RE: Jag XK ragtop emerges
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los angeles said:
Blimey - I think I've just been patronised. ... Danny. Shouldn't Jaguar be innovating?
Fisker fine-tuned the DB9 and designed the V8 Vantage. Coincidentally, he too got a lot of stick for Fisker Coachbuild's first attempt looking exactly like an ... Aston Martin. Seems both designers are locked into a variation of the same theme when it comes to sexy GT's with a rear hatch, partly because of customer expectations, partly because of safety regs.
I suggest the V8 and the Jaguar are aimed at completely different markets, yet at folk with similar ideas of what constitutes a good GT design. Anyhow, I have a feeling he is keeping his most radical design for the S-Type replacement.
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Thanks, LA. I appreciate the support, but I know all of this stuff and stick with my opinions. 'Never compared the XK with the V8. I hope you're right about the replacement S Type, but I'm not holding my breath. Rgds, Vince
>> Edited by los angeles on Friday 13th January 22:33
>> Edited by vinceh on Sunday 15th January 00:28
>> Edited by vinceh on Sunday 15th January 00:29
Love this car. Absolutely beautiful. The interior looks like it could be fantastic too - given the right materials to give it the right tactility.
Mind you I loved the old one too. This one has tidied up the roof - which, whilst not bad, needed doing. No car should need a tonneau to keep the roof clean in this day and age.
Maybe one day when I've worked through my Porsche fixation and no longer need a trackable sports car I could work my way over to a GT, which would have to be convertible, and that day - I think this car would fit the bill very, very nicely indeed.
Mind you I loved the old one too. This one has tidied up the roof - which, whilst not bad, needed doing. No car should need a tonneau to keep the roof clean in this day and age.
Maybe one day when I've worked through my Porsche fixation and no longer need a trackable sports car I could work my way over to a GT, which would have to be convertible, and that day - I think this car would fit the bill very, very nicely indeed.
Jaguar are trying to move from the traditional image to a new modern one and so it is probably not surprising that this design has caused quite a few negative comments but I think the when the other models are produced the XK will look more acceptable. Design is catching up with technology finally. In a few years the range will be very strong in image and look as well as just technology.
I agree that the wood is pretty awful and seems at odds with the modern style. Also the new XK looks quite bland for a large coupe/cabriolet but one step at a time....
I agree that the wood is pretty awful and seems at odds with the modern style. Also the new XK looks quite bland for a large coupe/cabriolet but one step at a time....
eddy_hyde said:
Lets try it this way
a) its only real competitor
b) more expensive (with options)
c) slower
d) heavier
e) less economic
f) has those damn run flat tyres
g) 'original' in it 'ugliness'
>> Edited by eddy_hyde on Sunday 15th January 23:01
agree with your points except b) and c)
Similarly specced the BMW is about £6000 cheaper before a discount which you can get on the BMW and the BMW is significantly faster. I'm hope I havent taken your post the wrong way round.
I've been in one of these. It is better in the metal than pictures.
The ride is really good, the interior feels a special place to be. Less so in the aluminum trim than the wood (I really like the light colour wood!)
The lights are really clever, esp where the xenons follow the steering. On tight turns there's a separate halagon which illuminates sideways. One funny thing, there are small orange 'markers' at the front which are on all the time with the lights - maybe a US market spec part.
Car looks good, but sounds even better! The electric hood is fast and neat.
The ride is really good, the interior feels a special place to be. Less so in the aluminum trim than the wood (I really like the light colour wood!)
The lights are really clever, esp where the xenons follow the steering. On tight turns there's a separate halagon which illuminates sideways. One funny thing, there are small orange 'markers' at the front which are on all the time with the lights - maybe a US market spec part.
Car looks good, but sounds even better! The electric hood is fast and neat.
The car looks stunning in the skin and has immense prescence. The exterior and interior detailing is superb and it is light years ahead of the previous XK8 and makes the old car look like an antique. It is a good example of the leap forward that Jag should have made with the XJ saloon which is regretably an opportunity squandered.
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Along the subject of the interior - I don't think that the blue dash top in the pictures helps. If you mess around with the virtual interior thingummy on the 'new xk' website, you can get some very pretty results.
And for what it's worth, Aston also offer a very light shaded wood - bamboo. Not as fine looking as the poplar, in my opinion.
And for what it's worth, Aston also offer a very light shaded wood - bamboo. Not as fine looking as the poplar, in my opinion.
DannyT said:
Spend time looking into the facts rather than reacting on impulse and you will realise that there are three interior trim options - brushed aluminum, burr walnut, and the pale wood trim that appears to have caused some controversy.
I'm probably a bit late replying to this, but as the first person on this thread that criticised the interior, I should reply by saying that it's not just the colour of the wood that makes the interior look poor but the lack of a dashboard. Jags have always had a plethora of guages ringed in chrome. Where are they? The wood looks poor, but any material in its place would look poor because it's so patchy. Jag interiors have always looked nicer than their counterparts due to the vast expanses of timber but this is taking styling cues from a Toyota Avensis or the like. They must be able to do better than this. In a Jag I want huge amounts of wood and loads of chrome rimmed guages. This has too much American or Japanese influence and not enough Britishness. Quite the same as a Vanquish - plastic and the odd bit of aluminium. The DB9 is nearer the mark of a British sports car but still not ideal. The XK8 in my opinion was excellent.
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>> Edited by jesprit on Saturday 28th January 07:33
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