The S5 lease thread

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simonbamg

767 posts

125 months

Tuesday 27th June 2017
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New wheels incoming... got the 21” 5-twin-spoke V’ design contrasting grey, diamond cut alloys from the new SQ5 going on my black SB, pics to follow.....

Leo-RS

288 posts

159 months

Tuesday 27th June 2017
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simonwhite2000 said:
Well my speeding ticket letter came today so no way to contest based on the 14 day rule.
What is strange though is I have been given 3 points and 100 fine for 46 in a 30. The only thing I can think of is that the back office is not yet set up to issue penalties under the new rules. So at least it's not 4-6 points and a weeks wage. It felt strange to be happy with opening the letter!
No, it's because nothing has changed and this is all unnecessary scaremongering in the press.

The new rules are not new rules, they are guidelines and they are only relevant should the speed you are caught at take the person to court.

46mph in a 30mph will not see you going to court so you will always be handed the £100 fine and 3 points.

Please, everyone read this and put this farcical myth to bed...

https://www.bennetts.co.uk/bikesocial/news-and-vie...

Edit, the link doesn't appear to be working but if you google "New Speeding fines explained bennetts.co.uk" you will see the article.

Edited by Leo-RS on Tuesday 27th June 10:02

simonwhite2000

2,481 posts

99 months

Tuesday 27th June 2017
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simonbamg said:
New wheels incoming... got the 21” 5-twin-spoke V’ design contrasting grey, diamond cut alloys from the new SQ5 going on my black SB, pics to follow.....
Sounds awesome - where did you source the wheels if you dont mind me asking?

simonwhite2000

2,481 posts

99 months

Tuesday 27th June 2017
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Leo-RS said:
simonwhite2000 said:
Well my speeding ticket letter came today so no way to contest based on the 14 day rule.
What is strange though is I have been given 3 points and 100 fine for 46 in a 30. The only thing I can think of is that the back office is not yet set up to issue penalties under the new rules. So at least it's not 4-6 points and a weeks wage. It felt strange to be happy with opening the letter!
No, it's because nothing has changed and this is all unnecessary scaremongering in the press.

The new rules are not new rules, they are guidelines and they are only relevant should the speed you are caught at take the person to court.

46mph in a 30mph will not see you going to court so you will always be handed the £100 fine and 3 points.

Please, everyone read this and put this farcical myth to bed...

https://www.bennetts.co.uk/bikesocial/news-and-vie...

Edit, the link doesn't appear to be working but if you google "New Speeding fines explained bennetts.co.uk" you will see the article.

Edited by Leo-RS on Tuesday 27th June 10:02
I can only go off what I have read Leo - like you said alot of crappy info out there. People asked me to share the outcome and it was different to what I expected. Simple.

IJB1959

2,140 posts

88 months

Tuesday 27th June 2017
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simonbamg said:
New wheels incoming... got the 21” 5-twin-spoke V’ design contrasting grey, diamond cut alloys from the new SQ5 going on my black SB, pics to follow.....
Ooooh, would like to see those! I have considered 20" but have been advised the ride is very bumpy, so god knows what 21" are like. Please do some feedback on them as well.

IJB1959

2,140 posts

88 months

Tuesday 27th June 2017
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simonwhite2000 said:
Leo-RS said:
simonwhite2000 said:
Well my speeding ticket letter came today so no way to contest based on the 14 day rule.
What is strange though is I have been given 3 points and 100 fine for 46 in a 30. The only thing I can think of is that the back office is not yet set up to issue penalties under the new rules. So at least it's not 4-6 points and a weeks wage. It felt strange to be happy with opening the letter!
No, it's because nothing has changed and this is all unnecessary scaremongering in the press.

The new rules are not new rules, they are guidelines and they are only relevant should the speed you are caught at take the person to court.

46mph in a 30mph will not see you going to court so you will always be handed the £100 fine and 3 points.

Please, everyone read this and put this farcical myth to bed...

https://www.bennetts.co.uk/bikesocial/news-and-vie...

Edit, the link doesn't appear to be working but if you google "New Speeding fines explained bennetts.co.uk" you will see the article.

Edited by Leo-RS on Tuesday 27th June 10:02
Yes we are all clear on this now, thanks.

silentbrown

8,903 posts

118 months

Tuesday 27th June 2017
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IJB1959 said:
Ooooh, would like to see those! I have considered 20" but have been advised the ride is very bumpy, so god knows what 21" are like. Please do some feedback on them as well.
What size tyres? 25 profile at a guess?

mackie1

8,153 posts

235 months

Wednesday 28th June 2017
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The SQ5 has 255/40R21 tyres but I'd have thought the rolling radius of those would be too much for the A5. The speedo error would be -17.26%

IJB1959

2,140 posts

88 months

Wednesday 28th June 2017
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mackie1 said:
The SQ5 has 255/40R21 tyres but I'd have thought the rolling radius of those would be too much for the A5. The speedo error would be -17.26%
Good point. For example then If you need to be doing 30, the speedo will need to read 35...very confusing.

