues, but 99% of the problems come from people buying cars on finance they can’t actually afford to run and then trying to push service intervals as far as possible and using the crappiest fluids and filters they can find.
I’ve got a tdv8 Range Rover with 178k miles on it that runs like a sewing machine and doesn’t drop a single bit of fluid, I put 174k miles on an S type with zero issues and the XK 5.0 I have is sound and will remain so.
Run any big prestige car on the budget you’d need to run a £2k Hyundai hatchback and any of them will be “unreliable”. 🤷♂️
cybertrophic said:
stickleback123 said:
The prices I'm quoting are first CAP estimates and then actual hammer prices, my personal opinion on what they are worth doesn't come into it. I also have a friend who works at one of the auction sites who can check the cars out for me in person so I don't have to rely on the reports and know which ones are wrecks and which ones are worth looking at. A 130k XK went for £3,500 last week, it needed about £400 spending on it but was a decent car.
If this is, as you so insightfully say, "bks" then it'll doubtless come as a horrible shock to the 30 or so buyers I have seen win auctions, hand over (not very much) money and drive away in their (not very expensive) X150s.
I'm sorry you appear to take the depreciation that Jaguars experience as a personal insult, I've no dog in this fight whatsoever, but you might want to get into classic Ferraris if seeing a car depreciate to nothing bothers you, because old smoker Jags are going to give you an aneurism.
As for engines grenading the timing chain issues with the 5.0 are hardly a secret, and the numbers of non runners with engine issues you see for sale is entirely disproportionate to the numbers sold. Of course you never know how they were treated, but you rarely see 4.2 litre engine failures. I'm aware that the plural of anecdote is not data.
Jaguar’s v8s are some of the most reliable big engines out there. Hell, even the old 2.7 turbo diesels will go to the moon and back with minimal servicing requirements.If this is, as you so insightfully say, "b
ks" then it'll doubtless come as a horrible shock to the 30 or so buyers I have seen win auctions, hand over (not very much) money and drive away in their (not very expensive) X150s.I'm sorry you appear to take the depreciation that Jaguars experience as a personal insult, I've no dog in this fight whatsoever, but you might want to get into classic Ferraris if seeing a car depreciate to nothing bothers you, because old smoker Jags are going to give you an aneurism.
As for engines grenading the timing chain issues with the 5.0 are hardly a secret, and the numbers of non runners with engine issues you see for sale is entirely disproportionate to the numbers sold. Of course you never know how they were treated, but you rarely see 4.2 litre engine failures. I'm aware that the plural of anecdote is not data.
Edited by stickleback123 on Monday 6th March 20:24
Running any performance engine on cheap oil and coolant from Tesco and the cheapest fuel you can find will cause issues, but 99% of the problems come from people buying cars on finance they can’t actually afford to run and then trying to push service intervals as far as possible and using the crappiest fluids and filters they can find.
I’ve got a tdv8 Range Rover with 178k miles on it that runs like a sewing machine and doesn’t drop a single bit of fluid, I put 174k miles on an S type with zero issues and the XK 5.0 I have is sound and will remain so.
Run any big prestige car on the budget you’d need to run a £2k Hyundai hatchback and any of them will be “unreliable”. ?????
Indeed. I've heard of this rumour about timing chains on the 5.0 being a "ticking time bomb" , but have yet to see any examples I can recall of this amongst the XK and/or Range Rover cars.
I have 1 of each, a 100K+miles XKR and a 125K+ FFRR, both 5.0 S/C, both running perfectly. Only issue so far on both has been the water pumps which are actually made of cheese.
The only cars I've heard of seeming to have timing chain issues are the XFs, and only one maybe two of those in online examples. But I do wonder if maybe the XFs aren't being run , or weren't being run, by people not willing or able to do the oil services as regularly as should be, e.g. treating the car as just a car rather than the more enthusiast owner an XKR might get.
I have 1 of each, a 100K+miles XKR and a 125K+ FFRR, both 5.0 S/C, both running perfectly. Only issue so far on both has been the water pumps which are actually made of cheese.
The only cars I've heard of seeming to have timing chain issues are the XFs, and only one maybe two of those in online examples. But I do wonder if maybe the XFs aren't being run , or weren't being run, by people not willing or able to do the oil services as regularly as should be, e.g. treating the car as just a car rather than the more enthusiast owner an XKR might get.
Well I finally sold mine last night, chap came to see it and left a deposit, he's coming back tonight to finalise and collect. I'll be sad to see mine go, I've enjoyed it a great deal but I have other itches to scratch. I would have liked to get an F-Type but it would need to be a later V8 model for me and they're beyond my budget just now. There's always next time.
