Golf 1.4 TSI 150 GT DSG
Discussion
You'll note it was me who started this thread, so 18k miles & 10 months in I'm getting 44mpg - tracked on a spreadsheet using full to full tanks, the OBC over reads 1-2mpg each and every tank. Very occasionally I'll get 50+, but generally it's mid to high 40's on the OBC.
For smoothness & performance it's great. I forget how much I love being back in a petrol until a diesel starts up near me! Take into consideration that you will be visiting the petrol station more often, but that's a price well worth paying in my book. Sometimes I can get 500+ out of a tank. Also when I got it petrol was 4-6ppl cheaper than diesel!
Downsides, throttle response is appalling, not sure if it's the throttle possibly due to turbo lag or the DSG, it's being serviced this week so am hoping they might have some ideas!
For smoothness & performance it's great. I forget how much I love being back in a petrol until a diesel starts up near me! Take into consideration that you will be visiting the petrol station more often, but that's a price well worth paying in my book. Sometimes I can get 500+ out of a tank. Also when I got it petrol was 4-6ppl cheaper than diesel!
Downsides, throttle response is appalling, not sure if it's the throttle possibly due to turbo lag or the DSG, it's being serviced this week so am hoping they might have some ideas!
va1o said:
I suspect its the gearbox, the manual 1.4 TSI 140 I test drove had significantly better throttle response than my Golf GTD DSG does
I think you're probably right. Often when going round certain roundabouts I'll drop it into manual and maintain say fourth, and it's better. I guess having access to other naturally aspirated 6 cylinder cars does make me compare them, even if I know I shouldn't!Re DSG, it's a personal thing, but if I was doing less miles I'd go manual, I think this engine with a manual gearbox would be superb. But that's a personal thing, and the DSG just about justifies itself with my mileage.
JB052 said:
Slightly off topic, but your views are appreciated.
Unlike the 'Match' the 1.4 TSI 150PS that I looked at today was really nice but had a piano black finish to the dash and centre console.
Does this scratch or mark easily?
It's not easy to keep clean, it shows every finger print etc, I think the key is if you clean it don't use a cloth you'd use on anything else that could pick up something which could scratch it, say in the same way when you polish a car you use cloths specifically for it. Unlike the 'Match' the 1.4 TSI 150PS that I looked at today was really nice but had a piano black finish to the dash and centre console.
Does this scratch or mark easily?
That said I really like the finish & think it lifts the interior and makes the GT spec stand out.
I too had a 1.6 diesel before (A3) and the difference is night & day! As you've already picked up the hesitation at low speeds, say pulling onto a roundabout is appalling!
Based on my figures it should get considerably better, I'm now averaging 47, but I do a lot of motorway driving and the commute is good for my economy too.
Re the mute button, on the right hand side there's a voice activation button which always comes up I don't have voice activation (!), but it does mute the radio.
It does seem there's some differing figures out there, but my GT is showing as 110g/km on the DVLA, so that's the one I use for BiK etc. One of the reasons for choosing this was that unlike the diesels DSG reduces emissions, not increases it.
Based on my figures it should get considerably better, I'm now averaging 47, but I do a lot of motorway driving and the commute is good for my economy too.
Re the mute button, on the right hand side there's a voice activation button which always comes up I don't have voice activation (!), but it does mute the radio.
It does seem there's some differing figures out there, but my GT is showing as 110g/km on the DVLA, so that's the one I use for BiK etc. One of the reasons for choosing this was that unlike the diesels DSG reduces emissions, not increases it.
I do seem to remember when I was looking there was a difference on the VW site vs road tests when it came out.
If you have a fuel card who cares!
When I first got it the combination of DSG & ACC was quite something, but surprisingly you do quite quickly get use to it.
I don't have that, not sure if it's something on a R line only or on the latest GT's too.
If you have a fuel card who cares!
When I first got it the combination of DSG & ACC was quite something, but surprisingly you do quite quickly get use to it.
I don't have that, not sure if it's something on a R line only or on the latest GT's too.
benbird7 said:
Hi I am getting around 400-450 out of a tank, nearly done 2000 miles in it now. I have noticed that when you drop the DSG lever down and put it in S mode that it revs too high on the engine (I know it is to maximise performance) but I prefer manually selecting gears when overtaking, theres still a fair bit of grunt lower in the rev range without getting the engine to scream.
Without overtaking I am getting from 45-52 miles to the gallon, if I am foot heavy then it drops do the 30-40 mark. Generally a combined average would work out at about 40-45 mpg which isn't too bad, the old 1.6 diesel mk 7 I had would get around 60-65 and could achieve nearly 600 on a tank :O. That didn't have the poke needed for overtaking really though. I haven't had a run longer than a hundred miles yet though.
