Discussion
Jim,
With the 6-cylinder engines, there is a fuel filter in the boot with the pump. I've been recommended to replace this "frequently". There's also a "swirl-pot", which my technical advisors (
) recommend I clean out from time to time. I've not looked into it, but I believe there is something mounted beside/below the tank which the fuel flows through to trap water and crud.
As I understand it, if either element isn't allowing clean flow, the pump can build pressure and the car starts fine, but the pressure is difficult to maintain, and can lead to the car spluttering or running lean.
HTH
Sheepy
With the 6-cylinder engines, there is a fuel filter in the boot with the pump. I've been recommended to replace this "frequently". There's also a "swirl-pot", which my technical advisors (
) recommend I clean out from time to time. I've not looked into it, but I believe there is something mounted beside/below the tank which the fuel flows through to trap water and crud. As I understand it, if either element isn't allowing clean flow, the pump can build pressure and the car starts fine, but the pressure is difficult to maintain, and can lead to the car spluttering or running lean.
HTH
Sheepy
Cheers chaps - however.....
My man (Martin at Jag Autos, Spellow Lane) says as this is a facelift, there is a container replacing the old swirl pot design, inside the fuel tank, not outside, which does not suffer the vagueries of the old design.
He has indeed seen crap in the filter gauze and is putting in a 2nd hand pump (from XJ40) sourced from legit supplier and a new filter.
He also (wait for it...) actually READ THE HISTORY SUPPLIED
which is a refreshing change, with out my having to feel a prat for pushing it in his face.
And, lo, he noted that other independents down the years have had FF23 and replaced the wrong bits - namely airflow meter and lambda - and the problem has reoccurred. We'll fit these bits, if ok, it's ok. If not, it's not and no loss cos he'll see the job through.
My man (Martin at Jag Autos, Spellow Lane) says as this is a facelift, there is a container replacing the old swirl pot design, inside the fuel tank, not outside, which does not suffer the vagueries of the old design.
He has indeed seen crap in the filter gauze and is putting in a 2nd hand pump (from XJ40) sourced from legit supplier and a new filter.
He also (wait for it...) actually READ THE HISTORY SUPPLIED
which is a refreshing change, with out my having to feel a prat for pushing it in his face. And, lo, he noted that other independents down the years have had FF23 and replaced the wrong bits - namely airflow meter and lambda - and the problem has reoccurred. We'll fit these bits, if ok, it's ok. If not, it's not and no loss cos he'll see the job through.
Well,Bob.... as next door's alarm woke me from slumber
Great to meet your man Steve on saturdayas we called to show him the acquisition the day after I shelled £250 to local guy for a second hand fuel pump, which failed to remove FF23 from the trip, and en route had 'check engine' warning light on. Thought we'd send car in at some point for a check over or as a trade up for another.
The next day, 30 miles away, a blast of white steam under (sharpish) acceleration emanated from the rear of the car. Almost instantly followed by darker matter from my own... Twas, reassuringly as it happens, not head gasket, but a ripped heater hose under the intake manifold - I replaced it myself the next day; £19. Noticed dizzy was loose at securing bolt. Tightened in position which seemed to correlate with circular debris and it ticked over ok.
I spoke with DMarks, who serviced it before in Notts, and as the Mrs was going to see folks thereabouts, and he had the recon rad it needed, I asked if he would kindly check out the timing while he did it... thought £300 more inc rad may be worth it. Off she goes, keeping car to max 3000 and a bit rpm, just incase.
27 mpg on the trip, ran like a dream, I was told.
Got a call yesterday morning to say timing was a tad out, throttle body had been fouled up, tickover still erratic. After discussion he agreed to check valve timing, £400 bill expected at that point.
7 hrs labour plus a second hand potentiometer and what appears to have been much struggle later, it looks like it's £600. PLUS VAT £715!!!
My girl gets home, to inform me it cut out 4 miles out of Notts for the first time, then as M6 was chocker, up to 10 times more, 21mpg, and a new FF44 has appeared...
Left message on the man's mobile and will talk later.
Took for a spin last night. Runs smoothe as anything, flies along swiftly, but exhaust sounds like it's blowing now; smell of petrol which was always there has gone from cabin now unless under acceleration when it returns with a vengeance; and a clunking from the rear.
Top dollar paid + £965 extra in a week. And I was getting to like it, thinkin let's keep it... but am watching Mrs J for signs of striking matches and she's got me on suicide watch again. She says we should spend more money and "get a nice car". I say I dont want "nice", I want interesting, powerful AND reliable.
Hope this finds you well, Bob. And thanks for asking.
Great to meet your man Steve on saturdayas we called to show him the acquisition the day after I shelled £250 to local guy for a second hand fuel pump, which failed to remove FF23 from the trip, and en route had 'check engine' warning light on. Thought we'd send car in at some point for a check over or as a trade up for another.
The next day, 30 miles away, a blast of white steam under (sharpish) acceleration emanated from the rear of the car. Almost instantly followed by darker matter from my own... Twas, reassuringly as it happens, not head gasket, but a ripped heater hose under the intake manifold - I replaced it myself the next day; £19. Noticed dizzy was loose at securing bolt. Tightened in position which seemed to correlate with circular debris and it ticked over ok.