Piersman2 said:
Indeed. I've heard of this rumour about timing chains on the 5.0 being a "ticking time bomb" , but have yet to see any examples I can recall of this amongst the XK and/or Range Rover cars.
I have 1 of each, a 100K+miles XKR and a 125K+ FFRR, both 5.0 S/C, both running perfectly. Only issue so far on both has been the water pumps which are actually made of cheese.
The only cars I've heard of seeming to have timing chain issues are the XFs, and only one maybe two of those in online examples. But I do wonder if maybe the XFs aren't being run , or weren't being run, by people not willing or able to do the oil services as regularly as should be, e.g. treating the car as just a car rather than the more enthusiast owner an XKR might get.
I'm genuinely not sure how you have managed to find only one or two examples of timing chain issues from the internet on a 5.0 JLR engine? Simply typing in "5.0 timing chain brings up a plethora of videos, forum posts and articles related to the JLR 5.0 and them going through chains faster than a rapper with a H Samuel gift card.I have 1 of each, a 100K+miles XKR and a 125K+ FFRR, both 5.0 S/C, both running perfectly. Only issue so far on both has been the water pumps which are actually made of cheese.
The only cars I've heard of seeming to have timing chain issues are the XFs, and only one maybe two of those in online examples. But I do wonder if maybe the XFs aren't being run , or weren't being run, by people not willing or able to do the oil services as regularly as should be, e.g. treating the car as just a car rather than the more enthusiast owner an XKR might get.
There are numerous internal jaguar service bulletins, at least two different chain revisions off the top of my head and a now settled class action lawsuit filed in the states:
https://m.carcomplaints.com/news/2022/land-rover-t...
I'm glad that your sample of two out of tens of thousands of these engines that were made is in your favour, but when extrapolating when using others people's posted advice or speaking with JLR specialists or speaking to people that see, drive and inspect these cars daily, I think it's very hard to argue that there isn't an underlying issue with the engine.
I am also very confused by your pop at XF owners - Do you not consider them to not be a "enthusiast owners" because their cars cost marginally less than yours?
.If that is indeed what you were implying, what about the super mega enthusiast owners of F types reporting the same issues on cars as late and valuable as 2017 F types?
https://www.jaguarforums.com/forum/f-type-x152-72/...
Thank you, I'm already a subscriber to James's chanel! I have to say, he's certainly cemented the idea, although possibly I'd have liked him to be more expansive on the ride quality levels between models and alloy options. As I'm looking to come from a Type R, I'm quite keen that I don't end up in a car with a jiggly or unsettled ride otherwise I'm right back where I am now. The £1,800 service for the belts (serpentine and supercharger) was an eye opener, and means quite possibly the XKR is beyond my pocket, although I'd still consider one if the right car came along. However I suspect the "ordinary" (if there is such a thing) XK more aligns with my desire for a comfortable cruiser.
I did however curse him for reminding everyone else the X150 existed, there's precious few in the spec and colours I like already without waking up the YouTube crowd.
I did however curse him for reminding everyone else the X150 existed, there's precious few in the spec and colours I like already without waking up the YouTube crowd.
Vsix and Vtec said:
Thank you, I'm already a subscriber to James's chanel! I have to say, he's certainly cemented the idea, although possibly I'd have liked him to be more expansive on the ride quality levels between models and alloy options. As I'm looking to come from a Type R, I'm quite keen that I don't end up in a car with a jiggly or unsettled ride otherwise I'm right back where I am now. The £1,800 service for the belts (serpentine and supercharger) was an eye opener, and means quite possibly the XKR is beyond my pocket, although I'd still consider one if the right car came along. However I suspect the "ordinary" (if there is such a thing) XK more aligns with my desire for a comfortable cruiser.
I did however curse him for reminding everyone else the X150 existed, there's precious few in the spec and colours I like already without waking up the YouTube crowd.
For what it's worth, I ran a 5.0XKR as an occasional car for a few years, and have recently ventured back into X150 ownership, but deliberately went for a late XK Signature instead, as I thought the N/A car would be better suited to almost everyday use. I find that it's less frantic nature and more progressive power delivery make it better suited to regular use than the supercharged car. It is hardly slow though, and still has a fair turn of speed when required. I also think it seems to sound better than my R did.I did however curse him for reminding everyone else the X150 existed, there's precious few in the spec and colours I like already without waking up the YouTube crowd.
Despite 20-inch wheels, the car rides pretty well, although the XKR did too. My brother recently drove my current car and was impressed with the way it coped with the dreadful Cambridgeshire roads; he drives a Jaguar X350 V8.
I would not rule out an "ordinary" XK!