Fourmotion

1,026 posts

222 months

Wednesday 28th June 2017
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IJB1959 said:
Good point. For example then If you need to be doing 30, the speedo will need to read 35...very confusing.
I think it's worse, you'll be doing 35 when the needle reads 30

silentbrown

8,903 posts

118 months

Wednesday 28th June 2017
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Fourmotion said:
IJB1959 said:
Good point. For example then If you need to be doing 30, the speedo will need to read 35...very confusing.
I think it's worse, you'll be doing 35 when the needle reads 30
..and the final gearing change would change the feel of the car quite dramatically, (it will take longer to hit redline in each gear, but you'll be going faster when you do) - and there's a significant risk of tyres fouling bodywork and suspension. Because of this you'll need to keep the change in overall diameter to within a couple of percent, which means a much lower tyre profile - probably a bone-jarring 25 in this case.

IJB1959

2,140 posts

88 months

Wednesday 28th June 2017
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silentbrown said:
..and the final gearing change would change the feel of the car quite dramatically, (it will take longer to hit redline in each gear, but you'll be going faster when you do) - and there's a significant risk of tyres fouling bodywork and suspension. Because of this you'll need to keep the change in overall diameter to within a couple of percent, which means a much lower tyre profile - probably a bone-jarring 25 in this case.
All sounds a bit pointless then for that extra 2". 25 profile tyres would be absolutely awful on our potholed and uneven roads even in comfort mode and in dynamic mode you'll need a back brace, on top of all the annoying interior rattling going on. The only upside being they would look good.

silentbrown

8,903 posts

118 months

Wednesday 28th June 2017
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mackie1 said:
The SQ5 has 255/40R21 tyres but I'd have thought the rolling radius of those would be too much for the A5. The speedo error would be -17.26%
Closer to 12%, surely?

255/30/21" is probably the only realistic tyre choice, which gives about 4% change in gearing/speedo. 25 profile doesn't seem to be available in that size.

With 30 profile you've still got about 25mm extra diameter to worry about, so bodywork fouling needs a careful check, particularly as the SQ5 wheels probably have a different offset as well.

TomScrut

2,547 posts

90 months

Thursday 29th June 2017
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silentbrown said:
Closer to 12%, surely?

255/30/21" is probably the only realistic tyre choice, which gives about 4% change in gearing/speedo. 25 profile doesn't seem to be available in that size.

With 30 profile you've still got about 25mm extra diameter to worry about, so bodywork fouling needs a careful check, particularly as the SQ5 wheels probably have a different offset as well.
Yeah I have it at 11.5%!

IJB1959

2,140 posts

88 months

Thursday 29th June 2017
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TomScrut said:
Yeah I have it at 11.5%!
That's still a way out. Maybe you could get the ECU calibrated for the new wheel size though?....If so, it just leaves the bone shaking ride which you can do nothing about.

TomScrut

2,547 posts

90 months

Friday 30th June 2017
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IJB1959 said:
That's still a way out. Maybe you could get the ECU calibrated for the new wheel size though?....If so, it just leaves the bone shaking ride which you can do nothing about.
Not disputing that, I wouldn't be doing it. Its just 17 odd percent isn't correct.

I personally think the car would look daft on bigger wheels, the 19s look like they fit nicely. But I preferred the 18s on my Golf to the 19s so maybe I am unusual!

silentbrown

8,903 posts

118 months

Friday 30th June 2017
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IJB1959 said:
That's still a way out. Maybe you could get the ECU calibrated for the new wheel size though?....If so, it just leaves the bone shaking ride which you can do nothing about.
To be fair, the 11.5% figure is based on using the stock SQ5 tyres, which are 40 profile to start with, rather than the S5's usual 35.

35 profile would take it down to about 8%, 30 profile to around 4%. Either way you're looking at around £250 a corner for tyres frown


TomScrut

2,547 posts

90 months

Friday 30th June 2017
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silentbrown said:
IJB1959 said:
That's still a way out. Maybe you could get the ECU calibrated for the new wheel size though?....If so, it just leaves the bone shaking ride which you can do nothing about.
To be fair, the 11.5% figure is based on using the stock SQ5 tyres, which are 40 profile to start with, rather than the S5's usual 35.

35 profile would take it down to about 8%, 30 profile to around 4%. Either way you're looking at around £250 a corner for tyres frown
I think that profile will look naff anyway, I dont like the BMWs you see with the 30 profile on the 19s, just looks too thin for me.

HJMS123

988 posts

135 months

Friday 30th June 2017
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Just thought I'd chime in to say I saw a S5 SB in grey today and thought it looked really smart! lick

IJB1959

2,140 posts

88 months

Saturday 1st July 2017
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TomScrut said:
I think that profile will look naff anyway, I dont like the BMWs you see with the 30 profile on the 19s, just looks too thin for me.
Since the start of this wheels discussion, simonbamg has not commented back at all. Hope we have not upset him with all the negativity.