I spoke with DMarks, who serviced it before in Notts, and as the Mrs was going to see folks thereabouts, and he had the recon rad it needed, I asked if he would kindly check out the timing while he did it... thought £300 more inc rad may be worth it. Off she goes, keeping car to max 3000 and a bit rpm, just incase.
27 mpg on the trip, ran like a dream, I was told.
Got a call yesterday morning to say timing was a tad out, throttle body had been fouled up, tickover still erratic. After discussion he agreed to check valve timing, £400 bill expected at that point.
7 hrs labour plus a second hand potentiometer and what appears to have been much struggle later, it looks like it's £600. PLUS VAT £715!!!
My girl gets home, to inform me it cut out 4 miles out of Notts for the first time, then as M6 was chocker, up to 10 times more, 21mpg, and a new FF44 has appeared...
Left message on the man's mobile and will talk later.
Took for a spin last night. Runs smoothe as anything, flies along swiftly, but exhaust sounds like it's blowing now; smell of petrol which was always there has gone from cabin now unless under acceleration when it returns with a vengeance; and a clunking from the rear.
Top dollar paid + £965 extra in a week. And I was getting to like it, thinkin let's keep it... but am watching Mrs J for signs of striking matches and she's got me on suicide watch again. She says we should spend more money and "get a nice car". I say I dont want "nice", I want interesting, powerful AND reliable.
Hope this finds you well, Bob. And thanks for asking.
be 
arsed 
anymore 
goes on. Now then,
When the computer says the car is in need of an expensive part + main dealer or independent rates ( of over £50 per hour, inc v.a.t.)...REMEMBER that it is designed to sell parts cos it's put in by the car makers!! So,
DONT FORGET THE WIGGLE TEST
Many thanks to Steve Haywood , True Guru of the Cat, in Rochdale 01706 719111 who gave unpaid time to advise, inspire and reassure
and
Bob Karwowski, Fixer of Felines, Birkdale nr Southport 01704 543630
XJS back on blob. Steve looking for an XJRS-V12
for me ( He's relentless, isnt he, Bob F ?!)
Meantime, may have just enough funds left for Vera's mot and basic service - but the Street Sleeper tune up will have to
... wait.
PS £44.80 pence all in, by the way; one hour's work. Wiring harness over top of engine was wobbling about. A clip, a few cable ties, some insulating tape and a bit of nouse and it's sorted... Ta, Bob k
Just like TVRs these things when it comes down to it, aint they?!!
>> Edited by jim meehan on Saturday 31st July 22:49
>> Edited by jim meehan on Saturday 31st July 22:51
When the computer says the car is in need of an expensive part + main dealer or independent rates ( of over £50 per hour, inc v.a.t.)...REMEMBER that it is designed to sell parts cos it's put in by the car makers!! So,
DONT FORGET THE WIGGLE TEST
Many thanks to Steve Haywood , True Guru of the Cat, in Rochdale 01706 719111 who gave unpaid time to advise, inspire and reassure
and
Bob Karwowski, Fixer of Felines, Birkdale nr Southport 01704 543630
XJS back on blob. Steve looking for an XJRS-V12
for me ( He's relentless, isnt he, Bob F ?!) Meantime, may have just enough funds left for Vera's mot and basic service - but the Street Sleeper tune up will have to
... wait. PS £44.80 pence all in, by the way; one hour's work. Wiring harness over top of engine was wobbling about. A clip, a few cable ties, some insulating tape and a bit of nouse and it's sorted... Ta, Bob k
Just like TVRs these things when it comes down to it, aint they?!!
>> Edited by jim meehan on Saturday 31st July 22:49
>> Edited by jim meehan on Saturday 31st July 22:51
Great news Jim. 
I new it had to come good eventually!
I'll keep my fingers crossed for you, as I know it take a while for your faith to be restored in a car after you've been buggered about so much.
>> Edited by bobfrance on Sunday 1st August 10:43
>> Edited by bobfrance on Sunday 1st August 17:17
I new it had to come good eventually!
I'll keep my fingers crossed for you, as I know it take a while for your faith to be restored in a car after you've been buggered about so much.
>> Edited by bobfrance on Sunday 1st August 10:43
>> Edited by bobfrance on Sunday 1st August 17:17
shadowfax said:
bought july £4400
work done since £1100
refund from kindhearted seller £200
sold oct £3100
30th anniversary price increase 5-10% next year
my poor timing on-costs £ 2200!!
I can better that.
Bought mine in september 2001 £4750
Repair / servicing £2500
Sold following auguest £3500
Distance covered in between? 1500 miles.
Never again
lanciachris said:
Bah. I wouldnt trust surrey jag centre to look at an xjs let alone touch one. As for rusty type things, Hoping you dont mean the inner wings, as that is without a doubt a seriously expensive piece of work to get done right.
Believe me - when you find yourself dealing with a REAL
like I have, then you'd kill to go back there. I very nearly did!
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