RB CV8 said:
For what it's worth, I ran a 5.0XKR as an occasional car for a few years, and have recently ventured back into X150 ownership, but deliberately went for a late XK Signature instead, as I thought the N/A car would be better suited to almost everyday use. I find that it's less frantic nature and more progressive power delivery make it better suited to regular use than the supercharged car. It is hardly slow though, and still has a fair turn of speed when required. I also think it seems to sound better than my R did.
Despite 20-inch wheels, the car rides pretty well, although the XKR did too. My brother recently drove my current car and was impressed with the way it coped with the dreadful Cambridgeshire roads; he drives a Jaguar X350 V8.
I would not rule out an "ordinary" XK!
I think i'm more or less settled at the point where I'm certain to be looking at a 4.2 rather than the 5.0, there's just more examples of them in my price range (£10k to £15k with PX included) and I'm quite content with that. I'm glad to see you say that the 20" doesn't ruin the ride, I've been kind of giving those a wide birth. The only things i'm really setting in stone are that it must be a coupe, it must have wood rather than aluminium, and it must be a lighter colour (Liquid Silver is my preference, followed by Frost Blue, then maybe Radiance Red, Winter Gold or one of the many Greens) with a light interior. The XK 60 with the blue leather and American Maplewood is an option but not very common, certainly at my range. Lastly, I'm hoping to keep the mileage as low as I can realistically afford, and it looks like I'll be somewhere around the 60 -80k miles area. Obviously condition and history trump miles, especially as I'm aware the drivebelts and gearbox fluid changes are a must if I want to have a hope of it being reliable. Despite 20-inch wheels, the car rides pretty well, although the XKR did too. My brother recently drove my current car and was impressed with the way it coped with the dreadful Cambridgeshire roads; he drives a Jaguar X350 V8.
I would not rule out an "ordinary" XK!
Vsix and Vtec said:
I think i'm more or less settled at the point where I'm certain to be looking at a 4.2 rather than the 5.0, there's just more examples of them in my price range (£10k to £15k with PX included) and I'm quite content with that. I'm glad to see you say that the 20" doesn't ruin the ride, I've been kind of giving those a wide birth. The only things i'm really setting in stone are that it must be a coupe, it must have wood rather than aluminium, and it must be a lighter colour (Liquid Silver is my preference, followed by Frost Blue, then maybe Radiance Red, Winter Gold or one of the many Greens) with a light interior. The XK 60 with the blue leather and American Maplewood is an option but not very common, certainly at my range. Lastly, I'm hoping to keep the mileage as low as I can realistically afford, and it looks like I'll be somewhere around the 60 -80k miles area. Obviously condition and history trump miles, especially as I'm aware the drivebelts and gearbox fluid changes are a must if I want to have a hope of it being reliable.
When I bought my XKR, I decided that I didn't want black and preferred a light interior; I ended up with black with black! The condition of the car made the difference. It was a 68k mile car. The the current car had covered 38,000 miles with full Jaguar history. Again I didn't want black, but that's what I got, but with ivory upholstery.I haven't found them particularly expensive to maintain. Service parts are reasonably priced; there are numerous sources. I favour "genuine" bits but use EBC Red Stuff brake pads. Getting part numbers is easy, then shop around. I use a local place for servicing/repairs on all my cars. Their labour rate is far lower than main dealers and they are always putting Ferraris and Porsches right so know what they are doing.
RB CV8 said:
When I bought my XKR, I decided that I didn't want black and preferred a light interior; I ended up with black with black! The condition of the car made the difference. It was a 68k mile car. The the current car had covered 38,000 miles with full Jaguar history. Again I didn't want black, but that's what I got, but with ivory upholstery.
I haven't found them particularly expensive to maintain. Service parts are reasonably priced; there are numerous sources. I favour "genuine" bits but use EBC Red Stuff brake pads. Getting part numbers is easy, then shop around. I use a local place for servicing/repairs on all my cars. Their labour rate is far lower than main dealers and they are always putting Ferraris and Porsches right so know what they are doing.
I had a similar situation with my old L322, ended up black with black, but I'm determined that's not happening this time. Thanks for the input regarding costs too, it sounds like we have a very similar approach to things, I'll be using genuine parts where possible, or high quality aftermarket like EBC (I love thier Yellow Stuff pads on my Type R) and Yuassa. The first service in my ownership will probably be at a main dealer so they have the opportunity to check it for any outstanding recalls, but the rest will be at an independent Jaguar specialist. I haven't found them particularly expensive to maintain. Service parts are reasonably priced; there are numerous sources. I favour "genuine" bits but use EBC Red Stuff brake pads. Getting part numbers is easy, then shop around. I use a local place for servicing/repairs on all my cars. Their labour rate is far lower than main dealers and they are always putting Ferraris and Porsches right so know what they are doing.
