Jag X350 untraceable coolant leak
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Risonax said:
After a few weeks, a replacement part was located. However, now it is replaced, along with a new expansion tank (a precautionary replacement), the heater no longer works. The garage said they had issues bleeding it. But it holds dead middle of the temperature gauge. I tried bleeding the system (set heater to max, engine running, loosen bleed screw). It was bled. Made no difference to the heat. Suggestions I have are either the heater matrix (£240 plus 4 hours labour) or "bosch pump" which I assume is the auxillary water pump, which is £350 and probably 4 hours labour. How to diagnose, and who is a good Jag specialist in the Milton Keynes area? I see a few listed.
What Garage did you take this car to ? You should have taken it to the Specialist on Tanners Drive EE . Incredibly for some reason I haven't come across you on my travels in MK , the car looks absolutely amazing especially with the Black GrillSE Spec will account for the Sat Nav , by no means the Worlds finest but in Jaguars defence it was very early days in its development . As regards the rest of the Spec pretty much anything was available when ordering new assuming of course they weren't changed by a subsequent Owner .
Lovely in the Silver with the Custom Alloys , your car I think is really something special .
Edited by reddiesel on Tuesday 31st October 18:13
Risonax said:
According to:
https://www.jag-lovers.org/brochures/2004_xj8_pric...
The SE was only 3.0 or 4.2. Mine is a 2004 3.5. The spec matches what is called there "Sport premium". The R-seats were never available on the SE, only the Comfort seats. Sat Nav was optional for both SE and Sport/Sport Premium. The front cupholders are missing on mine, but strangely, on the Sport, they were a no cost option....
It was registered in late April 2004, and the brochure is dated May 2004. I wonder if mine was a demonstrator.
The SE was also available in the 3.5 V8 and I owned one in Pacific Blue purchased from the late RE Cremer in Kensington . My Car was a 2003 Model .https://www.jag-lovers.org/brochures/2004_xj8_pric...
The SE was only 3.0 or 4.2. Mine is a 2004 3.5. The spec matches what is called there "Sport premium". The R-seats were never available on the SE, only the Comfort seats. Sat Nav was optional for both SE and Sport/Sport Premium. The front cupholders are missing on mine, but strangely, on the Sport, they were a no cost option....
It was registered in late April 2004, and the brochure is dated May 2004. I wonder if mine was a demonstrator.
Obviously I am aware of the Specs but in my humble experience any amount of deviation is pretty commonplace .
Edited by reddiesel on Tuesday 31st October 20:49
There is actually a piss yellow 53 plate 3.5 SE on BCA now.
My 2004 MY brochure shows the SE as 3.0 and 4.2 only I think, I have a 2003MY brochure somewhere so if I can find it I'll check.
I found the 3.5 a bit disappointing, in reality it was much further off the 4.2 than in looked on paper. Well oversquare engine that needed revs, not the best setup for a barge. Sounded great though.
My 2004 MY brochure shows the SE as 3.0 and 4.2 only I think, I have a 2003MY brochure somewhere so if I can find it I'll check.
I found the 3.5 a bit disappointing, in reality it was much further off the 4.2 than in looked on paper. Well oversquare engine that needed revs, not the best setup for a barge. Sounded great though.
I think the 3,5 V8 in SE spec was dropped pretty early on but that said , I found very little difference if any between that and the 4.2 I owned afterwards . Neither were a car that you would buy for rapid acceleration . Perhaps the real discussion point for the V8 3.5 is with the V6 3.0
I always wondered what the attraction in the V6 was ? A fine car though it was .
I always wondered what the attraction in the V6 was ? A fine car though it was .
reddiesel said:
I think the 3,5 V8 in SE spec was dropped pretty early on but that said , I found very little difference if any between that and the 4.2 I owned afterwards . Neither were a car that you would buy for rapid acceleration . Perhaps the real discussion point for the V8 3.5 is with the V6 3.0
I always wondered what the attraction in the V6 was ? A fine car though it was .
The V6 was very good value in 2003, even the base spec car had everything you needed in it and unlike a lot of base models (Mercedes, I'm looking at you) it wasn't horribly decontented with plastic seats and switch blanks everywhere.I always wondered what the attraction in the V6 was ? A fine car though it was .
I had one earlier this year and the performance was very adequate up to 90MPH, it sounded nice, and it seemed to be able to get 25% better fuel economy than my 4.2. I liked it a lot more than I expected, it was a fairly chunky price uplift to the 3.5 when they were new and I'd probably not have bothered (I'd have saved up for a 4.2!).
Patrick Bateman said:
Regarding V6 vs. 3.5 V8, I'd flip it.
If you want a V8 you'd go 4.2, no point in having the V8 running costs with hardly any more performance than the V6.
Assuming purchase price isn't the one thing constraining you. Surely nowadays that's not much of a factor.
Agreed about 3.0 vs 3.5 vs 4.2 all else being equal. There do seem to be a lot of 3.5 litre cars around though.If you want a V8 you'd go 4.2, no point in having the V8 running costs with hardly any more performance than the V6.
Assuming purchase price isn't the one thing constraining you. Surely nowadays that's not much of a factor.
The 4.2 does seem to command something of a premium, but unless you're a "please bend me over Mr Specialist, of course I'll pay £12,000 for a 20 year old Jaguar" buyer we're talking £2,500 vs £3,500 so it's pretty small beans. One advantage of the 3.0 is that it lacks the electric heater circuit pump, and anecdotally seems to avoid sludging up the heater matrix like the V8 cars do.
They all make lovely smokers though
Risonax said:
And most 4.2s are Sovereign trim, which I don't like (Clarkson's reference to the grill is correct). A lot of the 3.5s are Sport or whatever you want to call it, with nicer seats, without that wooden steering wheel, and more likely to be grey maple trim.
But as they are all old and fairly unreliable, you'd buy based on condition rather than trim.
Latest fault is the driver's door window has gone on strike for the next 3 months again, after a £500 switch pack replacement. I'd expect it will start working again in 3 months. These aren't over engineered cars.
I don't know about over engineered but when new they were certainly revolutionary . The Drivers Door Mirror is more likely to be simply gummed up with the usual decaying vegetation and dirt that 20 years of running is guaranteed to bring and in all cars not just Jaguars . I suspect you have been mugged off by a £500 switch pack as its clearly not the issue . A quick search of any Jaguar Forum will confirm what I am saying , its a relatively common problem and an easy fix which I have done on a couple of my X350 Jaguars over the years . But as they are all old and fairly unreliable, you'd buy based on condition rather than trim.
Latest fault is the driver's door window has gone on strike for the next 3 months again, after a £500 switch pack replacement. I'd expect it will start working again in 3 months. These aren't over engineered cars.
I don't know nor care what Clarkson said , his is an opinion nothing more though sadly People repeat it ad infinitum in order to imply some knowledge they don't necessarily have . Maple Trim personally I cant stand nor the word Sport attached to any X350 . There is only one Sporting Model and that's the XJR anything else is just shrewd marketing by JLR in order to shift a few more units . Like buying a 2.0 F Type People fell for it and if that's what they want or the limit to what they can afford then fair play and I sincerely hope they are happy with their purchase . Just as the 2.0 F type won't go down the road like a V8 R no Sport X350 will go down the road like the X350 XJR .
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