Also I have noticed that on MP3 playback it is a little annoying when the songs finish early, has anyone managed to carry out a firmware update on their car or is this something only a VW dealer should do?
My MPG has dramatically improved, but I'd say it took 10k+ miles, from 44 to 47 average now at 25k miles, but the combination of my commute, work miles & the way I drive mean I get good MPG. Yesterday on a 90 mile each way route I got 47 one way & 53 back (round the M25), the morning one was due to traffic. I usually sit at 70-75 with ACC on. On 100+ miles journeys I'm always in the high 40's & it's not that rare with a few average speed camera sections to see 50+.Without overtaking I am getting from 45-52 miles to the gallon, if I am foot heavy then it drops do the 30-40 mark. Generally a combined average would work out at about 40-45 mpg which isn't too bad, the old 1.6 diesel mk 7 I had would get around 60-65 and could achieve nearly 600 on a tank :O. That didn't have the poke needed for overtaking really though. I haven't had a run longer than a hundred miles yet though.
Also I have noticed that on MP3 playback it is a little annoying when the songs finish early, has anyone managed to carry out a firmware update on their car or is this something only a VW dealer should do?
My old 1.6TDI A3 got low 50's on a tank, but there's simply no comparison, the Golf's like silk as compared to gravel! Yes, if you're heavy footed you can get much lower MPG, but I like that you can drive it sensibly, but when you want to a spirited drive is to be had.
JackReacher said:
Our Leon has now done 47k miles and no issues other than a leaking radiator which was replaced quickly without any hassle. Average is late 40's mpg. The engine and car itself are great, although a couple of issues have come up recently which are getting looked at soon, a rattle in the instrument cluster and a cracked rear light, which is weird as it hasn't been hit, more of an internal crack.
Jack, same here just about to turn 47k. My only real issue has been the rubbish throttle response which I bought up on the last service and again on the one last year, as ever with main stealers they simply fobbed me off.......I record my MPG brim to brim on a spreadsheet, overall 45mpg.
Of most interest is the comparison I had with a non ACT 1.4 Golf which I had for three weeks or so last year, which I found very interesting. Firstly it was 10-15% more efficient, and this was despite it being a hire car and therefore often driven as one whilst I had it. Same type of journeys and commute and yet it consistently returned that 10-15% more. You won't be surprised to hear it has 120g/km, mine 110g/km with DSG, and so should be less efficient....
It seemed as quick as mine (122ps vs 148) but was significantly less tied down with lots more body role, inevitable given the ACT comes in GT spec only with lowered body/17's etc. What was most interesting was getting mine back, the engine is SO much smoother, the interior a lot better and the overall driving experience far more pleasant, worth it even if it's less efficient, bluemotion efficiency my a**e!!!
At last someone else seems to agree the engine/DSG combo is an issue!
"Most frustrating is the time it takes to react at roundabouts and junctions...."
http://www.autoexpress.co.uk/seat/ateca/99539/seat...
"Most frustrating is the time it takes to react at roundabouts and junctions...."
http://www.autoexpress.co.uk/seat/ateca/99539/seat...
I’d forgotten all about this thread! As the OP my old company one which I had for 4.5 years & 86k miles was superb, so competent it was a bit dull but as a daily it was great.
If I was in the market for one I’d happily get another.
If you look at a 64 plate dark blue one with the light shetland interior (a rare combo) let me know, could be my old one!
If I was in the market for one I’d happily get another.
If you look at a 64 plate dark blue one with the light shetland interior (a rare combo) let me know, could be my old one!
For what I used it for it was superb, I recorded 46mpg over those 86k miles. You’d think that tiny engine would be a bit rubbish for long journeys but I frequently did 100-300 miles for work in a day, it was like a sewing machine.
Makes my daily Fiesta ST seem like what it is, far more engaging but often a pain as simply a car!
Makes my daily Fiesta ST seem like what it is, far more engaging but often a pain as simply a car!
If that’s what you want it for & that’s the mindset you go into it with it’s superb.
Part of my old commute was across some great B roads & it was surprisingly enjoyable, that light MQB chassis kept the kerb weight light, as did the tiny engine over the nose, it could be hustled when needed.
I’d then got onto the next 15 miles on dual carriageway and fast A roads stick on the adaptive cruise & relax.
I think I must’ve done circa 40k on cruise, it wasn’t perfect but made those long work days into the midlands & north much easier.
Part of my old commute was across some great B roads & it was surprisingly enjoyable, that light MQB chassis kept the kerb weight light, as did the tiny engine over the nose, it could be hustled when needed.
I’d then got onto the next 15 miles on dual carriageway and fast A roads stick on the adaptive cruise & relax.
I think I must’ve done circa 40k on cruise, it wasn’t perfect but made those long work days into the midlands & north much easier.
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