Bugger. Looks like I've failed and this is now a thing that's happening.
8bit said:
Well I finally sold mine last night, chap came to see it and left a deposit, he's coming back tonight to finalise and collect. I'll be sad to see mine go, I've enjoyed it a great deal but I have other itches to scratch. I would have liked to get an F-Type but it would need to be a later V8 model for me and they're beyond my budget just now. There's always next time.
Well thats good news and I cant wait to hear your opinions on the AMG Mercedes engine should you get one . Personally I am not so sure you will revisit the Jaguar Brand as once People get into these German Cars like the Hitler Youth they quickly get indoctrinated with them goose-stepping round Waitrose in Boss shirts and Porsche Design sunglasses , present company excepted of course 
Edited by reddiesel on Monday 3rd April 08:28
reddiesel said:
8bit said:
Well I finally sold mine last night, chap came to see it and left a deposit, he's coming back tonight to finalise and collect. I'll be sad to see mine go, I've enjoyed it a great deal but I have other itches to scratch. I would have liked to get an F-Type but it would need to be a later V8 model for me and they're beyond my budget just now. There's always next time.
Well thats good news and I cant wait to hear your opinions on the AMG Mercedes engine should you get one . Personally I am not so sure you will revisit the Jaguar Brand as once People get into these German Cars like the Hitler Youth they quickly get indoctrinated with them goose-stepping round Waitrose in Boss shirts and Porsche Design sunglasses , present company excepted of course Edited by reddiesel on Monday 3rd April 08:28
I needed on a Mondy morning, red! Just as well we don't have a Waitrose here in Aberdeen... All being well I'm picking up my C63 on Thursday morning, from an independent dealer near Southampton, then the small matter of about ten hours' drive home.Thats great news and I am really pleased for you . I am just looking at your Routes back North and I doubt you will pass Jnct 14 of the M1 ? I am going up to Glasgow for the weekend departing late Thursday afternoon or more likely 2am Friday morning . I am looking forward to the Classic Car gathering run by the Lanarkshire Car Club at Glasgow Tall Ships on Easter Sunday , some great Blokes up there . I am also looking forward to a date with an attractive Divorced Staff Nurse whom I know from School , currently I am running around the kitchen table and attempting the occasional squat thrust to get fit , the Parrot meanwhile sits in the cage looking bemused whilst the Jack Russell goes berserk in the Front Room at the Postman .
Vsix and Vtec said:
I think i'm more or less settled at the point where I'm certain to be looking at a 4.2 rather than the 5.0, there's just more examples of them in my price range (£10k to £15k with PX included) and I'm quite content with that. I'm glad to see you say that the 20" doesn't ruin the ride, I've been kind of giving those a wide birth. The only things i'm really setting in stone are that it must be a coupe, it must have wood rather than aluminium, and it must be a lighter colour (Liquid Silver is my preference, followed by Frost Blue, then maybe Radiance Red, Winter Gold or one of the many Greens) with a light interior. The XK 60 with the blue leather and American Maplewood is an option but not very common, certainly at my range. Lastly, I'm hoping to keep the mileage as low as I can realistically afford, and it looks like I'll be somewhere around the 60 -80k miles area. Obviously condition and history trump miles, especially as I'm aware the drivebelts and gearbox fluid changes are a must if I want to have a hope of it being reliable.
I have a 4.2 XKR on 20" wheels and the ride is absolutely fine IMO.If you have/had a type R then I doubt you'll have an issue with it either.
I am afraid that I too cannot talk you out of it either.
I bought my 5.0 XKR 16 months ago and it is my everyday car. It is brilliant and generally gets a positive reaction.
The ride on the 20” wheels is still better that anything else I have been in recently but fit a set of Michelin Pilot sport tyres.They improve everything dramatically over the OE Dunlops.
It is definitely a GT rather than a sports car but will make real progress if asked to. It does encourage a more Gentlemanly style of driving.
I do have a thread on here. https://www.pistonheads.com/gassing/topic.asp?h=0&...
I bought my 5.0 XKR 16 months ago and it is my everyday car. It is brilliant and generally gets a positive reaction.
The ride on the 20” wheels is still better that anything else I have been in recently but fit a set of Michelin Pilot sport tyres.They improve everything dramatically over the OE Dunlops.
It is definitely a GT rather than a sports car but will make real progress if asked to. It does encourage a more Gentlemanly style of driving.
I do have a thread on here. https://www.pistonheads.com/gassing/topic.asp?h=0&...
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